London and UK riots (started in Tottenham 10:30PM, 6th Aug)

biddyteabags

This isn't going to end well. If they keep starting fires in buildings somebody innocent is going to die.

Wertz

Re: blackberry messenger...Not like they couldn't do it with a load of texts anyhow.

Say what you like about the criminality and opportunistic trainer shopping, but this could well be one of those moments of societal breakdown with a huge groundswell that grows and grows...the anger against the police, right or wrong is palpable...corporate franchises being looted could also be seen as sticking it to "the man"...the bonus being some new threads...not trying to justify it, but I'm certainly not going to dismiss it as mere thuggery with materialistic motives.

Richard Hillman

mikemac wrote: »

I wonder how Indymedia are going to spin this one

Don't think I'll read it as I already know the answer and it'll only make me angry

Innocent teenagers defend themselves against evil racist right-wing police death squads

mossyc123

who the fug wrote: »

SOME people

True it's some people, a minority.

I was making the point that the people from this area can't blame "lack of facilities/opportunities".

On the scale of Urban deprivation it is a paradise compared to many parts of The US, Europe, etc.

DOC09UNAM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

WTF is the guy on the right doing?

Dummy?

jees, on BBC, looks like a whole strip of road is on fire

Latchy

BBBC tv news ....man shot in Leeds ....stand off with police and mob in Birmingham

who the fug

Kiera wrote: »

No way, they'd kill the poor dogs.

Bugger, one dead dog the red tops will never shut up

Biggins

mike65 wrote: »

Helpful leaflet for troublemakers

Charming. :mad:

starviewadams

Police closing all petrol station's in Hackney and Lewisham according to Twitter

Jelle1880

Jake1 wrote: »

jees, on BBC, looks like a whole strip of road is on fire

It is, and the fire brigade can't come close because they'll just be attacked.
And since the cops aren't doing anything...

On second though, maybe they should send in the fire brigade and wash the scum away.

pragmatic1

It'll be some craic if the army are called in.

Guy:Incognito

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

WTF is the guy on the right doing?

Looking to buy weed from some working class people?

Mushy

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

WTF is the guy on the right doing?

That fight scene between the MAfia and Yakuza in The Simpsons comes to mind....when cameras left he was brilliant.

KeithAFC

David Cameron still on holiday lol. What on earth is he doing.

Mr. Denton

Anyone know the name of the Hackney Street BBC24 have been focusing on for the past 15mins or so?

mikemac

What BBC are people watching?

I only have BBC One and Two and it's the standard schedule


edit: no sooner do I ask it's answered by Mr. Denton above

oppenheimer1

The mobile phone network is now down in south London according to the West Londoner. Illford town centre is now in lockdown too.

My name is URL

The media should be blacked out until things are brought under control. I'd say the attention this is getting worldwide is a driving force behind the continued violence. And for all anyone knows, there's a group of people sitting in watching TV and giving the heads up to those on the street.

Biggins

Mr. Denton wrote: »

Anyone know the name of the Hackney Street BBC24 have been focusing on for the past 15mins or so?

Its either Mare Street or Fromptom St probably.

Latchy

Mr. Denton wrote: »

Anyone know the name of the Hackney Street BBC24 have been focusing on for the past 15mins or so?

mikemac wrote: »

What BBC are people watching?

I only have BBC One and Two and it's the standard schedule

I'm in uk now watching it all on bbc news 24 channel which is beaming live pictures from Hackney and Peckham while giving updates of what's happening elsewhere .

Yahew

Wertz wrote: »

Re: blackberry messenger...Not like they couldn't do it with a load of texts anyhow.

Say what you like about the criminality and opportunistic trainer shopping, but this could well be one of those moments of societal breakdown with a huge groundswell that grows and grows...the anger against the police, right or wrong is palpable...corporate franchises being looted could also be seen as sticking it to "the man"...the bonus being some new threads...not trying to justify it, but I'm certainly not going to dismiss it as mere thuggery with materialistic motives.

The idea that the black London criminal underclass is anti-materialistic anti-capitalists would be a be misleading. In mostly middle class Bristol, a few angry hippies rioted over the very existence of a Tesco chain. They didn't loot it.

In any case the real rioters should be the middle income groups. The idea that the eternal underclasses are oppressed by capitalism or work is nonsense. They are molly coddled by socialism. They dont touch work. If they make money it is criminal entrepreneurialism. Technically are petit-bourgreois criminals.

RobitTV

Back in Birmingham, reports suggest people are smashing windows on a street between the Bullring Shopping Centre and the West Midlands Police HQ.

thee glitz

Mr. Denton wrote: »

Anyone know the name of the Hackney Street BBC24 have been focusing on for the past 15mins or so?

Sky are covering Mare Street.

Mint Sauce

Anyway of watching coverage on line, the advertised live coverage on the bbc website, is infact recorded coverage on a loop.

Sky.com keeps telling me to download silverlight or what ever its called. I assume you also have to be a sky customer.

djrichard

Id say call in the army with a load of tanks and APCs. Either that or its time the Police used much more force and started firing rubber bullets and water cannons. That will disperse them. Scumbags just looking for a reason to cause trouble and to take the opportunity to steal from shops etc.

Biggins

irish-stew wrote: »

Anyway of watching coverage on line, the advertised live coverage on the bbc website, is infact recorded coverage on a loop.

Sky.com keeps telling me to download silverlight or what ever its called. I assume you also have to be a sky customer.

Silverlight is a Microsoft product.
Its used for interactive features sometimes as well as video streaming.
(Will become less needed when HTML5 becomes more available to the public soon)

My name is URL

irish-stew wrote: »

Anyway of watching coverage on line, the advertised live coverage on the bbc website, is infact recorded coverage on a loop.

Sky.com keeps telling me to download silverlight or what ever its called. I assume you also have to be a sky customer.

http://myiplayer.com/home.php

Second Sky News link at the bottom of the page works. You need to disable Ad Blocker.

Latchy

My name is URL wrote: »

The media should be blacked out until things are brought under control. I'd say the attention this is getting worldwide is a driving force behind the continued violence. And for all anyone knows, there's a group of people sitting in watching TV and giving the heads up to those on the street.

Anarchists and others who want to see society in chaos .

wild_cat

irish-stew wrote: »

Sky.com keeps telling me to download silverlight or what ever its called. I assume you also have to be a sky customer.

Just full screen the coverage in the box on the left hand side. They usually don't have the live feed on the main page. But they do this time. No need to download silver light.