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London and UK riots (started in Tottenham 10:30PM, 6th Aug)

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  • 06-08-2011 11:32pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    Tottenham in flames as protesters riot

    A bus, a shop and two patrol cars have been set on fire in Tottenham. An estimated crowd of around 300 have gathered and there have been reports of looting and shop windows being smashed. Earlier in the day members of a community where a young man was shot dead by police had took to the streets to demand "justice". The 29-year-old, named locally as father-of-four Mark Duggan, died at the scene in Tottenham, north London, on Thursday.

    About 120 people marched from the local Broadwater Farm area to Tottenham Police Station, forcing officers to close the High Road and put traffic diversions in place. A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Missiles were thrown at them. One was set alight and one was pushed into the middle of the High Road." Officers were being dispatched to disperse the crowd, he said.

    He could not confirm that those responsible for the trouble were connected to the protest. A family friend of Mr Duggan, who gave her name only as Nikki, 53, said the man's friends and relatives had organised the protest because "something has to be done" and the marchers wanted "justice for the family." Some of those involved lay in the road to make their point, she said.

    "They're making their presence known because people are not happy," she added. "This guy was not violent. Yes, he was involved in things but he was not an aggressive person. He had never hurt anyone." Mr Duggan had been travelling in a minicab on Thursday and was gunned down after an apparent exchange of fire. A police officer's radio was found to have a bullet lodged in it afterwards, suggesting they may have narrowly escaped being struck.

    Officers had been attempting to carry out an arrest under the Trident operational command unit, which deals with gun crime in the black community, according to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC). An IPCC spokesman said that at around 6.15pm on Thursday, officers from Trident, accompanied by officers from the Specialist Firearms Command (CO19), stopped a minicab to carry out an arrest. "Shots were fired and a 29-year-old man, who was a passenger in the cab, died at the scene," he said.

    It is believed that two shots were fired by a firearms officer, equipped with a Heckler & Koch MP5 carbine. A non-police issue handgun was recovered at the scene as well as the police radio. "Both the radio and the handgun are being sent for expedited forensic tests," the spokesman said.

    "The exact sequence of events is subject to the IPCC investigation. A CO19 officer was taken to hospital as a precautionary measure but has since been discharged." Local MP David Lammy has called for calm, saying the community was anxious over what had happened. A police officer, PC Keith Blakelock, was hacked to death in 1985 following a riot in Broadwater Farm from where the marchers set off this afternoon.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/06/police-cars-attacked-tottenham-mark-duggan

    Hopefully this fiasco will be quelled soon. I am all for protesting, but if shops are being burned and places are being looted, it is not good for the local community or local business the next day.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Have been watching it live on Sky News for the last 30 minutes or so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    in fairness, there's a lot of Tottenham needs burning, make it easier to fit it in a skip afterwards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    'Arry Redknapp is bound to arrive and do an interview from his car with his window down.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    I know it can be annoying when ATMs dont work, but rioting is not acceptable!

    Could they not just ring the bank!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    Oy vey!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    CorkMan wrote: »
    ...A bus, a shop and two patrol cars have been set on fire in Tottenham....
    Have they ruled out spontaneous combustion?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    Given the Met's past history of shooting people who were originally claimed to be a menace, I'm going to withhold judgement on this one until there is more information.

    That said, no matter what actually happened, burning down your own neighborhood is stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    we are millwall

    super millwall

    no one likes us

    we dont care


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    'Arry Redknapp is bound to arrive and do an interview from his car with his window down.

    'Anyone wanna interview me?'
    'No. F*ck off, Harry'.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Are these rioting types also the sort who demand "my respect yo bitch?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    I feel sorry for the bus.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    They must have been told Robbie keane is staying!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭bayern282


    A pretty horrible area of London, well advised to steer clear apart from match days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Rud


    If you had Defoe and Crouch playing on your team,you'd be pissed off too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭Snacker


    They must have been told Robbie keane is staying!

    Haaaaaaaaaa true. I was actually born and raised in Tottenham moved away good few years ago but there is a fair bit of interracial 'awkwardness' if that makes sense.

    Basically black people feel victimised for years by police and that they're out to get them.

    They actually beheaded a policeman there yonks ago in
    my young days...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadwater_Farm_riot

    Basically like NWA's "F**k tha Police", that kinda craic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Snacker wrote: »
    Haaaaaaaaaa true. I was actually born and raised in Tottenham moved away good few years ago but there is a fair bit of interracial 'awkwardness' if that makes sense.

    Basically black people feel victimised for years by police and that they're out to get them.

    Area is also know for Jews, is that right?

    I seem to remember hearing some Jewish nicknames for their football team

    Sure none more famous then Alan Sugar


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    Snacker wrote: »
    Haaaaaaaaaa true. I was actually born and raised in Tottenham moved away good few years ago but there is a fair bit of interracial 'awkwardness' if that makes sense.

    Basically black people feel victimised for years by police and that they're out to get them.

    They actually beheaded a policeman there yonks ago in
    my young days...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadwater_Farm_riot

    Basically like NWA's "F**k tha Police", that kinda craic.

    Yeah you'd wonder why the police don't like them....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Keith_Blakelock

    Sounds more like Mogadishu.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭Snacker


    mikemac wrote: »
    Area is also know for Jews, is that right?

    I seem to remember hearing some Jewish nicknames for their football team

    Clapton is full of them, guessing maybe two or three miles away. The ones that dress in suits, go around in swarms and never cut their hair.

    There's prob a few jews around alright but the area has gone to the dogs in recent years so they may have moved on a bit.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Mr. Denton wrote: »
    Yeah you'd wonder why the police don't like them....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Keith_Blakelock

    Sounds more like Mogadishu.

    That is f*cking horrendous :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Presumably the met will drip feed the press a diet of disinformation and speculation until the truth eventually limps quietly out, a la de menzies

    What is it about those wacky london coppers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭chasm


    bayern282 wrote: »
    A pretty horrible area of London, well advised to steer clear apart from match days.

    I lived there in the 90's for a few years, match days were the worst! I suppose working in a pub didnt help though!
    mikemac wrote: »
    Area is also know for Jews, is that right?

    I seem to remember hearing some Jewish nicknames for their football team

    Sure none more famous then Alan Sugar

    Stamford Hill, just up the road from tottenham had a large Jewish community.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    whats a petrol car :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Bambi wrote: »
    Presumably the met will drip feed the press a diet of disinformation and speculation until the truth eventually limps quietly out, a la de menzies

    What is it about those wacky london coppers?

    The London coppers? What about the Birmingham and Guildford ones? Anyone who believes anything coming from the cops in situations like this goes down a lot in my estimation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Watching it on BBC now. Could not help noticing some bloke who was holding a baby. Ok thats normal and good parenting its 1am at night and there is a riot and he is standing there with a feckn baby. :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Just wondering, were rangers in London today to play chelsea?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    anyone know of any webcams?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    I do like AH UK :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Saila wrote: »
    whats a petrol car :confused:
    Patrol cars = police cars


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