How to get Channel 5 and BBC One HD on your Irish EPG and Recordable!!

dogtoffee · 19-07-2012 9:24pm

I really cant understand why its not working for some and not others my card is a NI FTV card got 6 months ago activated by sky to a old pace box
I forced the update with Ni card in.

It might be the box

pbarr · 19-07-2012 9:29pm

pbarr wrote: »

Since the update I'm having a problem when I try recording one of the card trick channels and one of the other channels at the same time. Most times the box freezes up and one of the recordings will come up as a clash even though there was only two recordings set for that time. My box was set to record Tipping Point on UTV at 5pm this evening and was set for Come Dine on Ch4 at 5.30. I discovered at 10 to 6 that the box was frozen and when I reset it discovered that the UTV recording was ok but the ch 4 one had clashed.
Has anyone else been having similar problems.

Edit: I am also just after noticing now that at the moment there is a recording going on on ch 5 & BBC1 if I try to play back a recorded program it plays but I can't pause rewind, fast forward or stop it. The only way to stop playback is to power off the box with the remote.

The forced update today seems to have solved this.

dogtoffee · 19-07-2012 9:43pm

pbarr wrote: »

The forced update today seems to have solved this.

did it sort the epg

pbarr · 19-07-2012 9:45pm

dogtoffee wrote: »

did it sort the epg

Afraid not, lol

dogtoffee · 19-07-2012 9:51pm

what model is you box

pbarr · 19-07-2012 9:56pm

dogtoffee wrote: »

what model is you box

Took this earlier

Woodie40 · 19-07-2012 10:00pm

pbarr wrote: »

Took this earlier

4f3106
21.00p

jca · 19-07-2012 10:09pm

My details are,
Model No.R004.049.21.00P
Version No.4f3104
Serial No.0362215851
Manufacturer. Amstrad.
What type of box do I have?
I notice my model number is slightly different to pbarr's, 21 instead of 22 in his case. The result is the same for both of us unfortunately(no trick epg)

jca · 19-07-2012 10:16pm

Woodie40 wrote: »

4f3106
21.00p

Trick working or not Woodie40?

Woodie40 · 19-07-2012 10:19pm

jca wrote: »

Trick working or not Woodie40?

Yes exactly as before I got the new EPG. Blue NI card

jca · 19-07-2012 10:37pm

Woodie40 wrote: »

Yes exactly as before I got the new EPG. Blue NI card

Your version number only 2 digits away from my version number and model the same. Do you just simply reboot using NI card and then swop to sub card? Do you do anything with other channels,favourites etc?

Can anyone tell us what these numbers mean?

Woodie40 · 19-07-2012 10:56pm

jca wrote: »

Your version number only 2 digits away from my version number and model the same. Do you just simply reboot using NI card and then swop to sub card? Do you do anything with other channels,favourites etc?

Can anyone tell us what these numbers mean?

The 21 22 op is the software version number of the epg. The 22 is the latest version. The 4f i think refers to the version of the amstrad box you have. The 4f3106 is the 500gb hard drive......I have the channels applicable to NI stored in my other channels and the favourites. I do the trick as before. Reboot with NI card and then put Irish card in

dogtoffee · 20-07-2012 9:47am

My details are
Model No.R004.049.21.00P
Version No.4f31d5
Manufacturer. Amstrad

jca · 20-07-2012 9:51am

On my second box I removed other channels and all favourites from all cards. I ended up with box booted from NI card running NI epg. I then did forced update which updated it to version 22. Added back in the other channels, added them to favourites, tuned in to itv2 on other channels waited for 7 mins, whipped out NI card and put in Irish sub, waited for almost 10 mins, pressed 118........ Yep you've guessed it. DIDN'T BLOODY WORK!!!!

dogtoffee · 20-07-2012 10:01am

jca wrote: »

Can anyone tell us what these numbers mean?

.

If you have a version beginning with 4F31, then you have an Amstrad DRX890 or DRX895. As you are in the current wave of customers receiving the update, you will receive the new Sky Guide within the next few months.
Sky TV

dogtoffee · 20-07-2012 10:11am

jca wrote: »

On my second box I removed other channels and all favourites from all cards. I ended up with box booted from NI card running NI epg. I then did forced update which updated it to version 22. Added back in the other channels, added them to favourites, tuned in to itv2 on other channels waited for 7 mins, whipped out NI card and put in Irish sub, waited for almost 10 mins, pressed 118........ Yep you've guessed it. DIDN'T BLOODY WORK!!!!

m8 try this its what works for me.

with sub card add other channels
unplug box and insert NI card
power up box
add fav's
then go to TV guide (this is NI EPG)
remove NI card insert sub ( DON'T POWER DOWN BOX)
after about a min the Irish channels will be added to the NI EPG
card trick should be working.

pbarr · 20-07-2012 6:54pm

dogtoffee wrote: »

m8 try this its what works for me.

with sub card add other channels
unplug box and insert NI card
power up box
add fav's
then go to TV guide (this is NI EPG)
remove NI card insert sub ( DON'T POWER DOWN BOX)
after about a min the Irish channels will be added to the NI EPG
card trick should be working.

This doesn't work either for me. When I swap from the NI card to to sub card the epg changes back to the Irish one after about 30 secs but no sign of the UK channels.

jca · 20-07-2012 7:31pm

I've tried every combination of card switching, other channel removal, favourites ticking and unticking, forced updates blah blah f/ing blah and always end up with the Irish epg. Getting it in the neck from the missus and kids over failed recordings. Going to stick to the blue button at least that system works. Sorry guys, rant over...... I'm like George (baby face) Nelson in o brother where art thou... I'm on a low.

SPAWKER · 20-07-2012 10:18pm

Box updated this morning to R004.049.22.00P and Version No.4F3106 and the card trick which brings the Irish and English EPG together is still working using a NI card

jca · 20-07-2012 11:02pm

SPAWKER wrote: »

Box updated this morning to R004.049.22.00P and Version No.4F3106 and the card trick which brings the Irish and English EPG together is still working using a NI card

Mine is version 4f3104, this seems to be the version that's not working. People with 4f3106 seem to be getting a better success rate. This is the box type is it not? Looks like a box problem then.

SPAWKER · 21-07-2012 2:42pm

Just after doing the card trick on the mothers box which has version No 4f31d4 and it works to bring both together

Pocaide · 21-07-2012 10:19pm

ok forgive my ignorance but how can I find out what my box version is

pbarr · 21-07-2012 10:27pm

SPAWKER wrote: »

Just after doing the card trick on the mothers box which has version No 4f31d4 and it works to bring both together

Wonder has anyone with version no 4f31d3 got it working ?

pbarr · 21-07-2012 11:08pm

Pocaide wrote: »

ok forgive my ignorance but how can I find out what my box version is

Services/Settings/Details...its in there.

MBSnr · 23-07-2012 10:29pm

Not sure if anyone mentioned it but using this 'card trick' now gives all the BBC SD Olympic channels starting at EPG 450. (As long as you have all 24 channels added to the 'add channels').

Woodie40 · 23-07-2012 11:11pm

MBSnr wrote: »

Not sure if anyone mentioned it but using this 'card trick' now gives all the BBC SD Olympic channels starting at EPG 450. (As long as you have all 24 channels added to the 'add channels').

Have you got the new epg? If so what version of sky's hd box do you have?

MBSnr · 25-07-2012 5:33pm

Woodie40 wrote: »

Have you got the new epg? If so what version of sky's hd box do you have?

nah still on the old one.... for now....

energy1942 · 25-07-2012 5:42pm

You can add them using card trick & watch them & record them via the blue button.

maximus02 · 25-07-2012 5:53pm

Hi

I've been using the card trick successfully for a while with a Granada card. I'm now using the new EPG and have the channels now as favourites which I can watch/record using Blue button.

Last night I added the 24 SD olympic channels and this seemed fine. Up to today!

I switched on TV this evening and no Olympic channels. The other channels ITVHD, C5 etc are still there but no Olympic channels. They were there last night.

Anyone else having this problem. I may have set it up wrong but they worked last night.

If it's just me, could someone give me in simple steps how to set these channels up. Which card to use when adding channels and setting favourites etc.

Thanks in advance.
Max

warlikedave · 25-07-2012 6:25pm

maximus02 wrote: »

Hi

I've been using the card trick successfully for a while with a Granada card. I'm now using the new EPG and have the channels now as favourites which I can watch/record using Blue button.

Last night I added the 24 SD olympic channels and this seemed fine. Up to today!

I switched on TV this evening and no Olympic channels. The other channels ITVHD, C5 etc are still there but no Olympic channels. They were there last night.

Anyone else having this problem. I may have set it up wrong but they worked last night.

If it's just me, could someone give me in simple steps how to set these channels up. Which card to use when adding channels and setting favourites etc.

Thanks in advance.
Max

3 of the channels seem to be available through the red button at the moment and in HD as well but that is not much good if you are looking to record or set reminders

energy1942 · 25-07-2012 8:08pm

maximus02 wrote: »

Hi

I've been using the card trick successfully for a while with a Granada card. I'm now using the new EPG and have the channels now as favourites which I can watch/record using Blue button.

Last night I added the 24 SD olympic channels and this seemed fine. Up to today!

I switched on TV this evening and no Olympic channels. The other channels ITVHD, C5 etc are still there but no Olympic channels. They were there last night.

Anyone else having this problem. I may have set it up wrong but they worked last night.
This has happened to me also. I had them on the blue button this afternoon & now they are missing I will try them again later, I suspect they may have been shut down for a short time which may have caused this, I think they will probably will be ok.

energy1942 · 25-07-2012 8:10pm

maximus02 wrote: »

Hi

I've been using the card trick successfully for a while with a Granada card. I'm now using the new EPG and have the channels now as favourites which I can watch/record using Blue button.

Last night I added the 24 SD olympic channels and this seemed fine. Up to today!

I switched on TV this evening and no Olympic channels. The other channels ITVHD, C5 etc are still there but no Olympic channels. They were there last night.

Anyone else having this problem. I may have set it up wrong but they worked last night.

If it's just me, could someone give me in simple steps how to set these channels up. Which card to use when adding channels and setting favourites etc.

Thanks in advance.
Max

I had them on the blue button this afternoon & now they are missing I will try them again later, I suspect they may have been shut down for a short time which may have caused this, I think they will probably will be ok.

machiavellianme · 25-07-2012 9:32pm

Snap. Same thing. Had them on the old epg and now they've vanished. Everything else is still there

muffler · 25-07-2012 9:48pm

machiavellianme wrote: »

Snap. Same thing. Had them on the old epg and now they've vanished. Everything else is still there

Ditto. I still have the old epg and tuned them all into the "other channels" yesterday and then done the card trick. All going well until I put on the telly this evening and they're gone again. Im not worried as RTE will be showing the Irish interests.

energy1942 · 25-07-2012 9:58pm

muffler wrote: »

Ditto. I still have the old epg and tuned them all into the "other channels" yesterday and then done the card trick. All going well until I put on the telly this evening and they're gone again. Im not worried as RTE will be showing the Irish interests.

Has anyone tried putting them back on the blue button?

machiavellianme · 25-07-2012 10:50pm

tried getting them back without success but they're still listed and working under other channels

maximus02 · 26-07-2012 12:22am

Starting to think now that Olympic channels are gone forever from Blue button. How, I don't know.

Looks like will have to use red button for as mush as will be available. Good news is that so far the red button channels are in HD.

Only other alternative is too keep swapping subscription card and FTA card. Of course both of these options mean no recording/Pause etc.

:mad:

pbarr · 30-07-2012 7:58pm

My box is back to freezing up when I record from a blue button channel and an ordinary channel at the same time and I have to reset it by unplugging. Happens 90% of the time. Is it happening anybody else.

energy1942 · 30-07-2012 8:33pm

pbarr wrote: »

My box is back to freezing up when I record from a blue button channel and an ordinary channel at the same time and I have to reset it by unplugging. Happens 90% of the time. Is it happening anybody else.

When you record like this make sure that the non blue button channel is viewing this avoids this happening.
Also you cannot record 2 blue button channels at the same time, when I do it I use 2 boxes.

Dj Ben · 31-07-2012 2:09am

Just to confirm, card trick working on 2 Amstrad boxes with new EPG using NI Card

1.Reboot box with NI card
1.Add UK channels to other channels
2.Save Uk channels to favourites
3 Remove NI card when done
4 Go to other channels
5 You should be asked to insert card...use Irish sub card
6 Enter Pin no.
7 Select uk channel Itv 2 or itv 3...not BBC...
8 Wait 5 mins or so...then select Tv Guide
9 Uk + Irish channels should be on Epg...

P.S. Make sure you tune in NI versions of UK channels...

JDxtra · 31-07-2012 11:13pm

The favourites on my Sky box are now knackered since messing around trying to get the card trick to work using the above.

I've removed all of the favourites (UK and Irish), yet it always says I have no favourites when I do (it just sticks at 101 - RTE One).

Just a word of warning!!

jca · 01-08-2012 9:57am

Dj Ben wrote: »

Just to confirm, card trick working on 2 Amstrad boxes with new EPG using NI Card

1.Reboot box with NI card
1.Add UK channels to other channels
2.Save Uk channels to favourites
3 Remove NI card when done
4 Go to other channels
5 You should be asked to insert card...use Irish sub card
6 Enter Pin no.
7 Select uk channel Itv 2 or itv 3...not BBC...
8 Wait 5 mins or so...then select Tv Guide
9 Uk + Irish channels should be on Epg...

P.S. Make sure you tune in NI versions of UK channels...

Can you tell us the version numbers of both boxes? I think the trick is only working on certain versions.

obliviousgrudge · 01-08-2012 11:57pm

Had to turn off the box at the plug this evening.

I did the card trick but it didn't work.

I turned the box off at the plug and inserted the UK card (ITV Central region I think) and the UK EPG didn't show up, just the Irish one. I tried it again but to no avail.

It seems the card trick has now stopped working for me.

The channels are gone from favourites and when I press the blue button they don't appear either, however, when I go to Other Channels I now have to enter a PIN to view the channels, something I didn't have to do before - could this be the reason?

Is there any way to not have to enter the PIN when accessing Other Channels?

I'm using a Samsung on the old software FYI.

SPAWKER · 02-08-2012 7:54am

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

Had to turn off the box at the plug this evening.
I did the card trick but it didn't work.
I turned the box off at the plug and inserted the UK card (ITV Central region I think) and the UK EPG didn't show up, just the Irish one. I tried it again but to no avail.
It seems the card trick has now stopped working for me.
The channels are gone from favourites and when I press the blue button they don't appear either, however, when I go to Other Channels I now have to enter a PIN to view the channels, something I didn't have to do before - could this be the reason?
Is there any way to not have to enter the PIN when accessing Other Channels?
I'm using a Samsung on the old software FYI.

The card trick only works as before either with a Ni or Channel Islands card and no other.

machiavellianme · 02-08-2012 8:53am

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

Had to turn off the box at the plug this evening.

I did the card trick but it didn't work.

I turned the box off at the plug and inserted the UK card (ITV Central region I think) and the UK EPG didn't show up, just the Irish one. I tried it again but to no avail.

It seems the card trick has now stopped working for me.

The channels are gone from favourites and when I press the blue button they don't appear either, however, when I go to Other Channels I now have to enter a PIN to view the channels, something I didn't have to do before - could this be the reason?

Is there any way to not have to enter the PIN when accessing Other Channels?

I'm using a Samsung on the old software FYI.

Try waiting longer after you unplug the box. It might be that you arent leaving it long enough.

This isnt a Setanta card by any chance?

jca · 02-08-2012 10:31am

I wonder would this work? Rebuild the box completely using your uk card( press l&r arrow while plugging in box) making sure the phone line is disconnected so it can't " locate" the box. That would make the baseline epg the uk one. I would give it a try but all my recordings would be lost.

SPAWKER · 02-08-2012 12:32pm

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

Had to turn off the box at the plug this evening.
I did the card trick but it didn't work.
I turned the box off at the plug and inserted the UK card (ITV Central region I think) and the UK EPG didn't show up, just the Irish one. I tried it again but to no avail.
It seems the card trick has now stopped working for me.
The channels are gone from favourites and when I press the blue button they don't appear either, however, when I go to Other Channels I now have to enter a PIN to view the channels, something I didn't have to do before - could this be the reason?
Is there any way to not have to enter the PIN when accessing Other Channels?
I'm using a Samsung on the old software FYI.

Didnt read your post properly earlier,maybe your Ftv card has gone asleep if it hasnt been used for a while and needs to be left in your box overnight to update itself

obliviousgrudge · 02-08-2012 1:46pm

SPAWKER wrote: »

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

Had to turn off the box at the plug this evening.
I did the card trick but it didn't work.
I turned the box off at the plug and inserted the UK card (ITV Central region I think) and the UK EPG didn't show up, just the Irish one. I tried it again but to no avail.
It seems the card trick has now stopped working for me.
The channels are gone from favourites and when I press the blue button they don't appear either, however, when I go to Other Channels I now have to enter a PIN to view the channels, something I didn't have to do before - could this be the reason?
Is there any way to not have to enter the PIN when accessing Other Channels?
I'm using a Samsung on the old software FYI.

Didnt read your post properly earlier,maybe your Ftv card has gone asleep if it hasnt been used for a while and needs to be left in your box overnight to update itself

Got it all sorted. I turnrd off all PIN restrictions and did the trick again and its all okay now.

pbarr · 02-08-2012 3:42pm

Dj Ben wrote: »

Just to confirm, card trick working on 2 Amstrad boxes with new EPG using NI Card

1.Reboot box with NI card
1.Add UK channels to other channels
2.Save Uk channels to favourites
3 Remove NI card when done
4 Go to other channels
5 You should be asked to insert card...use Irish sub card
6 Enter Pin no.
7 Select uk channel Itv 2 or itv 3...not BBC...
8 Wait 5 mins or so...then select Tv Guide
9 Uk + Irish channels should be on Epg...

P.S. Make sure you tune in NI versions of UK channels...

I followed this to a T but the result is no different, blue button recording only no UK channels on the EPG.

jca wrote: »

I wonder would this work? Rebuild the box completely using your uk card( press l&r arrow while plugging in box) making sure the phone line is disconnected so it can't " locate" the box. That would make the baseline epg the uk one. I would give it a try but all my recordings would be lost.

Thinking of that too but have too much recorded at the moment to try it but if its the box version thats preventing it from working then it would probably be a waste of time.

jca · 03-08-2012 4:35pm

pbarr wrote: »

Dj Ben wrote: »

Just to confirm, card trick working on 2 Amstrad boxes with new EPG using NI Card

1.Reboot box with NI card
1.Add UK channels to other channels
2.Save Uk channels to favourites
3 Remove NI card when done
4 Go to other channels
5 You should be asked to insert card...use Irish sub card
6 Enter Pin no.
7 Select uk channel Itv 2 or itv 3...not BBC...
8 Wait 5 mins or so...then select Tv Guide
9 Uk + Irish channels should be on Epg...

P.S. Make sure you tune in NI versions of UK channels...

I followed this to a T but the result is no different, blue button recording only no UK channels on the EPG.

jca wrote: »

I wonder would this work? Rebuild the box completely using your uk card( press l&r arrow while plugging in box) making sure the phone line is disconnected so it can't " locate" the box. That would make the baseline epg the uk one. I would give it a try but all my recordings would be lost.

Thinking of that too but have too much recorded at the moment to try it but if its the box version thats preventing it from working then it would probably be a waste of time.

That's true. I don't want to keep messing and end up with no uk channels at all. The boxes aren't the best software and get very twitchy after one too many reboots!!

How to get Channel 5 and BBC One HD on your Irish EPG and Recordable!!

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