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London and UK riots (started in Tottenham 10:30PM, 6th Aug)

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    #1202
    positron
    Registered Users Posts: 6,367 ✭✭✭positron


    CiaranMT wrote: »
    WHERE ARE THE F*CKING PARENTS?

    I've asked that very same question many times over here in Ireland too - the scums hanging around outside estates/shops causing trouble - everytime someone tells me 'ah they are just kids', I want to show them what their 'kids' are capable of.


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    #1203
    ascanbe
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    CorkMan wrote: »
    Glad my thread has so many views :D

    Well at least someone appreciates the rioters work :D


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    #1204
    OPENROAD
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    I don't believe anyone is saying these riots reflect the views of all black people at all. Only the mindless few, who feel they are somehow doing a great service to the memory of the murdered man involved.


    However, it is naive to say there is no racial aspect to this at all. Would you say the same about the Rodney King riots? Again, those riots were carried out by a largely African American contingent too?

    Totally disagree, if it was a case that it was only black people involved you could possibly make an argument, but it is not.


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    #1205
    Professional Griefer
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    So much better than Sky News, Al Jazeera Link

    The scenes are absolutely shocking.


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    #1206
    Biggins
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    foxinsox wrote: »
    I've seen that Ladbrokes TV so much now...

    I'd nearly hand them a screwdriver at this stage! :p
    I want to know the make of the fixture that holding it.
    Now THATS a fixture that would be well recommended! :o


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    #1207
    ItsAWindUp
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    I wonder are they gonna take a trip down to Buckingham Palace?


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    #1208
    amacachi
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    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    Me too, but what can they do? You can't arrest and move 300 people. If they move against them in one place the rioters and looters just break up, run, regroup and then hit somewhere else.

    This is some Vietnam ****.

    Horses and batons.
    Even if it just moves things along each time the numbers will fall step-by-step.
    Even if it just prevents fires and looting in a few how is that not better than letting it continue with prosecutions supposedly coming later?


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    #1209
    robinph
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    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    Can't do that, many people have mobiles not landlines. How are residents supposed to contact emergency services etc?

    Emergency services are not responding anyway. To cut the land lines would be considered an essential service, but I don't think they have mobile networks classed as essential. Useful yes, but very unreliable.


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    #1210
    scopper
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    amacachi wrote: »
    What's going on now could easily be called "terrorism" in the UK and the army could be deployed immediately.

    In the heat of the moment perhaps, but fortunately most Western democratic countries know to hold to the proper definition. What we have are large riots and looting. Not terrorism. Hence police and no army.


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    #1211
    Absurdum
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    I'm pretty certain that the sight of the army cracking skulls and probably killing people would have a very detrimental effect on the situation. I'd love to see these ***** getting nuked but let's not get carried away. It's not total chaos and anarchy across the UK, it's because there are a zillion people tweeting, texting, taking pics, videos, etc. that makes it seem worse.


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    #1212
    Mr. Denton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    alie wrote: »
    There are queues of looters outside shops!

    Only in Britain will you get a queue of looters. They're so polite. :pac:


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    #1213
    Kiwi_knock
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    Fair play to the lads looting the fancy suit stores, at least they will not be wearing trackies and trainers for their court appearances.


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    #1214
    Brain Stroking
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    Absurdum wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with it. You think these people get angry watching Bloomberg??

    I completely agree with Queen Mise on this one. These people may not be watching Bloomberg but the stories on Bloomberg seep down to the lowest classes in society. These are people who have no money and no way to progress out of their situation. Why would these young people aim to go to college when there is no point. They cant afford it and the cuts are severely limiting college options. Why would they look for work when there is no work to be gotten? Their situation is hopeless and i think that the Duggan issue lit the touchpaper really.
    What is happening now is brazen criminality and should be condemned. But there are forces driving this and simply saying "scumbags" is ignoring the problem.


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    #1215
    paconnors
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    just on twitter breaking into london zoo letting out animals now,


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    #1216
    -Kenny-
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    alie wrote: »
    There are queues of looters outside shops!


    "OI mate, there better be that 52' LCD TV I had dibs on in there!"

    "Sorry Tommy , its already in the van, how about this nice kettle? "


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    #1217
    mickydoomsux
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    CiaranMT wrote: »
    WHERE ARE THE F*CKING PARENTS?

    Scum breeds scum.

    Even moreso when the state sponsors it.


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    #1218
    Richard Hillman
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    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    I wonder are they gonna take a trip down to Buckingham Palace?

    I would imagine Prince Phillip would have a few first choice words for them before he picks them all off with his rifle :D


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    #1219
    Nation 98
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    And these are basically the same working class lads that are hailed as heroes for bombing and murdering hundreds of people when they're fighting wars in foreign countries. Yet they break a few windows and set a few buildings on fire and they're barbarians.


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    #1220
    KeithAFC
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    The problem is so much is happening and the police is really stretched, that people are now taking part in fantasies like letting lions out of a zoo.


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    #1221
    foxinsox
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    paconnors wrote: »
    just on twitter breaking into london zoo letting out animals now,

    Oh.. I'd love to see them try get near the cuddly lions and tigers! :D


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    #1222
    amacachi
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    scopper wrote: »
    In the heat of the moment perhaps, but fortunately most Western democratic countries know to hold to the proper definition. What we have are large riots and looting. Not terrorism. Hence police and no army.

    I assume the UK only does so on the mainland then.


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    #1223
    North_West_Art
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    They say that every society is only three meals away from revolution. Deprive a culture of food for three meals, and you'll have anarchy.


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    #1224
    bnt
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    You plonkers have got it all wrong, right? I mean, this is just the start of the Olympic Torch procession, innit? Like, you put the fire in my hand, damn right I'm gonna use it! Booyakasha!

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #1225
    ItsAWindUp
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    paconnors wrote: »
    just on twitter breaking into london zoo letting out animals now,

    Surely this is a joke?:eek:


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    #1226
    Mr. Denton
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    North_West_Art wrote: »
    They say that every society is only three meals away from revolution. Deprive a culture of food for three meals, and you'll have anarchy.

    In that case let's pray that KFC stays open.


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    #1227
    positron
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    Nation 98 wrote: »
    And these are basically the same working class lads that are hailed as heroes for bombing and murdering hundreds of people when they're fighting wars in foreign countries. Yet they break a few windows and set a few buildings on fire and they're barbarians.

    Oh my effing god! /facepalm!


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    #1228
    scopper
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    amacachi wrote: »
    I assume the UK only does so on the mainland then.

    Em, yes. Exactly. Now you are getting it.


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    #1229
    Biggins
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    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    I wonder are they gonna take a trip down to Buckingham Palace?
    You can be sure on the remoteness of that happening, the army would be called out to protect them!


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    #1230
    mickydoomsux
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    Nation 98 wrote: »
    And these are basically the same working class lads that are hailed as heroes for bombing and murdering hundreds of people when they're fighting wars in foreign countries. Yet they break a few windows and set a few buildings on fire and they're barbarians.

    AHAHAAHAH.

    No. These are the non-working class leeches who've only "worked" over the past couple of nights smashing in shop windows.


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    #1231
    k.p.h
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    Brain Stroking wrote: »
    I completely agree with Queen Mise on this one. These people may not be watching Bloomberg but the stories on Bloomberg seep down to the lowest classes in society. These are people who have no money and no way to progress out of their situation. Why would these young people aim to go to college when there is no point. They cant afford it and the cuts are severely limiting college options. Why would they look for work when there is no work to be gotten? Their situation is hopeless and i think that the Duggan issue lit the touchpaper really.
    What is happening now is brazen criminality and should be condemned. But there are forces driving this and simply saying "scumbags" is ignoring the problem.

    Fair play I think you are spot on their. Easy just to condemn from your couch on here.


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