Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

Syferus

26th of April against Cavan.

2thousand14

Is it a double header?

RoscommonTom

2thousand14 wrote: »

Is it a double header?

Its with the division 4 I heard, dont know who that is maybe tipp or someone

Strongbow10

Westmeath and Garrycastle's Paddy Mulvihill has transferred to former all ireland champions St Brigids of Kiltoom by all accounts, heard it off one of the locals today

manofwisdom

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Westmeath and Garrycastle's Paddy Mulvihill has transferred to former all ireland champions St Brigids of Kiltoom by all accounts, heard it off one of the locals today

Transfer not done yet?

http://www.thescore.ie/st-brigids-mulvihilll-garrycastle-1390067-Mar2014/

yabadabado

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Westmeath and Garrycastle's Paddy Mulvihill has transferred to former all ireland champions St Brigids of Kiltoom by all accounts, heard it off one of the locals today

manofwisdom wrote: »

Transfer not done yet?

http://www.thescore.ie/st-brigids-mulvihilll-garrycastle-1390067-Mar2014/

lad I know involved with GarryCastle told me yesterday that its far from finalized. GarryCastle haven't received a transfer from Brigid's(not sure if they have to) and he hasn't had any falling out with management.They very much hope to keep him playing with them.

Syferus

yabadabado wrote: »

lad I know involved with GarryCastle told me yesterday that its far from finalized. GarryCastle haven't received a transfer from Brigid's(not sure if they have to) and he hasn't had any falling out with management.They very much hope to keep him playing with them.

Himself and Dessie Snr. have been at logger heads for some time. The only thing that will prevent him lining out for Brigids this year is politics on the Garrycastle end. The split in Athlone GAA decades back benefited both Brigids and Garrycastle, the two clubs are heavily linked so Brigids wouldn't have took accepting Paddy on board lightly.

I can see him being huge for Brigids this year, probably as Mango's midfield partner or as the third midfielder at 11. Cathal McHugh, Senan and Frankie seem solid at FF unless McHugh's injuries don't clear up. He absolutely destroyed Brigids around the middle in the 2012 AISF with Garrycastle. He played U19 soccer for Ireland too so he's quite a talented player to have available to any club.

Trying to keep a player that doesn't want to stay is a great way of ensuring they never come back.

RoscommonTom

Does any fella know when the under 21s is playing next

RoscommonTom

Does any fella know when the under 21s is playing next

Francescoli

RoscommonTom wrote: »

Does any fella know when the under 21s is playing next

playing Leitrim in Carrick ,2:30 on Saturday.

Syferus

A Croke Park official states: "At the moment the transfer has been granted and will be confirmed once St Brigid's register the player as a club member."

http://www.hoganstand.com/roscommon/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=213339

Haven't a clue what Garrycastle were playing at trying to deny it was happening yesterday. This has been an open secret for over a month now.

I know they'd be upset about losing such an important player but it appears to have been some seriously ill-advised sour grapes by whoever were the source for yesterday's comments.

Strongbow10

This move will end is tears and a fall out in the St Brigids Kiltoom camp, mark my words. And I'm neither a Brigids nor Garrycastle fan.

Irish94

Strongbow10 wrote: »

This move will end is tears and a fall out in the St Brigids Kiltoom camp, mark my words. And I'm neither a Brigids nor Garrycastle fan.

If he is trouble, he'll be gone from Brigid's straight away. McHale and O'Brien wouldn't tolerate any of it.

Syferus

Strongbow10 wrote: »

This move will end is tears and a fall out in the St Brigids Kiltoom camp, mark my words. And I'm neither a Brigids nor Garrycastle fan.

Brigids are the club that birthed Frankie. They know how to deal with fiery characters.

It's more likely to end in tears of joy. With the injuries to McHugh, Darren Dolan and Ian Kilbride cleared, Frankie's ban reduced and pretty much over already and emerging talent like Gleeson and Kelly and then adding PM puts Brigids in quite a good place going into a win now season.

Strongbow10

Syferus wrote: »

Brigids are the club that birthed Frankie. They know how to deal with fiery characters.

It's more likely to end in tears of joy. With the injuries to McHugh, Darren Dolan and Ian Kilbride cleared, Frankie's ban reduced and pretty much over already and emerging talent like Gleeson and Kelly and then adding PM puts Brigids in quite a good place going into a win now season.

Lets see

Brigids have a fantastic set up yes, with some terrific players.

But lets see how they take to Mulvihill. Very good player yes, but lets see what happens if a favourite loses his place.

Its going to be fascinating.

Irish94

Strongbow10 wrote: »

But lets see how they take to Mulvihill. Very good player yes, but lets see what happens if a favourite loses his place.

The only two forwards guaranteed to start are Senan and Frankie. The other four spots are by no means guaranteed to anyone.

Syferus

Sure Garvan D was dropped for the AI final and you didn't hear a peep. I'm sure when Mulvihill starts training with Brigids he'll start if he's good enough, just like anyone else. Players don't have to be happy with someone else starting but if the proof is on the field. It's not the first time a good player has joined a new club.

These lads have an attitude that's foreign to almost all clubs in the country. If there was any club in the county that I would be confident could deal with a problem correctly it's Brigids.

It may make for a boring end result for the county championship but I'd love to see Brigids back playing in November and February this season. They are a rare joy to watch as a Roscommon supporter.

Francescoli

Syferus wrote: »

Sure Garvan D was dropped for the AI final and you didn't hear a peep. I'm sure when Mulvihill starts training with Brigids he'll start if he's good enough, just like anyone else. Players don't have to be happy with someone else starting but if the proof is on the field. It's not the first time a good player has joined a new club.

These lads have an attitude that's foreign to almost all clubs in the country. If there was any club in the county that I would be confident could deal with a problem correctly it's Brigids.

It may make for a boring end result for the county championship but I'd love to see Brigids back playing in November and February this season. They are a rare joy to watch as a Roscommon supporter.

What is so brilliant about their attitude compared to other clubs that are competing at the top end of the club championships?

Syferus

Francescoli wrote: »

What is so brilliant about their attitude compared to other clubs that are competing at the top end of the club championships?

5-10 out of 600.

walrusgumble

yabadabado wrote: »

lad I know involved with GarryCastle told me yesterday that its far from finalized. GarryCastle haven't received a transfer from Brigid's(not sure if they have to) and he hasn't had any falling out with management.They very much hope to keep him playing with them.

I know of mulvhill from playing football but I can't, for the life of me see this happening.whatever about aspirations of playing intercounty football, can't see him giving up his links with Garrycastle.I don't know the guy personally but I thought he was Garrycastle through n through.there would want to have been some row to see this happen.then again, Frankie Dolan went to Ballymahon years ago.

Strongbow10

walrusgumble wrote: »

I know of mulvhill from playing football but I can't, for the life of me see this happening.whatever about aspirations of playing intercounty football, can't see him giving up his links with Garrycastle.I don't know the guy personally but I thought he was Garrycastle through n through.there would want to have been some row to see this happen.then again, Frankie Dolan went to Ballymahon years ago.

Does Mulvihill have any links to Kiltoom? Is he from the area originally?

Gunneros

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Does Mulvihill have any links to Kiltoom? Is he from the area originally?

No,he has no links to kiltoom, he lives in moate and works in mullingar. A kiltoom address has been forwarded in the paperwork but it is purely beurocratic. Paddy mulvihill clocked Garvan Dolan as the players left the field at half time in the AI semi 3 years ago. Everyone presumed he would be sent off before the second half started but he was only booked and went on to torment us in the second half. The first ball contested between the 2 at training will be interesting.

Syferus

Sure there were rumours of actual fighting at training in the AI-winning season, if there was no edge in training I'd be far more worried as a coach. You don't need to like each other to respect each other.

To Walrus - it's already a done deal. The issues with Dessie Snr. and Paddy are well known in the area.

Irish94

Syferus wrote: »

Sure there were rumours of actual fighting at training in the AI-winning season, if there was no edge in training I'd be far more worried as a coach. You don't need to like each other to respect each other.

These rumours were true, I won't name the players involved but there was a few scraps. Look at Cole and Sheringham, neither talked to one another. But on the pitch they were brilliant together and won the treble in 99 with Man United.

Syferus

Connacht U21 champions 2014 - Ros 0-19 Leitrim 1-03.

Professional job, never let Leitrim into it. Only one target left this season.

Lemlin

Syferus wrote: »

Connacht U21 champions 2014 - Ros 0-19 Leitrim 1-03.

Professional job, never let Leitrim into it. Only one target left this season.

Did Roscommon play some of their U21s last week vs Cavan? I didn't think they would have but a friend reckons a man from Roscommon in the crowd told him they had some playing.

rossie1977

Lemlin wrote: »

Did Roscommon play some of their U21s last week vs Cavan? I didn't think they would have but a friend reckons a man from Roscommon in the crowd told him they had some playing.

None of the under 21s were on the panel last week against cavan

Syferus

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Am I gone cracked but I don't remember ever seeing a GAA scarf before.

Lemlin

rossie1977 wrote: »

None of the under 21s were on the panel last week against cavan

Thanks. That is what I thought myself.

JR79

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

Am I gone cracked but I don't remember ever seeing a GAA scarf before.

I have the same roscommon scarf in a wardrobe somewhere bought in 2001!

Lemlin

Roscommon have won 3 of the last 5 Connacht U21s. Galway therefore I take it have only won two but went all the way both times.

Syferus

A few images to mark the occasion of our eighth Connacht U21 title:








One of many great catches by young Enda, even though he's slightly out-of-focus I couldn't let Cathal Kenny's excellent reaction go to waste:




..or Cathal's face when Enda finally returned to the ground:

nice_guy80

Lemlin wrote: »

Roscommon have won 3 of the last 5 Connacht U21s. Galway therefore I take it have only won two but went all the way both times.

Galway robbed Ros last year in the under 21 final

manofwisdom

Lemlin wrote: »

Galway therefore I take it have only won two but went all the way both times.

2002 to 2013 Galway only 4 Connacht U-21 titles yet they won the All Ireland each year they won Connacht. Very few sides with a better record in the All Ireland series than them.

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Galway robbed Ros last year in the under 21 final

You could say Roscommon lost it more than Galway won it.

RoscommonTom

Syferus wrote: »

A few images to mark the occasion of our eighth Connacht U21 title:








One of many great catches by young Enda, even though he's slightly out-of-focus I couldn't let Cathal Kenny's excellent reaction go to waste:




..or Cathal's face when Enda finally returned to the ground:










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Mighty stuff, great pictures syfrus,]

Irish94

Paddy Mulvihill trained for Brigid's tonight, he will be a massive addition if the transfer is through.

nice_guy80

2 huge games in two weeks, with a potential 3rd as well.

Under 21 semi v Cork. I can see Cork's physical size being a huge challenge for us. Though I do think we have an exceptional bunch of players, with some of the most naturally talented forwards in a generation - Smiths, Murtagh etc. Can we do it?

League final v Cavan. With a totally different team from the one which played a few weeks ago I think we can give this a right rattle. With the ground hardening up over the past few weeks it will suit attacking teams.

Syferus

I don't think Cork's size is even an issue. This is one of the strongest U21 sides (physically, and height-wise) we've ever produced. The Galway team that beat a good chunk of this Cork side last year were significantly slighter than our lads and it made little difference.

I'm very interested to see how Nigel uses Ultan on Saturday, playing him for an extended period in a game already long over against Leitrim tells me he's planning on utilising the Clann man more in the AISF. If he's fit enough even for a half of football he would be an incredible boost to the team's chances.

Cork always have a stereotype of having big strong sides but like us they are a county whose preferred style is attacking football rather than bruising football or defensive football. I expect a game more about skill and less about size. It should be a cracker.

megadodge

From what I've seen of Cork they are a serious outfit. As already mentioned they are a big, physically strong side and more importantly, they can really play. I feel that Tipp were nothing like the minors of three years ago, but the goals kept them in a game where they were being totally dominated. Cork were a far better side than them.

This is going to be a very tough match to win for either side.

blowitupref

megadodge wrote: »

From what I've seen of Cork they are a serious outfit. As already mentioned they are a big, physically strong side and more importantly, they can really play. I feel that Tipp were nothing like the minors of three years ago, but the goals kept them in a game where they were being totally dominated. Cork were a far better side than them.

This is going to be a very tough match to win for either side.

Yes the three goals Tipp got gave the Munster final scoreline a false look its seems Tipp have regressed since Minor level however a good few of their 2011 minors are underage again next year. This Cork U-21 team is regarded to be stronger than last year however probably because they bet Kerry more comfortably. Roscommon had comfortable wins this year over big names such as Mayo,Kildare,Meath its a real 50/50 game a moment of individual brilliance from let's say Diarmuid Murtagh could decide this match.

Gunneros

Has the team been picked yet?

Syferus

Gunneros wrote: »

Has the team been picked yet?

Word is Conor Daly is fit to start despite previous rumours. Kelly was already out and Sweeney's ankle injury looks to have ruled him out. The end result being Ronan Daly will join his brother in flanking John Mac in the HB line.

Seems that Ultan Harney is finally fit to start and he'll replace Killoran in the middle, who is actually quite unlucky to lose out but he's someone who will be quite versatile coming off the bench.

Besides that it's how we were for the Connacht final.

Gary Neville

blowitupref wrote: »

Yes the three goals Tipp got gave the Munster final scoreline a false look its seems Tipp have regressed since Minor level however a good few of their 2011 minors are underage again next year. This Cork U-21 team is regarded to be stronger than last year however probably because they bet Kerry more comfortably. Roscommon had comfortable wins this year over big names such as Mayo,Kildare,Meath its a real 50/50 game a moment of individual brilliance from let's say Diarmuid Murtagh could decide this match.

We rate our U21 team very highly here in Cork but at this level, you can never be sure. Our record against Connaught Opposition, in recent years, has been poor. We've conceded a few goals - 2 v Kerry and 3 v Tipp and Roscommon showed against Mayo that they can take goals chances that are presented.

It should be an open high scoring game.

SureYWouldntYa

A finish like that, be jaysus it's not good for the heart

Always_Running

Well done roscommon great match and win really should have won by more. All the best in final

Santa Cruz

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

A finish like that, be jaysus it's not good for the heart

They're the type of finishes that will stand to players as they progress. It's not over till it's over. Well done Ross. Promotion for the Seniors and a few lads snapping at their heels is what you need

megadodge

Just back and there's a mixture of emotions.

Obviously, Roscommon won an All-Ireland semi-final, so we have to be happy. For long periods of the game Ros were very dominant and in truth they should have won by at least 5-6 points. The team as a unit showed tremendous character a number of times after conceding soft scores (all three goals) and the general scoring ability of the team continues to be very impressive.

The amount of unforced turnovers is definitely worrying. I think they were more concentration-based rather than for any technical reason, but the sheer number suggests complacency perhaps? Anyway, without them Cork would have been beaten long before the finish. Each time, in fairness, Ros responded well, but...

The breaking ball at midfield again was an issue. They just have to be that bit cuter in reading the break and of course, the actual breaker himself has to try and guide it a little, a la Cavan midfielder Argue in the first half who consistently intentionally broke the ball towards Cavan players.

Anyway, with two weeks to help heal injuries (hopefully) and work on the above and having just scraped the win, the expectation won't be as crazy as it would have been if we had won by 6+ points, so I think Roscommon are coming into the final the way you'd want them to. Here's hoping.

Syferus

While I agree about our play at the back I thought we deconstructed Cork in the middle, and that was based on some great controlled breaks, something Corcoran is becoming a master at. The seniors could learn a lot from the U21 in that regard.

Gary Neville

Syferus wrote: »

While I agree about our play at the back I thought we deconstructed Cork in the middle, and that was based on some great controlled breaks, something Corcoran is becoming a master at. The seniors could learn a lot from the U21 in that regard.

Congratulations to Roscommon - outstanding performances - Ye will soon end Mayo's domination with players like these coming through. Credit to Rossie Supporters too - ye outnumbered us 10/1 and I was surrounded by Rossie Supporters in the stand and could not have hoped to meet a nicer group of people - a credit to your county.

I sincerely hope ye win it now and think ye will - in fact if ye get that Wicklow Gob****e reffing the final - ye will be absolute certainties.

Everyone sees things from their own perspective - but we felt the ref gave ye some very soft free to keep ye ahead - IMO we would have taken over in the 2nd half if we had a decent ref - Cavan disgraced themselves but there wasn't enough of us there to attack the ref even if we were minded to do so (we don't do that kind of thing)

It really should have gone to extra time and we would have known who the best side were. Soft goals maybe but really well finished and your FB line was always seen as vulnerable.