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London and UK riots (started in Tottenham 10:30PM, 6th Aug)

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    #5222
    3ndahalfof6
    Registered Users Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Wertz wrote: »
    you're like a broken record....or maybe a scratched one. Music has f*ck all to do with this...

    so why did they attack the music stores?


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    #5223
    frser32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭frser32


    just wondering does anyone know are things calm in the city centre? Or is there similar looting taking place still?


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    #5224
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    They've been trying to address the real problem for the last 20 odd years with left-wing solutions. It hasn't worked. Perhaps a fresh approach might bring results.

    Exactly. The carrot didn't work, it's time for the stick.


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    #5225
    sunflower27
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    3ndahalfof6 wrote: »
    so why did they attack the music stores?

    Why did people steal Tesco-brand rice?

    Because it was there.


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    #5226
    A Primal Nut
    Registered Users Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Watching a debate on CNN. Not much solutions by the left wing to these issues. Just keep talking about how these people are marginalised, criticising social housing for creating ghettos and saying that these people don't fit the regular life.

    But none of them can provide solutions, things the government and society, who they keep blaming, can do.


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    #5227
    recylingbin
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    Wertz wrote: »
    you're like a broken record....or maybe a scratched one. Music has f*ck all to do with this...
    incorrect
    Morrissey has been predicting this **** for years

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AlH2oYedfk


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    #5228
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    3ndahalfof6 wrote: »
    so why did they attack the music stores?


    They attacked all types of shops, if it had something they wanted, they robbed it, as was said, it's nothing to do with music!


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    #5229
    Happyman42
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    They've been trying to address the real problem for the last 20 odd years with left-wing solutions. It hasn't worked. Perhaps a fresh approach might bring results.

    They have been window dressing for the last 20 years and a lot of the blame lies fairly and squarely with Labour. They have let their base down.
    A new and honest approach is definitely needed but I can't see it coming from Cameron & Co. tbh. All they will want is to get the Olympics passed off and profitable.

    I can see this happening bigtime! :D

    http://imgur.com/YER86


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    #5230
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    recylingbin wrote: »
    incorrect
    Morrissey has been predicting this **** for years

    They're not hanging any DJs.
    That'd be the only part of the looter manifesto I'd agree with.


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    #5231
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    They have been window dressing for the last 20 years and a lot of the blame lies fairly and squarely with Labour. They have let their base down.
    A new and honest approach is definitely needed but I can't see it coming from Cameron & Co. tbh. All they will want is to get the Olympics passed off and profitable.

    I can see this happening bigtime! :D

    http://imgur.com/YER86

    Tbh I don't think Miliband will make any difference either. Labour are just the Conservatives in Sheep's clothing.


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    #5232
    3ndahalfof6
    Registered Users Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    sunflower27 wrote: »
    Why did people steal Tesco-brand rice?

    Because it was there.

    Tesco-brand = there

    I like it, Ilike it, I like what you did with that.


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    #5233
    Latchy
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    As has beng mentioned by some in this thread ,the Anti-Hooligan / Vigilanties guys are around in some parts of London and if they have their way , they wont care what colour or creed any looter is or worry to much about kicking their ass .


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    #5234
    recylingbin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    They're not hanging any DJs.
    That'd be the only part of the looter manifesto I'd agree with.

    It's early doors yet.
    We should send Ray Foley over to be a sacrificial lamb as a token of our esteem to our british cousins.


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    #5235
    Predalien
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    They've been trying to address the real problem for the last 20 odd years with left-wing solutions. It hasn't worked. Perhaps a fresh approach might bring results.

    What? Yeah, Thatcher, John Major and New Labour were big on left-wing solutions...


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    #5236
    Knasher
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    3ndahalfof6 wrote: »
    one minute 40/50 cops being charged by 80/100 rioters they do not rush in and drop some of them to the ground continuing to stick it to them,

    so my thinking on the situation is based on all i have seen since it started,

    as in so much how the cops react to things being in their favor,

    they have got the riot gear, they have got the batons, so 50 on 50 they should come out on top, but they would never get involved if the odds are not on their side.

    but this will probably still be the wrong type of thinking.
    It may be because the police aren't idiots. The police are trying to subdue people and not kick the s**t out of them, and the safest way of doing that (for both sides) is when the police can control the situation. Charging into a crowd will do nothing except get a lot of people hurt and maybe killed (on both sides) and incite greater violence.

    Additionally when all this is over they will still have to police these people and any actual brutality will be long remembered and will make there jobs much much harder.
    3ndahalfof6 wrote: »
    then i see 2 guys on bikes 10 cops and the cops charge taking the bikers to the ground and sticking it to them,

    over use of force to me in that particular situation and i wont be able to see it any other way
    Admittedly that video did look a little bit over the top. But then any video showing a group of people out cycling and then being bowled over by police is going to look that way. I have no idea what context that take-down occurred in, what those people were doing before it happened or what harm was done to the rioters (though they did seem to be up and walking around after it). So no matter how you phrase it, I'm not going to start jumping to conclusions and start crying police brutality.


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    #5237
    Yahew
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    Predalien wrote: »
    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    They've been trying to address the real problem for the last 20 odd years with left-wing solutions. It hasn't worked. Perhaps a fresh approach might bring results.

    What? Yeah, Thatcher, John Major and New Labour were big on left-wing solutions...

    The solutions didn't change. Handouts, benefits, housing, softly softly policing.


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    #5238
    Monty Burnz
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    They have been window dressing for the last 20 years and a lot of the blame lies fairly and squarely with Labour. They have let their base down.
    A new and honest approach is definitely needed but I can't see it coming from Cameron & Co. tbh. All they will want is to get the Olympics passed off and profitable.

    They've thrown money and resources at the problem for years. It hasn't worked. Do you propose doubling or tripling the money? Or something else?


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    #5239
    Knasher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    On a different note, why is Cork one of the tags for this thread.

    There are no riots going on down here, honest. This is just how it always looks.


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    #5240
    Wertz
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    3ndahalfof6 wrote: »
    so why did they attack the music stores?

    Because there's expensive elctronic goods or other desirable items in them?

    Or are you talkin about burning down the Sony distribution cnetre?


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    #5241
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Predalien wrote: »
    What? Yeah, Thatcher, John Major and New Labour were big on left-wing solutions...
    What solutions do you propose that haven't been tried before? Bear in mind the proposed solution has to be paid for.


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    #5242
    mikemac
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    recreational rioting is the new term of the month

    I don't know was it just invented or was it around before and I'd never heard of it
    Either way, it's a ridiculous term


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    #5243
    A Primal Nut
    Registered Users Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Predalien wrote: »
    What? Yeah, Thatcher, John Major and New Labour were big on left-wing solutions...

    When it came to dealing with the poorest in society, they were very left-wing. All of Western Europe is.


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    #5244
    Yahew
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    Eltham is apparently EDL


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    #5245
    sunflower27
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    Just checked out the news there and all looks pretty quiet so far.


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    #5246
    tayto lover
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    suspectdevice wrote: »
    no. i'll admit i don't know. it is too early to figure out. they will have to look at the psychology of looting and how it might be indicative of the beaten down lives and having an opportunity for once to access the things that you crave in society but you are deprived access to. they didn't steal basic requirements like food, or the major rich brands like gucci, they have gone after the jd sports and argus products. the ones that are shoved in their face everyday but they cannot attain because they are probably on low wages, if any, and have no means of getting credit


    i know teachers here who have no way out either. but who is to say what sort of nutjob manages to end up in what job. its not the fact that hes a teacher thats disturbing, its the fact that hes 30 odd years old, slipped through the system, concealed his anger and is responsible for kids in his everyday life.



    yeah like all of them committed that crime. and who knows what goes on in these situations. have a look at koreatown in la. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmsKGhLdZuQ&feature=related





    sad that you can't differentiate between someone trying to discuss a matter openly and someone who would condone such disgusting events. i think that says an awful lot more about your poisoned mind that ever does mine
    When you have no answer then attempt to insult the poster. Typical civil liberties shyte again.


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    #5247
    Monty Burnz
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    You can watch Sky News here.


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    #5248
    Happyman42
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    They've thrown money and resources at the problem for years. It hasn't worked. Do you propose doubling or tripling the money? Or something else?

    Money isn't going to be the ultimate solution. Involving all the stakeholders is the only way. And being prepared for it to take several generations as well. It is a complex complex problem and will take a lot of will and effort.
    Anything that involves subduing people by force will only blow up in your face I'm afraid and proof of that is all over the world.
    Today I saw somebody on another forum blowing his trumpet about how Namibian police deal with anybody who puts their heads above the parapet (savagely, by his account) but it had to be pointed out to him that the Namibian murder, rape, robbery rate is way (shockingly) ahead of anywhere else.
    Police force may provide some jack off material for the blood hungry but it won't solve anything.


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    #5249
    Wertz
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    recylingbin wrote: »
    incorrect
    Morrissey has been predicting this **** for years

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AlH2oYedfk

    I'd finally managed to stop humming that on tuesday morning...now it's back in my damn head.

    Just in case you're serious, it was about R1 DJs long before they snapped out of Smashey n Nicey mode...not rave culture.


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    #5250
    Ulysses Gaze
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    Yahew wrote: »
    Eltham is apparently EDL

    Starting pelting stuff at a bus because a couple of black kids "gestured" at them. :rolleyes:

    The EDL will cause more trouble than the rioters! A bunch of pissed-up nutters.


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    #5251
    Da Shins Kelly
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    More Sangat vigilantism tonight hopefully!


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