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Michael D Higgins, a bit to much to the left?
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CommuterIE wrote: »How has he got a backbone lol, to plunge this country into a further decade of depression?? I don't think he meant to do that but he contributed to it, and this guys has the gall to speak out for equality and human rights and marxist theory?
Are you mental?
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siltirocker wrote: »This thread contains the biggest amount of OVERBLOWN bullsh1t i have ever read in my boards.ie history.
Did someone suggest that Michael D. "will break the country"?
The small human rights dude from Westside, Galway?
If you read this thread with the idea that the subject is Castro. . . it actually makes sense and seems accurate. :pac:
Bullsh1t merchants the lot of ye.
Throughout history small men have proven to be the greatest dictators that ever existed.0 -
figarofigaro wrote: »Are you mental?
Apparently so. He thinks that the US won WW2. He's clearly a little out of sorts.0 -
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CommuterIE wrote: »What is it about Irish Presidential elections that bring out all of the lefties?
Wasn't aware that Sean Gallagher, Gay Mitchell, or Dana were lefties!It's also the same Michael D who was up in arms about Americas involvement in South America with his outrageously rabid commentary on the whole thing, basically America was propping up dictators to try and prevent leftist and religious nuts toppling them...
Neither was I aware that condemning human rights abuses, or criticising the undermining of democratically elected governments, was unique to the Left. I don't consider myself particularly left wing, but is such actions are the litmus test, then I'd be proud to call myself a Leftie! I mean, how could any decent person, left or right, possibly agree that human rights abuses, and the toppling of democratic regimes are legitimate policies?It is concerning that this guy, as geriatric as he is now, but even so this country is dependent on American investment, they'll see him as President of Ireland spouting leftist gibberish. Even though it is mostly a ceremonial role, Americans in general may see him as some kind of leader and put them off with his rethoric.
Oh grow up, and read something about the real world, rather than indulging your own ignorance in order to make a baseless ideological argument. American corporations don't give a hoot about Michael D, as long as their taxes are kept low, and their businesses here profitable. The American government has friendly relations with many nations who have criticised them over the years. Were the Us to turn its back on nations who didn't toe the party line, she'd practically friendless in the world. To suggest that a mature relationship between two democracies should preclude criticism is as absurd as you can get.CommuterIE wrote: »What a load of crap
Left = Lets all be friends, pay each other the same and be happy
(doomed to failure)
Right = Get of your ****ing arse, innovate and promote competition to better our society... yes some will make millions or billions out of it, but so what? They've worked for it!
I think your initial statement accurately describes the rest of your post. A left wing economic position does not at all preclude a market economy, or a capitalist system. The former president of the IMF was a French socialist, and favourite to win his party's presidential nomination. Most of the post-war governments in Europe have been left-wing in comparison to the US parties, and most predicated their economic plans on the market and the capitalist system. Your notions on what constitutes the left and the right are as facile as they are preposterous.CommuterIE wrote: »I supported Mary Robinson and Mary McAleese for the presidency, I am right wing but not foolish enough to vote for extremes like Michael D who will only damage the country even further with his mouth... however a little bit of the left is fine with me, brings some balance as I support other view points... but Michael D, no f***in way
What on earth has Michael D said that has you so opposed to him? Criticised human rights violations in South America? What a monster!CommuterIE wrote: »He is a person who'ld voice his dangerous anti-american rhetoric alright!
Some examples please?
Also, is American policy somehow immune from criticism?least from a so far left winger, he is a marxist, and in this democratic Republic, to have him in that office is an offence to me and most of the country
Are you Sarah Palin in disguise? How on earth is Higgins a Marxist? What policies does he advocate that are Marxist? Why is he not a mamber of the ULA, instead of the Labour Party, which is definitely not a Marxist organisation? Do you even know what a Marxist is?0 -
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CommuterIE wrote: »What is it about Irish Presidential elections that bring out all of the lefties?
Wasn't aware that Sean Gallagher, Gay Mitchell, or Dana were lefties!It's also the same Michael D who was up in arms about Americas involvement in South America with his outrageously rabid commentary on the whole thing, basically America was propping up dictators to try and prevent leftist and religious nuts toppling them...
Neither was I aware that condemning human rights abuses, or criticising the undermining of democratically elected governments, was unique to the Left. I don't consider myself particularly left wing, but is such actions are the litmus test, then I'd be proud to call myself a Leftie! I mean, how could any decent person, left or right, possibly agree that human rights abuses, and the toppling of democratic regimes are legitimate policies?It is concerning that this guy, as geriatric as he is now, but even so this country is dependent on American investment, they'll see him as President of Ireland spouting leftist gibberish. Even though it is mostly a ceremonial role, Americans in general may see him as some kind of leader and put them off with his rethoric.
Oh grow up, and read something about the real world, rather than indulging your own ignorance in order to make a baseless ideological argument. American corporations don't give a hoot about Michael D, as long as their taxes are kept low, and their businesses here profitable. The American government has friendly relations with many nations who have criticised them over the years. Were the Us to turn its back on nations who didn't toe the party line, she'd practically friendless in the world. To suggest that a mature relationship between two democracies should preclude criticism is as absurd as you can get.CommuterIE wrote: »What a load of crap
Left = Lets all be friends, pay each other the same and be happy (doomed to failure)
Right = Get of your ****ing arse, innovate and promote competition to better our society... yes some will make millions or billions out of it, but so what? They've worked for it!
I think your initial statement accurately describes the rest of your post. A left wing economic position does not at all preclude a market economy, or a capitalist system. The former president of the IMF was a French socialist, and favourite to win his party's presidential nomination. Most of the post-war governments in Europe have been left-wing in comparison to the US parties, and most predicated their economic plans on the market and the capitalist system. Your notions on what constitutes the left and the right are as facile as they are preposterous.CommuterIE wrote: »I supported Mary Robinson and Mary McAleese for the presidency, I am right wing but not foolish enough to vote for extremes like Michael D who will only damage the country even further with his mouth... however a little bit of the left is fine with me, brings some balance as I support other view points... but Michael D, no f***in way
What on earth has Michael D said that has you so opposed to him? Criticised human rights violations in South America? What a monster!CommuterIE wrote: »He is a person who'ld voice his dangerous anti-american rhetoric alright!
Some examples please?
Also, is American policy somehow immune from criticism?least from a so far left winger, he is a marxist, and in this democratic Republic, to have him in that office is an offence to me and most of the country
Are you Sarah Palin in disguise? How on earth is Higgins a Marxist? What policies does he advocate that are Marxist? Why is he not a mamber of the ULA, instead of the Labour Party, which is definitely not a Marxist organisation? Do you even know what a Marxist is?
He is a Marxist. He uses terms like praxis and cash nexus and other boilerplate Marxist terms in his writing.
Here's another test : he was very critical about right wing dictatorships in central America in the 80's. There were dictatorships in Europe at the time. I don't recall these Marxist dictatorships being criticized( he wrote for Hot Press). I do remember attacks on Sweden and Japan.0 -
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