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London and UK riots (started in Tottenham 10:30PM, 6th Aug)

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    #5312
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Musicmental85 wrote: »
    Hate to be the sceptical type but how would you verify that the site is legit before donating?

    I'd say that when you see the advertising that the people behind it are doing it's unlikely they'd want to bring this much attention to themselves if it wasn't legit.

    https://twitter.com/#!/bjornandsophie


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    #5313
    cocoshovel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    Haha that lad that was just shown on sky being carried away by police looked like about 60.


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    #5314
    Pete M.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    "Images of burning buildings, cars aflame and stripped-out shops may provide spectacular fodder for a restless media, ever hungry for new stories and fresh groups to demonise, but we will understand nothing of these events if we ignore the history and the context in which they occur."

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/08/context-london-riots

    Good article.

    Apparently the broom is now the image of Resistance.

    Against what exactly I wonder?


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    #5315
    Witchie
    Registered Users Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Witchie


    DominoDub wrote: »
    These guys have been collecting evidence on EDL web activity :mad:

    http://twitpic.com/photos/everythingedl

    That makes me feel physically sick. Disgusting. What is wrong with people.


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    #5316
    norris_minor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭norris_minor


    cocoshovel wrote: »
    Haha that lad that was just shown on sky being carried away by police looked like about 60.

    young at heart. down wiv the yoof of today; what piece of sports brand apparel was he wearing?


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    #5317
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Originally Posted by Queen-Mise
    This is the worst video I have seen so far of the riots. Awful

    http://www.facebook.com/video/video....50275696764799
    Menace to society

    ...blah blah

    ...mutter mutter


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    #5318
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Pete M. wrote: »
    "Images of burning buildings, cars aflame and stripped-out shops may provide spectacular fodder for a restless media, ever hungry for new stories and fresh groups to demonise, but we will understand nothing of these events if we ignore the history and the context in which they occur."

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/08/context-london-riots

    Good article.

    Apparently the broom is now the image of Resistance.

    Against what exactly I wonder?

    That article is crap. She says Haringey in tottenham has an unemployment rate of 8.8%, double the national average. The Uk unemployment rate is 7.7%. If it is 8.8% then they are pretty lucky. We would kill for an unemployment rate of 8.8%, its just below half of what ours is. Then she says the richest 10% are 100 times are 100 times better off than the poor. That is just left wing hysteria. Just because the richest 10% are making more money doesnt mean the poorest are not. The gap is widening but the poor are not getting poorer.


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    #5319
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Pete M. wrote: »
    "Images of burning buildings, cars aflame and stripped-out shops may provide spectacular fodder for a restless media, ever hungry for new stories and fresh groups to demonise, but we will understand nothing of these events if we ignore the history and the context in which they occur."

    This is true, but I presume - without reading it - there follows an analysis that requires even more money and resources to be supplied to the chavs who can't be arsed to do anything for themselves.

    I'd love to be wrong.

    Ok, I read it - no solutions offered at all, but bleating about 'inequality'. Solution: make everyone poor?


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    #5320
    marcsignal
    Registered Users Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8Ue3Fg5BaI


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    #5321
    K-9
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    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    That is just left wing hysteria. Just because the richest 10% are making more money doesnt mean the poorest are not. The gap is widening but the poor are not getting poorer.

    What?


    Blame left wing all you want.

    Right wing focusing on greed and money is the problem. I thought wealth filtered down?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #5322
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    I think I've been watching too much Sangat TV.

    I'm torn between wanting to buy a sofa and getting some buttered ghee.

    Sooner these riots are over, the better!


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    #5323
    Witchie
    Registered Users Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Witchie


    I love the music for the ad for Photo Shop. Wanna go get some pictures framed there now.


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    #5324
    Pete M.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    This is true, but I presume - without reading it - there follows an analysis that requires even more money and resources to be supplied to the chavs who can't be arsed to do anything for themselves.

    I'd love to be wrong.

    Ok, I read it - no solutions offered at all, but bleating about 'inequality'. Solution: make everyone poor?

    Share the resources available amoungst everyone.
    There's more than enough to go round you know.
    Obviously there are no simple solutions.
    The occurrences of the last few days shouldn't surprise anyone.
    'Bleating' about inequality?
    So how does one discuss the obvious inequality in British society without it being labelled bleating?
    There is an elite, who are defended by those who would like to be amoungst their ranks. They should have their wealth removed from them as they obtained it through deception and unfair means.

    The coming insurrection shall take many different guises...

    And no, just because I'm not shocked by it doesn't mean I condone it either.
    I'm just not surprised.


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    #5325
    Tails142
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    I dont know what I would do with a 1kg tub of butter ghee


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    #5326
    Pete M.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    Tails142 wrote: »
    I dont know what I would do with a 1kg tub of butter ghee

    Tasty lube?


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    #5327
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Pete M. wrote: »
    Share the resources available amoungst everyone.
    There's more than enough to go round you know.
    Obviously there are no simple solutions.
    The occurrences of the last few days shouldn't surprise anyone.
    'Bleating' about inequality?
    So how does one discuss the obvious inequality in British society without it being labelled bleating?
    There is an elite, who are defended by those who would like to be amoungst their ranks. They should have their wealth removed from them as they obtained it through deception and unfair means.

    The coming insurrection shall take many different guises...

    And no, just because I'm not shocked by it doesn't mean I condone it either.
    I'm just not surprised.

    Could it happen in Ireland?


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    #5328
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Tails142 wrote: »
    I dont know what I would do with a 1kg tub of butter ghee

    Well if the KTC ad is to be believed, and there's nothing to suggest it shouldn't be, you could use it to make a load of sweet things to eat.


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    #5329
    Monty Burnz
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    K-9 wrote: »
    What?


    Blame left wing all you want.

    Right wing focusing on greed and money is the problem. I thought wealth filtered down?

    It does. Which is why people can afford to never work a day in their lives, yet still organise riots on their Blackberries. Do you think the poor were better off 50 years ago, or 100, or 500? All their material needs are catered for courtesy of the taxpayer.

    Seriously, this 'poor are getting poorer' hogwash might have persuaded people 100 years ago, but it doesn't stand up to any analysis at all.


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    #5330
    Pete M.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Could it happen in Ireland?

    Mais oui...


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    #5331
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Pete M. wrote: »
    Share the resources available amoungst everyone.
    There's more than enough to go round you know.
    Obviously there are no simple solutions.
    The occurrences of the last few days shouldn't surprise anyone.
    'Bleating' about inequality?
    So how does one discuss the obvious inequality in British society without it being labelled bleating?

    Discuss it all you like, but stop begging the question that 'inequality' is the problem. Would it be better if everyone was poor, as under a communist system? (well, of course the party hierarchy would be rich)
    Pete M. wrote: »
    There is an elite, who are defended by those who would like to be amoungst their ranks. They should have their wealth removed from them as they obtained it through deception and unfair means.
    Or, more usually, through hard work and talent. I don't want to be rich - I'm not very materialistic. I'd rather be educated than rich.
    Pete M. wrote: »
    The coming insurrection shall take many different guises...

    And no, just because I'm not shocked by it doesn't mean I condone it either.
    I'm just not surprised.
    Me neither. It seems handing these people everything they need for generations and expecting nothing back isn't working very well. Time for a new approach.


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    #5332
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    K-9 wrote: »
    What?


    Blame left wing all you want.

    Right wing focusing on greed and money is the problem. I thought wealth filtered down?

    The money has filtered down. Thats why they have social welfare and a free health system an just because Lord Sugar is making more money doesnt mean John Smith should get more money for doing nothing.


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    #5333
    johnny_cash
    Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭johnny_cash


    I was looking at the news but haven't seen anything about riots tonight have they stopped?


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    #5334
    Ulysses Gaze
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    EDL attacked the police in Eltham. Threw bottles at riot police.

    As I said earlier, worse scumbags than any rioter.


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    #5335
    J. Marston
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    Has it calmed down tonight?


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    #5336
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    It does. Which is why people can afford to never work a day in their lives, yet still organise riots on their Blackberries. Do you think the poor were better off 50 years ago, or 100, or 500? All their material needs are catered for courtesy of the taxpayer.

    Seriously, this 'poor are getting poorer' hogwash might have persuaded people 100 years ago, but it doesn't stand up to any analysis at all.

    Of course not, they can watch Somalia on their new 32" Tv's. It's all relative.

    They want the latest iPod. Sure Irish people wanted a 3 bed semi for 400k 2 hours away from work and paid it.

    The papers and FF told them.

    Now they want a NAMA for the little people.

    Meanwhile the Directors sun themselves in Barbados and who cares?

    Don Draper is laughing his arse off.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #5337
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    I think I've been watching too much Sangat TV.

    I'm torn between wanting to buy a sofa and getting some buttered ghee.

    Sooner these riots are over, the better!

    Could you not combine the two?

    I love having some ghee on my sofa!


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    #5338
    Pete M.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Discuss it all you like, but stop begging the question that 'inequality' is the problem. Would it be better if everyone was poor, as under a communist system? (well, of course the party hierarchy would be rich)

    Jaysus, does it always have to go back to Soviet Russia every time somebody suggests a socialist alternative?:(

    We need a new socialism which has learnt from the mistakes of the past and takes from the beneficial elements developed over the past number of years.

    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Or, more usually, through hard work and talent. I don't want to be rich - I'm not very materialistic. I'd rather be educated than rich.

    Me too. I have my young buck (6) going round saying 'mo money, mo problems'. Education is key. Which is why the privatisation of education, as seen recently in the UK is very worrying indeed.
    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Me neither. It seems handing these people everything they need for generations and expecting nothing back isn't working very well. Time for a new approach.

    Absol-fcuking-loutely.

    This underbelly of society which is responsible for all the looting and bad behavior has been created by the current system, therefore we need to try something else and not to be fooled into thinking that there is no alternative.


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    #5339
    KyussBishop
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    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/09/article-0-0D5C421400000578-88_634x663.jpg


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    #5340
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    K-9 wrote: »
    Of course not, they can watch Somalia on their new 32" Tv's. It's all relative.
    I don't think they are as interested in the genuinely poor as the hard left are in them. Tough choice: watch X-Factor, or CNN.
    K-9 wrote: »
    They want the latest iPod. Sure Irish people wanted a 3 bed semi for 400k 2 hours away from work and paid it.

    The papers and FF told them.
    Yeah - 'I want a house, and I don't want to spend ten minutes looking at the sums, so just charge me what you like, I'll beg the bank for it'.
    K-9 wrote: »
    Now they want a NAMA for the little people.
    'The bank forced me to take the money. I had nothing to do with this.'
    K-9 wrote: »
    Meanwhile the Directors sun themselves in Barbados and who cares?
    Certainly not the incompetent directors. Golden parachutes all around.


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    #5341
    norris_minor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭norris_minor


    Classic case of the more things available to em, the greedier they get. The rise of the west via capitalism really has produced a new form of degenerate in a society with no real values. I've found burmese and naga folk are generally really amiable people with a strong moral code, with amazing etiquette; we are unfortunately positioned in just taking a lead from the UK/US in producing greedy marauding yobs and ogres who discuss tiger kidnappings and ram raids over a few tinnies and a few lines, almost exclusively to the sound of rave and hip hop. fact.


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