London and UK riots (started in Tottenham 10:30PM, 6th Aug)

J. Marston · 10-08-2011 3:13am

That Sangat channel said 2 brothers have died, that's awful.

Revolution9 · 10-08-2011 3:15am

Someone said that the two people who were killed (who Sangat just said were brothers) were not rioters or looters, but locals trying to fight off the rioters. Is there any source for that?

h2005 · 10-08-2011 3:16am

cocoshovel wrote: »

1992 riots were far worse than the usual superbowl ones.

I know just pointing out riots are far from uncommon in the U.S.

Jayob10 · 10-08-2011 3:16am

Laika1986 wrote: »

It's more widespread in a nutshell

is it really more widespread though? London is alot quieter by all accounts, although their are flash mobs in other cities but not as crazy as last night

I think there are alot of folks on here almost willing for their to be more "action".

The increased police presence has had an effect. They are still pretty useless but sheer numbers has made it difficult for looters to operate.

Hank Scorpio · 10-08-2011 3:17am

Revolution9 wrote: »

Someone said that the two people who were killed (who Sangat just said were brothers) were not rioters or looters, but locals trying to fight off the rioters. Is there any source for that?

sangat tv live

Happyman42 · 10-08-2011 3:18am

Revolution9 wrote: »

Someone said that the two people who were killed (who Sangat just said were brothers) were not rioters or looters, but locals trying to fight off the rioters. Is there any source for that?

No source yet. BBC, SKY have not picked it up yet.

Revolution9 · 10-08-2011 3:18am

nuxxx wrote: »

sangat tv live

Ah, I'm watching it but only found a working stream there a few minutes ago, must have missed it.

Hank Scorpio · 10-08-2011 3:19am

Jayob10 wrote: »

I think there are alot of folks on here almost willing for their to be more "action".

The live reporting showed some pretty shocking stuff tonight tbh, in the public media though it seems as if things are calming down abit

Da Shins Kelly · 10-08-2011 3:20am

Revolution9 wrote: »

Someone said that the two people who were killed (who Sangat just said were brothers) were not rioters or looters, but locals trying to fight off the rioters. Is there any source for that?

nuxxx wrote: »

sangat tv live

If this is true, it's absolutely appalling. People are out of their f*cking minds. By the way (may have been mentioned already), but the two kids were brothers. Terribly, terribly sad. This is all just making me so angry.

Hank Scorpio · 10-08-2011 3:20am

Revolution9 wrote: »

Ah, I'm watching it but only found a working stream there a few minutes ago, must have missed it.

the brothers, brother was shown live breaking down outside the hospital and the reporter broke into tears and killed the camera, was really intence, was loads of non rioters outside too, might setoff a huge revolt against the scum.

joseph brand · 10-08-2011 3:22am

car accident deaths mentioned on twitter

http://twitter.com/#!/search/birmingham

Revolution9 · 10-08-2011 3:22am

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

If this is true, it's absolutely appalling. People are out of their f*cking minds. By the way (may have been mentioned already), but the two kids were brothers. Terribly, terribly sad. This is all just making me so angry.

:eek:
Missed that too, about how old are we talking here?

Ouijaboard · 10-08-2011 3:23am

Jayob10 wrote: »

is it really more widespread though? London is alot quieter by all accounts, although their are flash mobs in other cities but not as crazy as last night

I think there are alot of folks on here almost willing for their to be more "action".

The increased police presence has had an effect. They are still pretty useless but sheer numbers has made it difficult for looters to operate.

London should be, if 16K cops can't hold it together then they've got serious issues. Random opportunistic looting and trashing of various other locations going on but it seems to be half-hearted, last sting of a dying wasp sort of stuff.

I don't think we are willing on the action but it has become something like car crash tv over the past night or so and now it's been dampened down suddenly. We know sky etc, they would try have blanket coverage of street urination if they could get away with it.

The big question I'm wondering now is what happens when it is not possible to keep 16k cops on the streets of london, which will happen soon enough...does it start again then?

Jayob10 · 10-08-2011 3:23am

nuxxx wrote: »

The live reporting showed some pretty shocking stuff tonight tbh, in the public media though it seems as if things are calming down abit

either theres not enough "action" for sky to show it, or else police have enforced it upon them not to show the riots and looting for fear of more copycat attacks.

I for one don't think any laws have been passed in the UK overnight restricting the media the right to freedom of speech, and further to that I don't think sky give 2 f*cks if there are copycat attacks. They are chasing ratings.

I'm guessing London is a safer place tonight (thank god) due to the increased presence of police. And the police have things under control elsewhere minus the odd flashpoint.

Amirani · 10-08-2011 3:23am

Revolution9 wrote: »

:eek:
Missed that too, about how old are we talking here?

Mid 20s I think.

jd007 · 10-08-2011 3:24am

Road traffic collision confirmed here.... https://twitter.com/#!/WMPolice

Nothing mentioned about deaths or that its involved with the riots yet though

amacachi · 10-08-2011 3:25am

Jayob10 wrote: »

is it really more widespread though? London is alot quieter by all accounts, although their are flash mobs in other cities but not as crazy as last night

I think there are alot of folks on here almost willing for their to be more "action".

The increased police presence has had an effect. They are still pretty useless but sheer numbers has made it difficult for looters to operate.

Yes it is more widespread. It's very hard to gauge just how much is going on right now though.

Degag · 10-08-2011 3:26am

cougar1 wrote: »

What the hell is going on with the bbc/sky over the past few hours? Have they really been censored from providing live feeds? I thought that was a joke! The are still replaying reports from 8 o clock last evening...not one live camera anywhere, this is ridiculous!

Yes, i magine they are not going in for their own safety or were told by the police not to. Obviously correct, but it doesn't appease the voyuer in me!

Ouijaboard · 10-08-2011 3:26am

This Sangat tv is a bit mental, everytime I turn it on they are praying or talking some rubbish, then something dramatic happens (which we all miss) and it's back to praying and talking crap as if dramatic event never happened?

mikemac · 10-08-2011 3:27am

Come on Sky
I'm watching videos I saw hours ago and that video that was on facebook yesterday
And now interviews from this afternoon

You'd learn more from boards then Sky News

Jayob10 · 10-08-2011 3:27am

amacachi wrote: »

Yes it is more widespread. It's very hard to gauge just how much is going on right now though.

may i ask how you know this exactly apart from mere speculation?

News agencies are not reporting it, so we have no way of possibly knowing.

I reckon if there was widespread violence and carnage then sky would be all over it like a rash.

Reiss Avfc · 10-08-2011 3:27am

going to birmingham tomorrow, everyone get pressing this button please!
http://make-everything-ok.com/

Bodhisopha · 10-08-2011 3:28am

I fear for Birmingham after the death of those two Asian brothers.

Da Shins Kelly · 10-08-2011 3:28am

Revolution9 wrote: »

:eek:
Missed that too, about how old are we talking here?

I'm saying 'kids', as in they were young people. They weren't middle-aged or elderly.

amacachi · 10-08-2011 3:30am

Jayob10 wrote: »

may i ask how you know this exactly apart from mere speculation?

News agencies are not reporting it, so we have no way of possibly knowing.

I reckon if there was widespread violence and carnage then sky would be all over it like a rash.

Birmingham confirmed, Manchester and Salford confirmed, Gloucester confirmed, Liverpool confirmed, Police station in Nottingham (I think) firebombed, London quiet but bits and pieces here and there. It has spread to previously unaffected areas, which has been confirmed if you wish to check around.

Jayob10 · 10-08-2011 3:30am

Bodhisopha wrote: »

I fear for Birmingham after the death of those two Asian brothers.

ok does anyone know the specific story about these Asian brothers?

nobody knows if they were even looters themselves surely?

Reiss Avfc · 10-08-2011 3:30am

I'll be sure to keep you all posted if anything happens around where i'm staying, most of my family live only like a 5 minute drive from aston!

Revolution9 · 10-08-2011 3:31am

I can only imagine the Beeb and Sky have been advised to not show live feeds or anything like that by the police or the government. Probably in their best interests too. If the apparent scene of the brother's reaction to the death of his two siblings was shown live on either of the stations they would probably be awash with complaints.

KeithAFC · 10-08-2011 3:31am

Bodhisopha wrote: »

I fear for Birmingham after the death of those two Asian brothers.

Why? You aren't saying it will turn into a war are you?

Jayob10 · 10-08-2011 3:32am

amacachi wrote: »

Birmingham confirmed, Manchester and Salford confirmed, Gloucester confirmed, Liverpool confirmed, Police station in Nottingham (I think) firebombed, London quiet but bits and pieces here and there. It has spread to previously unaffected areas, which has been confirmed if you wish to check around.

confirmed where?

You think a police station in Nottingham was firebombed??

good god

some people are still looking for their fix by the looks of things.

London and UK riots (started in Tottenham 10:30PM, 6th Aug)

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