Tall girls

Yahew

panda100 wrote: »

+1. And its not just men that lie about their height. I know I am 6'1,I've been measured lots of time. The amount of women and men who tell me that I must be 6'4 because they are 5'11! It really annoys me, beacuse noone wants to be reminded that they are abnormally tall, and I don't like being told that I am 6'4!!

Men in Ireland measure themselves by asking their mates and adding or subtracting the differences. Since nobody actually gets measured, except the very tall and the athletic, everybody adds 2 inches.

Even on this thread, people who think they are tall at 5'8, and get loads of comments about how tall they are?!5'8 to me is not tall!If 5'8 women are getting comments on their height, can you imagine what its like for us over 6'. I don't mind comments on my height, but its not the most complementary thing you can say to someone. For once, I would love for someone to notice my eyes or my smile, rather than saying'You're huge'.

Tall is above average though, and 5'8" is above average for women. By 2-3 inches. The equivalent is men is 6ft + ( a real six foot as opposed to the Irish 6ft = 5'10")

Anyway, rant over.Moral of the story, If you see a tall women and want to impress her, then dont mention height.

You type very well.

beks101

Yahew wrote: »

Men in Ireland measure themselves by asking their mates and adding or subtracting the differences. Since nobody actually gets measured, except the very tall and the athletic, everybody adds 2 inches.

This. Although it's not just an Irish thing. Most of the guys I've dated over here in Canada in the past year have added at least 2 - 3 inches to their 'actual' height...one guy was the same height as me in heels (no more than 5'6) and claimed to be 5'11. I thought I was going mad until a few months later a mate from London came to visit, he is ACTUALLY 5'11 and the difference was immense. I felt short beside him at my 5' nothing, never did with the previous guy.

Height seems to be to lads what weight is to women.

Anyway, back OT...I'd love to be a few inches taller. A bit more legginess would be awesome, plus I'd probably not be such a magnet for short guys. I LOVE height, but get hit on by mainly guys who are close to my eye level!

Eathrin

beks101 wrote: »

This. Although it's not just an Irish thing. Most of the guys I've dated over here in Canada in the past year have added at least 2 - 3 inches to their 'actual' height...one guy was the same height as me in heels (no more than 5'6) and claimed to be 5'11. I thought I was going mad until a few months later a mate from London came to visit, he is ACTUALLY 5'11 and the difference was immense. I felt short beside him at my 5' nothing, never did with the previous guy.

Height seems to be to lads what weight is to women.

Anyway, back OT...I'd love to be a few inches taller. A bit more legginess would be awesome, plus I'd probably not be such a magnet for short guys. I LOVE height, but get hit on by mainly guys who are close to my eye level!

Same reason why people think I'm like 7 foot when I'm only 6'3

Susie_Q

I'm pretty small at 5'3 and my boyfriend is 6'2 and well built. Have to say I've always found it difficult to get through crowds as a small person as people just don't see you - now the fella just goes in front of me and people always always move out of his way! He's great help when trying to get off the DART at rush hour when the platform is packed.

Sometimes it is genuinely embarrassing when I'm in the supermarket and can't reach something on the top shelf. I've asked completely strangers to help me before and they always get a giggle out of it. I don't mind but wish I didn't have to ask!

LegacyUser

Came across this topic, seems interesting.... I like the way a lot of Irish girls consider themselves tall at under 6ft, i think a lot are measuring themselves in heels!

having come back from the Continent where there are plenty of women well over 6ft without heels, it certainly puts this into perspective!

at a very average 5'8 I have dated women taller and have a preference for them too, tallest being 6ft2, or 6ft5 in heels... Was great fun to see the looks from people walking down the street with the top of my head to her shoulder... god you would think i was an alien!

I just think irish people need to wake up, why does the woman always have to play the submmissive weak role, being "protected" by the irrelevant big caveman!

Surely these days a man's abilty to protect a woman is by his brains, and financial status rather than physical size?

The_Minister

lizt wrote: »

I sense a tall people beers in the making

That would be great fun - you can imagine the looks we would get from everyone though, if we all sat together.

Yahew

Dman5f8 wrote: »

Came across this topic, seems interesting.... I like the way a lot of Irish girls consider themselves tall at under 6ft, i think a lot are measuring themselves in heels!

having come back from the Continent where there are plenty of women well over 6ft without heels, it certainly puts this into perspective!

at a very average 5'8 I have dated women taller and have a preference for them too, tallest being 6ft2, or 6ft5 in heels... Was great fun to see the looks from people walking down the street with the top of my head to her shoulder... god you would think i was an alien!

I just think irish people need to wake up, why does the woman always have to play the submmissive weak role, being "protected" by the irrelevant big caveman!

Surely these days a man's abilty to protect a woman is by his brains, and financial status rather than physical size?

Fact is that is a bit odd, which is why you got the looks. Why do these things always come back to the "Irish" - I don't see taller females dating smaller males commonly anywhere. And on the continent, people - with the exception of the Dutch, or the nordics - are the same size, or smaller as you go south and south east.

And women under 6ft can be tall. The average is about 5'5" or so. Saying a 5'10" woman isn't tall is like saying a 6'3" man isn't tall.

super_furry

Tall girls are brilliant. My girlfriend is the same height as me and it's great not getting a crick in my neck when we kiss.

Madam

What is considered tall I wonder? I'm 5' 7" am I tall or medium height I wonder

Yahew

you're about ( but above) average. Its important when working out the average for gender to include older people, since they are not excluded from the stats. But most people compare against their immediate peer groups.

chickenbutt

I am 6ft tall and I have always been really insecure about it. I feel like guys are always intimidated by me as well, or at least that's the impression I get. Thankfully my boyfriend is pretty much the same height as me (maybe a few cm shorter), he likes it (my nickname is legs to yaya toure) but when i wear something with a bit of a heel he feels a bit self conscious i think.

DebDynamite

Dman5f8 wrote: »

why does the woman always have to play the submmissive weak role, being "protected" by the irrelevant big caveman!

+ 1

One thing that drives me mad when reading some wedding forums is "I need to find wedding shoes with a kitten heel. I can't be taller than my husband in the photos". Why not??! Do they not mind being taller than their fella any other time? My fiance couldn't care less. We're around the same size but when I wear heels I'm taller than him so why should it be any different in our wedding photos?

johnr1

It's interesting, - this thing about "having a complex" or insecurity issues about dating someone taller/guy shorter/girl.

I'd consider myself reasonably well adjusted, dont really see why it should make any difference, but it feckin does,- for me anyway

I'm between 5'10 and 5'11 depending, thats actual btw, not aspirational.
When I was in my teens and early twenties I gravitated towards girls who were significantly shorter. Then I ended up long term with a woman of exactly my own height, and after we split up, the first shorter woman I hugged/kissed/put arm around -it felt like coming home, a kinda "good to be back" feeling.

Surely there must be more to this than insecurities seeing as its quite common?

Blush_01

Dman5f8, I think that's pretty condescending and dismissive, as though we're unable to grasp the concept of our own height - I'm 5'11" in height. In my favourite wedges I'm 6'3". And I get comments about my height when I wear heels, which is part of where the consciousness of it comes from.

I find it difficult to get clothes long enough. I can't wear knee-high boots because my shins are too long, the calf starts too low and finishes half way up my calf, which means it won't close. I once bought a pair of boots that did close on my leg, but they looked so utterly ridiculous, but I was just so desperate to have a pair of knee high boots. Well, the retailer made some money out of it. :rolleyes:

I have not been attracted to someone shorter than me. Doesn't mean it can't or won't happen, but I'm not.

Also, I would like to, just for once, not be the person who has to get the thing from the top shelf for someone. I don't begrudge the short person, but I definitely think there is a huge difference in how taller and shorter women (in particular) are treated by people who may not know them very well in terms of femininity, as though it were somehow tied to being petite.

PeefsPixie

I love my height until someone else makes an issue out of it... Its hard not to feel a bit crappy about something you cant help when some people point it out as a flaw. Also a lot of people try to make you feel better about it in a bad way... Oh you could be a model!... I HATE when people say that. Of course theres plenty of real compliments to balance things out but I can see why some other girls would dislike being tall

ajjmk

I'm 5'10/11, and some days I'm really self conscious about my height, other days not so much. I live with a girl who is 6ft and we love wearing high heels on nights out. Quite often we end up literally being the tallest people in the club. We get so many comments, from bouncers at the door blatantly laughing at us, to people hovering round us asking if this is the "giant's section".
It can all be a bit of a laugh but sometimes I take serious offence to comments. For example, when people meet me and feel the urge to repeat over and over, "My, you're a BIG girl. A big strong girl. A big lump of a strong girl."
Like, you'd swear I was a whale with the way some people go on! I've a very athletic figure so they're not hinting at my weight. But is my height so ridiculous that you need to comment on it over and over and over.... Way to crush a girls confidence!!

Sorry, rant over! :P

frag420

ajjmk wrote: »

I live with a girl who is 6ft and we love wearing high heels on nights out. Quite often we end up literally being the tallest people in the club. P

And what club would that be eh??

ajjmk

frag420 wrote: »

And what club would that be eh??

Any of the student-y ones around Dublin city centre!

Feisar

I'm 6'3'' and would have no trouble dating a girl that's taller than me.

Really tall girls can tend to stoop a fair bit which doesn't look good.

On the other hand nothing in this world looks as good as a tall leggy blonde in a black dress. IMO of course!

Feisar

Yahew wrote: »

Fact is that is a bit odd, which is why you got the looks. Why do these things always come back to the "Irish" - I don't see taller females dating smaller males commonly anywhere. And on the continent, people - with the exception of the Dutch, or the nordics - are the same size, or smaller as you go south and south east.

And women under 6ft can be tall. The average is about 5'5" or so. Saying a 5'10" woman isn't tall is like saying a 6'3" man isn't tall.

Well I'm 6'3'' on the button and people always comment on my height. OK I'm tall but it's hardly a noteworthy height.

6'4'' plus is tall in my mind.

frag420

ajjmk wrote: »

frag420 wrote: »

And what club would that be eh??

Any of the student-y ones around Dublin city centre!

Ya lost me at studenty bars as I don't l know any!!!

Animord

I am just a tiny bit under 6 foot myself (I'm talking millimeters) and I find it odd that people mention it - I don't go round to other people saying "wow you are really small"

A stranger in a shop recently asked me "do you not suffer from terrible back trouble?" Errr, no - but thanks for asking!

But what I find really funny is the number of men who say to me "But you MUST be 6'2" at least, because I am definitely 6'" It makes me laugh every time.

Eve_Dublin

Dman5f8 wrote: »

I just think irish people need to wake up, why does the woman always have to play the submmissive weak role, being "protected" by the irrelevant big caveman!

Surely these days a man's abilty to protect a woman is by his brains, and financial status rather than physical size?

Ehhhh...Irish women are many things but submissive and weak ain't two of them, pal.

Yahew

Feisar wrote: »

Well I'm 6'3'' on the button and people always comment on my height. OK I'm tall but it's hardly a noteworthy height.

6'4'' plus is tall in my mind.

YOu just called yourself tall, and then said that one inch taller was tall.

I'm 6'3'' and would have no trouble dating a girl that's taller than me.

How many have you ever met?

Bigcheeze

Yahew wrote: »

How many have you ever met?

Was just about to ask the same thing. I'm 6-3 and don't recall ever meeting a woman taller than me.

baggypants

Animord wrote: »

I am just a tiny bit under 6 foot myself (I'm talking millimeters) and I find it odd that people mention it - I don't go round to other people saying "wow you are really small"

A stranger in a shop recently asked me "do you not suffer from terrible back trouble?" Errr, no - but thanks for asking!

LOL i had that said to me once as well i was in a shop and a women asked ''you must suffer with your back'' i replied 'no but thanks for asking' must be a standard question and answer

Animord

baggypants wrote: »

LOL i had that said to me once as well i was in a shop and a women asked ''you must suffer with your back'' i replied 'no but thanks for asking' must be a standard question and answer

LOL, at the time I was kind of reminded of the pictures of 'giants' that you used to see in the Guinness Book of Records who have to lie down because their backs wont support them. I guess thats how she saw me. Doesn't stop me wearing heels though!:p

baggypants

Animord wrote: »

LOL, at the time I was kind of reminded of the pictures of 'giants' that you used to see in the Guinness Book of Records who have to lie down because their backs wont support them. I guess thats how she saw me. Doesn't stop me wearing heels though!:p

i hear ya ,i had another one ,when i was down in kilkenny had this drunk guy grab me in a bear hug and he says to me ''your a tall lad ,by the way im not gay just really really drunk'':eek: :rolleyes: i said cheers now let me go a few of his mates had to grab him :rolleyes: i was about a foot taller than him
Got slagged for months after it

LizT

Was at a concert tonight... Reminded me of the advantages of being tall.

Feisar

Yahew wrote: »

YOu just called yourself tall, and then said that one inch taller was tall.



How many have you ever met?

Yes I'm tall but it's around 6'4'' plus that's more unusual is what I was saying. I'm not saying I'm not above average but it hardly warrants comment.

I've met the odd girl that's taller than me, it's very rare. I can think of three that would be the same height or taller.

Yahew

Feisar wrote: »

Yes I'm tall but it's around 6'4'' plus that's more unusual is what I was saying. I'm not saying I'm not above average but it hardly warrants comment.

I've met the odd girl that's taller than me, it's very rare. I can think of three that would be the same height or taller.

I'd say you are one of those over-estimating your height. The actual average is 5'9" or so in Ireland. The standard deviation for height is 2 inches. If you are 6 inches above that you are 3 standard deviations above the mean- and 99.7% of the population are within 3 standard deviations in any bell shaped curve, which height definitely is.

That would warrant comment. As for three women the same size as you (without heels). If the average female height is 5'6" then a girl who is 6'3" is 9 inches above that. Which is 4.5 standard deviations - between 99.99366575163 + 99.99994266969 of the population are below that.

I've never seen a girl who is 6'3"

LizT

Yahew wrote: »

Feisar wrote: »

Yes I'm tall but it's around 6'4'' plus that's more unusual is what I was saying. I'm not saying I'm not above average but it hardly warrants comment.

I've met the odd girl that's taller than me, it's very rare. I can think of three that would be the same height or taller.

I'd say you are one of those over-estimating your height. The actual average is 5'9" or so in Ireland. The standard deviation for height is 2 inches. If you are 6 inches above that you are 3 standard deviations above the mean- and 99.7% of the population are within 3 standard deviations in any bell shaped curve, which height definitely is.

That would warrant comment. As for three women the same size as you (without heels). If the average female height is 5'6" then a girl who is 6'3" is 9 inches above that. Which is 4.5 standard deviations - between 99.99366575163 + 99.99994266969 of the population are below that.

I've never seen a girl who is 6'3"

So because you've never seen a girl who is 6'3 they don't exist?

I'm six foot and a girl and I'm not over estimating my height. I've been measured several times and I am definitely six foot. I notice when girls are taller than me because I'm used to being the tallest girl in the room. Today I saw a girl in Dublin city centre who was at least 2 or 3 inches taller than me. Rare of course but they do exist.

Debased Pixie

PeefsPixie wrote: »

Tall people meet up would be awesome... I might actually know what it would feel like to be short for once in my life!! Haha

That would be a larf! I'm 'only' 6ft 2' and I feel like a giant in Dublin at times.
Odd thing is, my older brothers are progressively taller.

Debased Pixie

Animord wrote: »

I am just a tiny bit under 6 foot myself (I'm talking millimeters) and I find it odd that people mention it - I don't go round to other people saying "wow you are really small"

A stranger in a shop recently asked me "do you not suffer from terrible back trouble?" Errr, no - but thanks for asking!

But what I find really funny is the number of men who say to me "But you MUST be 6'2" at least, because I am definitely 6'" It makes me laugh every time.

That's cause most guys like to pump up their height.. so you 'MUST' be taller.
I'm 6ft 2, but in actuallity I'm 9ft tall to some people...

Yahew

lizt wrote: »

So because you've never seen a girl who is 6'3 they don't exist?

I'm six foot and a girl and I'm not over estimating my height. I've been measured several times and I am definitely six foot. I notice when girls are taller than me because I'm used to being the tallest girl in the room. Today I saw a girl in Dublin city centre who was at least 2 or 3 inches taller than me. Rare of course but they do exist.

It wasn't just about me. The rest of the post was a mathematical explanation of how unusual 6'3" is in women. Nor did I say women over estimate height. Nor did I say that 6'3" girls don't exist. You probably need to read the post again. At 5 deviations from the norm I would say there is between none and two women above 6'3" in Ireland. Seeing someone above 6'3" is different from knowing three people who are.

Storminateacup

My uncle is 6'4, his wife is 6'2.
They have a two year old daughter who I fear is going to be taller than me by her fourth birthday.

panda100

The_Minister wrote: »

That would be great fun - you can imagine the looks we would get from everyone though, if we all sat together.

Well If we all stay sitting we should be okay,its when we stand that we might get a few funny looks Would be fun to freak all the titches out though

PeefsPixie wrote: »

Also a lot of people try to make you feel better about it in a bad way... Oh you could be a model!... I HATE when people say that. Of course theres plenty of real compliments to balance things out but I can see why some other girls would dislike being tall

I find generally you get two comments .One being 'Oh you could be a model' and the other 'Oh do you play basketaball'. I cant decide which is more annoying. The basketball one indicates that you're a bit too much of a minger to be a model so they'll ask If you play basketball instead.
The model comment is just retarded,because surely they would know your face If you actually were a model. Also, in general the men I hang round with harp on about how much they don't fancy the tall,skinny,catwalk models, so the model comment is kinda a bit of an insult.

Also, girls I dont want to alarm you, but New Look are no longer stocking their Tall section in stores not just in Ireland but in the UK as well

frag420

So who is organising the tall night out then??How about a tall twelve pubs of Xmas??

Lurching

I'm a 6'6" bloke and have been with girls ranging from 5' to 6'1". I think at my height its just easier being with slightly taller girls. I find myself becoming more and more attracted to taller girls as I get older though.

I have to laugh at other blokes who are 5'9" or 5'10" in their twenties saying they are way above average height. The averages take people of all ages in to account. Id be quite confident in saying that the average height for men in their twenties these days is 6' plus.

Debased Pixie

Lurching wrote: »

I'm a 6'6" bloke and have been with girls ranging from 5' to 6'1". I think at my height its just easier being with slightly taller girls. I find myself becoming more and more attracted to taller girls as I get older though.

I have to laugh at other blokes who are 5'9" or 5'10" in their twenties saying they are way above average height. The averages take people of all ages in to account. Id be quite confident in saying that the average height for men in their twenties these days is 6' plus.

Ok, if that's true, lets get an event together and we can all have a laugh at the fools who pump up their height and who show up at the event...:)

Debased Pixie

Actually with tall girls, the one thing that puts me off is the giant feet that go with them.. not all tall girls, but a lot. So what's your shoe size ladies?
(or is that like asking your weight/age?) hehe

But it must be feel strange being a tall girl in Ireland, even I sometimes feel conscious and I'm not that tall.

tiredcity

I'm 5'10 (and a half!) and while I've always loved being tall and enjoy wearing very high heels, I get a lot of stares when I do. I generally ignore it but it's a bit depressing sometimes, especially when shorter male friends start moaning about how I'm too intimidating in heels. Nothing has changed but my shoes, yet I'm made to feel really self-conscious about it. In my experience, being tall isn't associated with being approachable. On the upside, my boyfriend is 6'0 and never cares how lofty I am, even when I'm towering over him, which is nice

Debased Pixie

tiredcity wrote: »

I'm 5'10 (and a half!) and while I've always loved being tall and enjoy wearing very high heels, I get a lot of stares when I do. I generally ignore it but it's a bit depressing sometimes, especially when shorter male friends start moaning about how I'm too intimidating in heels. Nothing has changed but my shoes, yet I'm made to feel really self-conscious about it. In my experience, being tall isn't associated with being approachable. On the upside, my boyfriend is 6'0 and never cares how lofty I am, even when I'm towering over him, which is nice

That's interesting what you said 'In my experience, being tall isn't associated with being approachable' Does that mean you never get harassed by dudes when your out? Is that the general experience of tall girls?

tiredcity

Debased Pixie wrote: »

That's interesting what you said 'In my experience, being tall isn't associated with being approachable' Does that mean you never get harassed by dudes when your out? Is that the general experience of tall girls?

No I definitely do but far, far less than my shorter friends!

A lot of people in bars etc over the years have said I'm intimidating but I think there's more to it than just being tall. I'm pretty shy but I consciously try to carry myself with some sort of confidence and that tends to make people back off if they don't know you. I've also found girls you've just met act a bit more stand offish if you're looming over them, but I never have that problem when I'm wearing converse!

Swedish guys and German guys always seem to think I'm one of theirs and always come over for a chat but Irish guys usually run away! I'm tall, blonde and spent a significant part of my single life working at gigs etc where the crowd were largely bearded introverts, so perhaps it was just that I was a bit incongruous a lot of the time

(For the record, I like beardy introverts, but perhaps they're not the most representative population to be judging such things on!)

tiredcity

Debased Pixie wrote: »

That's interesting what you said 'In my experience, being tall isn't associated with being approachable' Does that mean you never get harassed by dudes when your out? Is that the general experience of tall girls?

Just an addendum to that; I don't want to be repeating what others have said previously in this thread but I think a lot of it boils down to these perceived 'gender roles' and the perception of femininity. A lot - not all - guys and girls want their partner to be a certain height. That's grand. Other variables might change, but that one rarely seems to for a lot of people. The problem is - when I'm stalking about the place in heels, it often feels that other people think I'm somehow denying my femininity by choosing to be so much taller than everyone.

I've never been 6'3 or above naturally, and I'd imagine it may well be different from that perspective, but in wearing heels I'm actively choosing to make myself very tall. A woman of 5'1 who wears heels will be of relatively average height, but someone like myself stands out like a sore thumb sometimes. Occasionally women can be quite bitchy about it and make you feel even more like a drag-queen, as if because you're naturally already tall you shouldn't be "allowed" to wear heels. It's just different. I can't be cute and in heels. I can be "fierce" or "striking" or whatever Beyonce-esque euphemism you want for it, but I can't be the quintessential girly girl. I'm just too tall, too obvious and a head taller than a lot of the people at any bar in Ireland. And that's why I might seem unapproachable, I guess!

It doesn't mean I'll ever stop wearing heels but it's a pity that there's stuff that comes along with it

Debased Pixie

tiredcity wrote: »

Just an addendum to that; I don't want to be repeating what others have said previously in this thread but I think a lot of it boils down to these perceived 'gender roles' and the perception of femininity. A lot - not all - guys and girls want their partner to be a certain height. That's grand. Other variables might change, but that one rarely seems to for a lot of people. The problem is - when I'm stalking about the place in heels, it often feels that other people think I'm somehow denying my femininity by choosing to be so much taller than everyone.

I've never been 6'3 or above naturally, and I'd imagine it may well be different from that perspective, but in wearing heels I'm actively choosing to make myself very tall. A woman of 5'1 who wears heels will be of relatively average height, but someone like myself stands out like a sore thumb sometimes. Occasionally women can be quite bitchy about it and make you feel even more like a drag-queen, as if because you're naturally already tall you shouldn't be "allowed" to wear heels. It's just different. I can't be cute and in heels. I can be "fierce" or "striking" or whatever Beyonce-esque euphemism you want for it, but I can't be the quintessential girly girl. I'm just too tall, too obvious and a head taller than a lot of the people at any bar in Ireland. And that's why I might seem unapproachable, I guess!

It doesn't mean I'll ever stop wearing heels but it's a pity that there's stuff that comes along with it

Well in response to what your saying, I doubt if it's a height thing that women are being 'bitchy' about. I mean if you were..'distorted' (ie. unattractive.. I like to use odd words hehe) for your height, which some tall people can be, then I doubt there would be a problem. If your a tall, leggy, cute blonde, then yes. A lot of Irish girls.. not all though (I don't like to generalize and girls shouldn't generalize about Irish guys either… although their are a huge amount of 'clones' of men and women in this country… just a teeny tiny observation) can be quite insecure and jealous of the perceived attention that you can get if your attractive .. tall or normal or small.

Also, if you are attractive, most guys find ANY attractive girl intimidating, if your tall it increases the intimation. Ax2+T = i : )

It's interesting though, I should probably approach more tall leggy blondes when I'm out.

Gyalist

Lurching wrote: »

I have to laugh at other blokes who are 5'9" or 5'10" in their twenties saying they are way above average height. The averages take people of all ages in to account. Id be quite confident in saying that the average height for men in their twenties these days is 6' plus.

You'd be wrong. I am involved in retail targeted to men in their 20s and early 30s and the most common inseam length that we sell is still 32". I'd be more willing to trust sales data than your anecdotal evidence.

LizT

Gyalist wrote: »

You'd be wrong. I am involved in retail targeted to men in their 20s and early 30s and the most common inseam length that we sell is still 32". I'd be more willing to trust sales data than your anecdotal evidence.

Some people have a longer torso. I take a 34" length in trousers but one of my friends who is the same height takes 36" and sometimes even 38"!

Yahew

lizt wrote: »

Some people have a longer torso. I take a 34" length in trousers but one of my friends who is the same height takes 36" and sometimes even 38"!

That's true, but 32 is approx 5'10-6'. it depends how people wear their trousers too, many would lie them lower than a tailor would recommend ( better than too high though).

I agree with the poster you are responding to. At 5'11'' I am not below average ( of males ) in any line, or queue. In any line, or queue, most men are smaller than me, not just the old, but the young. ( In fact in a bus past a local college they all seem small, although I suppose they are just 18 or 19 and not finished growing).

of course I am 6' + in boots Again, I think people are measuring themselves in the fashion I suggested. asking their mates.

I've discussed this on here before but I love tall women. I'm 5'9" but often find myself attracted to women who are 6 feet or over.