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the new park on site of kilbarry dump

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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,728 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    The turning of an eye-sore in to something that's nice to look at, and has some practical use(the running track/loop) and a place for young folk to hang out when the weathers good?

    That's bad in some people's eyes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Silverado


    eeloe wrote: »
    The turning of an eye-sore in to something that's nice to look at, and has some practical use(the running track/loop) and a place for young folk to hang out when the weathers good?

    That's bad in some people's eyes?

    ... and some of the people commenting here have the right to vote!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    Ah a park on a 40 year old dump, lovely!

    Sure throw a bit of topsoil on it it'll be grand. :rolleyes::eek::eek::eek:

    Have to say i agree with the first poster,

    I can just see it now a smoke filled meeting room top shirt buttons open sweat pouring, what are we gonna do with this dump,

    I know stick a few trees on it and a track and we'll call it a park,
    Dont be stupid the people wont fall for that, they'll fall for what we tell them to fall for, just tell them theres been a report done its clean and tidy and 40 years later after all that dumping its fine!

    What did they do spend a couple of hundred thousand on it and now voila its fine?

    Sure its fine, theres nothing wrong with it.:rolleyes:

    The money wasnt just spent on it being a park, it was spent on making it safe to locals and the environment, removing an eye-sore and eliminating any chance of a smell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭south


    Derby's pride park stadium was built on a dump. Opened in 1997 and has 20000 + people in it every other week and not a problem with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭Finnbar01


    yeah but i assumed he was implying that the park would be a suitable somewhere.


    AFAIK, the soil has been treated and all toxic stuff removed.

    Three eyed fish? You watch too much of the Simpson's mate.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    Theres lots of things done well in other countries, this is ireland one of the most corrupt country's in the world,

    Im glad you trust that theyve done a good job!

    Enjoy and breath in the lovely fresh air!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Typhoon.


    I think the dump has been fully lined (by FLI or someone)... sure arent the gases that are captured being piped into the kingfisher and burned off as part of their heating system?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,624 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    am, what about rodents?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭beazee


    wmpdd3 wrote: »
    am, what about rodents?

    ...are captured being piped into the kingfisher and burned off as part of their heating system?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Typhoon.


    they're called Gym rats :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    You people are so trusting, look at all the sh't jobs that were done in dublin and other counties on housing estates when people were trusted and checked by inspectors and paperwork signed off on but the places were still closed down because they were done wrong and they were signed off on, it wasnt one mistake it was a catalogue of mistakes.

    that apartment block in dublin that was closed by the council was signed off on by the council when it was opened but the same council closed down the estate because it was a fire hazard not to mention all the other problems.

    Im glad to see you are all so trust worthy after years and years of corruption and work not being done properly,


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    You're a dope if you really believe this is a bad thing. Would you have preferred the area to remain as an unused land fill?

    Months were spent clearing away materials, more months were spent treating and lining the area. Methane gas is drained from there. A couple of years have been spent planting and cultivating the land. The eco aspect of it is a European standard so your paranoia about councils is ridiculous.

    But sure don't let facts get in the way of an idiotic rant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    The renovation of the old dump is like the Parsons egg, its good in parts, it could not have been the ideal job as it was not built in cells originally, they lined the dump fully on top only, are collecting the methane gas alright, but I believe they are flaring it off not burning it in a generating plant which is unfortunate.it its the best compromise for a dump that was not planned or any planning put into for its future use, hopefully that mindset or lack of it is gone from the WCC, as regards the statement that all the toxins have been taken out, that is wrong, it had just between capped the leachate is collected and treated, .
    Spankdamunkeye should really get his facts right before he engages his fingers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭beazee


    You people are so trusting, look at all the sh't jobs that were done in dublin and other counties on housing estates
    It's not just another housing estate job. It's a job done on behalf of WCC and strictly regulated by EPA.

    Only to mention WCC were prosecuted in 2006 in relation to Kilbarry:
    http://www.epa.ie/whatwedo/enforce/prosecute/2006/name,14068,en.html

    WCC is required to prepare annual environmental reports on Kilbarry Site to EPA! Have a look yourself - 336pp. 2010 report under the link below:
    http://www.epa.ie/licences/lic_eDMS/090151b2803e61b3.pdf

    Extract:
    The landfill is currently closed to the public and remediation has taken place between 2005 and 2009 which included the installation of the final cap over the area of the waste body and installation of a gas abstraction system consisting of 82no. wells and a 500m3 permanent, enclosed gas flarestack. A surface water management system was installed in 2010. (...)

    The site was in operation in the region of 40 years. The total volume of waste deposited to date is estimated to be 1,094,513m3.
    The last area of landfilling was located in a lined cell constructed in 2002/2003 located at the northern end of the landfill. The site closed on 26th August 2005.(...)

    An Environmental Liability Risk Assessment (ELRA) was performed by Golders Associates early in 2009 on behalf of Waterford City Council for the Kilbarry site. This is included in Appendix IX. (...)

    Monitoring of the composition of leachate is undertaken on a quarterly basis, with analysis of a wider range of parameters on an annual basis. In addition leachate levels are also taken on a weekly basis. Appendix 1 contains a record of the leachate levels and the monitoring results.(...)

    Odour monitoring carried out on the 9th March 2010 shows results with a maximum value of 67 ou/m3 (odour units per cubic metre).There was no distinct odour from any of the samples. (...) As can be seen from these results odour is not a major problem at the site and this would be attributed to the fact that the site is closed and no longer operational. (...)

    landfill gas flare monitoring is required on an annual basis for particulates, organics, hydrogen chloride and hydrogen fluoride. The monitoring events occurred on 09.03.10 and 15.11.10. The two monitoring reports are included in Appendix IV. Both reports conclude that all emissions are within limits specified by section G.3 of the waste licence and the flare is achieving a methane destruction efficiency of greater than 99%. (...)

    A contract is in place with Rentokil Ireland. A programme of baiting can be employed as required to control rat infestations with preventative baiting at regular intervals to ensure that large populations do not become established. Since closure of the landfill vermin has not been a significant issue on site (..)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    How the gas has been dealt with by F.L.I. Environmental

    http://www.fli.ie/downloads/Landfill%20Gas%20Collection.pdf


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