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Rent out and trade up, or pay down negative equity

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  • 05-08-2011 1:58pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 15


    Hi folks, looking for opinions on what to do - with all the property market troubles and this eurozone meltdown, you'd need a crystal ball!

    Here is our situation:

    Own home, remaining mortgage about €200k, house value maybe €125k.
    Mortgage: overpaying at €950 / month
    Combined income €5,000 / month
    Savings: €25k
    Debts: only the mortgage and a Visa bill of €2k - can spare around €1k / month though, so that should be gone by October or so, then will have €1k to save.

    There are some houses out there for about €250 (asking €300 but def negotiate) that would suit us fine because we need more space (moved in together and lots of belongings in storage). Saw ideal home and reckon we could get it for €280k, but would be a stretch getting €260k mortgage.

    With that level of negative equity, it would take us years just to get back to zero, so we want to move. We could be 6-7 years sitting around, and we kinda need the space asap.

    Should we just sit it out, or go for it and buy a bigger house? Our own place should rent for €500 / month, but we don't want to be landlords. Don't mind paying tax, prtb, etc, because we just want to be able to cover maybe half the mortgage, but we just don't want the hassle of tenants - we never wanted to be landlords ever.

    Grateful for any advice guys... ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Is a second mortgage even an option on €75k NE?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    I think if €25k is all the capital you have, there's every chance that if you buy that place you could have two properties in negative equity in a couple of years. That's if a bank would even go near you with an existing mortgage of €75k.

    If you have to have a bigger place - I suggest you rent a bigger place. Don't potentially make the same mistake twice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Get Cracking


    House prices are still falling and will be for a few years.:)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Get Cracking


    Most of the house moves I do are people who are now renting out their own house/apartment and moving in to rented houses for more room etc..:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    I'd put the house on the market and see what offers I got before I decided on what it was worth, to be honest. You might get lucky. I'd rent somewhere after that. The market is in a death spiral (I think) and people who are still earning money in 2 years will be able to dictate terms to people who are sitting on a 3 bed they can't sell for 1/3rd of what they paid.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Treehouse72


    I would be very pessimistic about even being granted a second mortgage with that amount of NE and rental income that would not cover the full repayment. Very pessimistic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    Take the 25k and extend your house


  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭mari2222


    Why not pay the savings off the mortgage and then you will be paying less interest ...will be debt-free quicker.....? Can you de-clutter to "need" less space?


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,299 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    D1stant wrote: »
    Take the 25k and extend your house
    I'd agree with this also. How small is your house, and could it be extended in any way? Or is your current home a small apartment?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Izzy1994


    Thanks for all the replies guys. House is a mid-terrace townhouse, so there's only limited room to put a conservatory at the back, but not much possibility for extension otherwise.
    Also, we've been in touch with a broker, and the outline quotes from the banks do take into account the existing property and the outstanding loan on it, so on that basis, yes we should be able to get a mortgage. That quote was about two months ago, unless something has changed drastically in the meantime.


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