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London and UK riots (started in Tottenham 10:30PM, 6th Aug)
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I haven't read all this thread as its far too long. But, being from the UK originally (and lived there for 35 yrs), what I'm seeing on the tv isn't really all that surprising. Or rather, it is suprising, but not who I'm seeing doing it and where it's happening.
All the talk of the 'community leaders' explaining why it is happening is utter bull5h1t. The people commiting these acts are scum, and most always will be. Blaming it on unemployment is complete bo77ox. Most the people looting have never worked and never will. No matter what charities are set up, no matter how much money is invested. They all just wanna live like puff father and 50 cent. I lived amongst these people all my life, I went to school with them (in a **** hole school), and I lived in their neighboorhoods. Working 9 to 5 in an honest job wont get them what they want. They have no interest in going to uni for 4 yrs and getting a degree so they can earn 50k plus. They want it now and they want it for free. Don't kid yourselves with the theories of unemployment and poor prospects, or run down neighboorhoods. These people are the reasons the neighboorhoods are run down to start with, they make them that way. There are areas of Birmingham where you just DO NOT GO. Handsworth is one of them, the place is a hell hole, so is Smethwick, West Bromwich, and many other areas of Birmingham. I lived 7 miles outside of Birmingham myself, and around 5 miles from Wolverhampton (another shat hole).
Some people will undoubtedly not like what I've said, and that I'm generalising etc etc. Nonsence, its a fact. Forget the studies, forget the statistics, when you live amongst the scum for long enough, then you'll see what the real problem is.
As for the question of immigration raised by someone else somewhere in the thread. I can tell you that it is a HUGE problem. My mom and dad still live in our family where they have been for 32 yrs. When I was a nipper, the street was full of old people and you could hear a pin drop. Gradually the old people have died and new families have moved in. A good proportion of these are Pakistani immigrants. Most of them work as taxi drivers or have a shop (not stereotyping, they do), so they are not unemployed. They have turned the street into a dump. The gardens are overgrown, the fences are all falling down, rubbish in the street. They walk along the street spitting. My mom always made an effort to be friendly and say hello, most would never even answer her, she doesn't bother anymore. I have seen street after street in the area I lived turn this way, unemployment has nothing to do with it. Areas with houses that were once worth considerable money, now not fit for rats.
In my parents street, 1 pakistani family originally moved in, it was a council property (as was around half the street), when the next house became empty, they somehow got this house too. It remained empty for sometime before some of their relatives moved into it, none of whom could speak english as they had just arrived in the country. The same thing happened when the next house became available. This goes on all across the UK. I don't know how they do it but they do.
I may be coming across as racist, and may offend people, but I'm just stating what happens as witnessed by myself. It's not a clouded view, it's the truth.
The main reason I came to Ireland with my family was a better up bringing for my kids in a place where they could safely go out in the street and play, go to a school where they wouldn't be one of the only white kids and be held back as most of the class couldn't speak english very well.
Without being rasist, most of the rioters are black, like it or not, its the truth, it can be seen by us all on the tv. The areas where a large proportion of black people live in the UK are no go areas. Handsworth in Birmingham is 1. You take your life in your hands walking through an area like that.
I'm not a racist, 2 of my best friends who I would spend most of my time with when I was at school weren't white, 1 was black and the other was Indian, 2 great lads who I had some good times with. But the fact is that the majority of people involved in the looting in these areas are black, and to be honest, it comes as no suprise to me at all. These days it's not possible to say these things without causing an uproar and being branded a racist pig. Even the chief of police in London once said a few yrs back that 95% of muggings in the London borough were committed by black youths, he didn't keep his job for long after that, but he was merely telling the truth.
The press in the UK are often not allowed to state the colour of a persons skin when issueing a description of a suspect, as it causes negative images for people if the suspect is not white. This is insane.
There's only 1 way to stop the riots and looting, and thats by force. I would like to see the troops on the street asap and put a stop to it. David Cameron has said that water canons can be used if requested with 24hr notice
what use is this. If a riot and looting is occuring, the police can put in a call and a water canon will turn up 24hrs later, it's laughable. He's merely trying to act tough, the reality is he's affraid of the backlash from the human rights lawyers and do gooders. F&*k the human rights, if they're out doing this, they aint human and should be treated accordingly.
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