How to get Channel 5 and BBC One HD on your Irish EPG and Recordable!!

twinklerunner

antocann wrote: »

got a new sky box installed , now cant get the trick to work , when i unplug , insert uk card power on , still shows rte 1etc...

Are you sure that the UK card was inserted properly? Try again as RTE can't appear with a UK card

antocann

twinklerunner wrote: »

Are you sure that the UK card was inserted properly? Try again as RTE can't appear with a UK card

i got it sorted , yep it was inserted properly , i ended up doing a software update with uk card in , got bbc etc the put it back to irish one and started again which seemed to work

jca

antocann wrote: »

i got it sorted , yep it was inserted properly , i ended up doing a software update with uk card in , got bbc etc the put it back to irish one and started again which seemed to work

Are they on the epg or the blue button?

antocann

jca wrote: »

Are they on the epg or the blue button?

blue button , just kinda pissed me off gething it to work :P
happy now it is working

batata

how to get this FT card in ireland?

SPAWKER

Box updated last night to R005.053.70.15P and can confirm that the full card trick is still working using a Ni card.

muffler

Are many people experiencing problems with the box after doing "the trick"?

My sister tells me that her box, which had the software updated a couple months ago, is now freezing a few times a week. She is using a Granada region card and records quite a bit from the ITV1 channel.

Im using the same card and apart from one or two reboots over the last few months I never had any issues myself but then again I seldom record the UK channels.

MBSnr

muffler wrote: »

Are many people experiencing problems with the box after doing "the trick"?

Mine will sometimes go to the Sky intro channel 998 when watching one of the blue button channels, meaning I have to change it back via the blue button which is a slow process waiting for the box to respond. Doesn't seem to be any pattern to it. It did it once over Xmas on BBC news then hasn't since.

jca

MBSnr wrote: »

Mine will sometimes go to the Sky intro channel 998 when watching one of the blue button channels, meaning I have to change it back via the blue button which is a slow process waiting for the box to respond. Doesn't seem to be any pattern to it. It did it once over Xmas on BBC news then hasn't since.

I was getting those problems on one of my boxes about 6 weeks ago but it seems to have settled down again. Such a pity they changed the epg I really liked the old setup. Ah well, nothing last forever I suppose!!

pbarr

To all those that are doing this using the blue button to record keep redoing the card trick once a week or every couple of weeks. My box was updated in the summer and after that I could only record that way up until two months ago I had to do the card trick again after a power cut and I discovered the trick channels back on the epg again with no obvious reason for it. Only for the power cut I would never have known that it had come back working.

muffler

pbarr wrote: »

To all those that are doing this using the blue button to record keep redoing the card trick once a week or every couple of weeks. My box was updated in the summer and after that I could only record that way up until two months ago I had to do the card trick again after a power cut and I discovered the trick channels back on the epg again with no obvious reason for it. Only for the power cut I would never have known that it had come back working.

Is it a UTV region card you're using?

pbarr

muffler wrote: »

Is it a UTV region card you're using?

Yes it is, I posted plenty here after the update and read about only a UTV card working by I couldn't get it to work. I gave up in the end and just used the blue button. I recon the box must have got an update that let it work.

muffler

pbarr wrote: »

Yes it is, I posted plenty here after the update and read about only a UTV card working by I couldn't get it to work. I gave up in the end and just used the blue button. I recon the box must have got an update that let it work.

Sorry I was being lazy in that I was trying to avoid rooting through the posts again to see what type of card it was.

I thought it was a UTV one alright and I seem to recall that most people using this card still retained the channel on the EPG after the update.

jca

muffler wrote: »

Sorry I was being lazy in that I was trying to avoid rooting through the posts again to see what type of card it was.

I thought it was a UTV one alright and I seem to recall that most people using this card still retained the channel on the EPG after the update.

Not me unfortunately!! Could anyone who has the trick channels on the epg post their epg/box type please? I might do a forced update with my UTV card and try for the trick epg.......

jca

jca wrote: »

Not me unfortunately!! Could anyone who has the trick channels on the epg post their epg/box type please? I might do a forced update with my UTV card and try for the trick epg.......

I did forced update with utv card which brought me up to epg version 15. Still not on epg!! Looking like the blue button forever for me.

alanashe

I got my hands on an old Sky NI Card, rebooted box with it and up came BBC 1/2 NI and UTV. However it did not store them onto the EPG.

Cantona's Collars

alanashe wrote: »

I got my hands on an old Sky NI Card, rebooted box with it and up came BBC 1/2 NI and UTV. However it did not store them onto the EPG.

You need to have those channels saved already as 'other channels',when they are saved,plug out the box & insert the NI card,wait until the NI EPG fully loads,save the 'other channels' as favourites,turn off the box & put back in your normal Sky card,viola-the 'other channels' are available via the blue button.

alanashe

zerks wrote: »

You need to have those channels saved already as 'other channels',when they are saved,plug out the box & insert the NI card,wait until the NI EPG fully loads,save the 'other channels' as favourites,turn off the box & put back in your normal Sky card,viola-the 'other channels' are available via the blue button.

I had the old card trick working with an old Granada card I have, that works with the blue button trick...but I was hoping the the NI region card would put the channels back on my EPG.

pbarr

jca wrote: »

Not me unfortunately!! Could anyone who has the trick channels on the epg post their epg/box type please?

I found this photo of my system details that I took a week after the box was updated with the new EPG and the card trick would not work.



Tonight I took this one(apologies for bad quality).The model no is different and the manufacturer has changed from Amstrad to Sky and Receiver ID has been added and the number 3 has been added in to the serial no and the card trick is working with it with the channels on the EPG.

Stinicker

I got a FTV card from Newcastle this morning and it works great. However it has very limited functionality due to Sky's new EPG. I have them in favourites the blue button and then only the channels which are already manually tuned in via "Other Channels" however most importantly when I removed the UK card and replaced it with the Irish card I was able to get a recording started on Channel4HD and that was the most important.

I will do some more playing around this evening but for me it is worth it has I can have recording functionality of the few channels I want.

Morrisseeee

The installer did this trick for me, ie. I now have all ITV's Ch5 Ch5USA etc, but yes I'm seeing weird things on the EPG, ie. when I set up my favourites, I noticed I couldn't advance to the next station by pressing Ch+(on some channels), but it would advance if you pressed the 'what's on next' blue button and then pressed the Ch+ or Ch-.
After further investigation, when I went into Options and then Favourites, I see that there's 5 of some channels !! eg. 5 * SkySportsNews, 5 * Eurosport1 etc

Note: He didn't add C4HD, so I added that one myself, but while it's on 'other channels', it isn't on the EPG, damn as I would love to be able to record.

ALO34

If i perform the card trick will i loose programes that i have already recorded onto my sky box.

pbarr

ALO34 wrote: »

If i perform the card trick will i loose programes that i have already recorded onto my sky box.

No you won't.

Stinicker

I have a Newcastle FTV card and a new amstrad box with the very latest EPG so let me explain.

Basically I remove my Irish sub card and power off the box, insert FTV card and reboot.

Once I have this done I get all the typical UK channels as per the card.

I then went into lyngsat.com and got the tuning frequencies for the particular channels I was interested in keeping; in my case ITVHD and CH4HD, ITV1,2,3 +1's etc. and tuned them and saved them in "other channels", I then went to favourites and saved them and removed the card whilst the box was still running, the box reverts to the Irish EPG and all the channels from the FTV card have been wiped out from the EPG, but they still remain in the blue button favourites and most critically are recordable, with live pause rewind etc. Ok it is a little inconvenient for scheduling as they are not in the EPG but series link works too and it is now far handier than viewing them via "other channels".

My card is from Newcastle and the ITV1HD variation for it is Granada so for the trick to work you must be first off be able to tune the channels into other channels so be careful as not all regional variations allow this as some have 29000 frequencies which cannot be tuned in.

I am delighted and my main aim was to get ITV1HD and CH4HD on the Sky box and I can now record stuff from them using the Sky+ facility.

muffler

muffler wrote: »

Are many people experiencing problems with the box after doing "the trick"?

My sister tells me that her box, which had the software updated a couple months ago, is now freezing a few times a week. She is using a Granada region card and records quite a bit from the ITV1 channel.

Im using the same card and apart from one or two reboots over the last few months I never had any issues myself but then again I seldom record the UK channels.

Just a wee bump on this with a follow on question. I was on to Sky about a different issue and happened to mention about the box freezing fairly often. They suggested doing a planner rebuild and emailed the instructions on that. But if she does the rebuild will it affect the card trick in any way? Will she loose channels stored in Other channels" and "favourites"? Is there any disadvantage to doing the planner rebuild?

Dymo

I haven't tried this but here are the instructions for the planner rebuild and a system reset

Planner Rebuild

Press Services on your Sky Remote and move across to Settings and press select.
Access the Installer Set Up by pressing 0 (zero) 1 and then select.
Use the left or right arrows to scroll along and highlight Rebuild (this will change to Planner Rebuild when you’ve reached it) and press select.
You’ll receive an on screen message saying "This will take a few minutes to complete. The rebuild will stop all recordings and reboot your Sky+" Press select to continue.
An on screen message saying “Housekeeping Please Wait” will appear. This should only show for 2 minutes. If it stays on your screen for longer than 2 minutes please take your viewing card out and reset your box.
When the housekeeping message has disappeared your box with automatically turn off and on again and be in the stand-by mode (showing a red light).
Wait 3 minutes and press the Sky button on your remote to turn the box back on out of stand-by mode.

Full System Reset

Should the above steps fail to clear the System Fault message then a Full System Reset may be required to clear the issue. A Full System Reset will delete all existing and planned recordings from your planner.

1. Press the services button to access the menu with Options highlighted.
2. Press the right arrow button to highlight the Settings menu and press. You will now be highlighted on Picture on the middle menu bar.
3. Press 0, 1 and select to access the hidden Installer menu.
4. Using the left /right arrow buttons highlight System Reset and press select .
5. The warning OSM “This option will delete all existing and planned recordings. Press Select to continue or Backup to cancel”. Press Select.
6. The on screen message: Housekeeping, please wait will appear. If the on-screen message does not clear after 2 minutes or more, check our “Housekeeping – please wait” article
7. Once complete your Sky box will switch itself off and then back on automatically displaying the red standby light.
8. Wait for 2 to 3 minutes after the red light has appeared.
9. Press the Sky button on the remote control to return your Sky box to full power, confirming there is a green light illuminated on the box.

muffler

Thanks Dymo. I have the instructions for the planner rebuild and while Sky have indicated that it wont affect recordings Im wondering is there anything else that could be lost or changed after that.

Dymo

No nothing changes after the planner rebuild, I did it after posting the instructions where as the system reset I think wipes everything.

Newport81

Can anyone confirm if a white NI card will bring the uk channels on epg?

eddiem10

I have a NI card and it does not bring the channels onto the EPG. My understanding is that it is also box dependent. My version number is 4f31d5 and no matter what region card I use, or how many times I reboot (twice a week at the moment.... Long story!) I cannot get the channels on the EPG. Contract is up with Sky in a couple of months so Freesat here I come!

muffler

smyths wrote: »

Can anyone confirm if a white NI card will bring the uk channels on epg?

Yup, got a UTV region card a couple of days ago and all the ITV channels are back on the EPG.

As stated above it is probably down to the type and version of box.

alanashe

muffler wrote: »

Yup, got a UTV region card a couple of days ago and all the ITV channels are back on the EPG.

As stated above it is probably down to the type and version of box.

Is it a FTV card, I tried my parents old Sub card which didnt work.

Woodie40

alanashe wrote: »

Is it a FTV card, I tried my parents old Sub card which didnt work.

The Card trick working perfectly for me for over a year now, (all on the main EPG) with a really old sky NI blue card, as someone already mentioned is box dependant. 4f3106 is the version I have.

muffler

alanashe wrote: »

Is it a FTV card, I tried my parents old Sub card which didnt work.

Its a Sky freesat card (white) which is the same thing

SPAWKER

alanashe wrote: »

Is it a FTV card, I tried my parents old Sub card which didnt work.

Has your parents old sub card been lying around and not been in a box for a while,if so it probably needs to be left in the box overnight to recativate itself. Should work for you then.

pbarr

smyths wrote: »

Can anyone confirm if a white NI card will bring the uk channels on epg?

Working fine here too.

pbarr

eddiem10 wrote: »

I have a NI card and it does not bring the channels onto the EPG. My understanding is that it is also box dependent. My version number is 4f31d5 and no matter what region card I use, or how many times I reboot (twice a week at the moment.... Long story!) I cannot get the channels on the EPG. Contract is up with Sky in a couple of months so Freesat here I come!

Have you tried a forced update. My model no went from R004.049.22.00P to R005.053.70.11P dont know why, it must have been an update and now the full card trick is working where before it wasn't. Maybe the version no has something to do with it too that stayed the same. Just found this: http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-hd-supertelly/50699-new-firmware.html

alanashe

SPAWKER wrote: »

Has your parents old sub card been lying around and not been in a box for a while,if so it probably needs to be left in the box overnight to recativate itself. Should work for you then.

I tried the card on the multiroom box upstairs, it added the UK channels to the EPG, however when I inserted my Irish card I got a message saying that the wrong card is inserted and to contact Sky. I left it in hope that it would sort itself out, but after an hour I got another message saying no satellite signal is being received. Had to ring Sky and get them to reactivate my Irish card.

Box upstairs is version number 4F3106 still on old EPG while the main one downstairs is 4F310A with the new EPG.

Ah well, seems like I have to put up with the blue button trick.

Mimikyu

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pbarr

Are you using the blue button to record or have you the trick channels on the epg.

Mimikyu

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twinklerunner

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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The box gets 'confused' if you're recording a trick channel and an epg channel at the same time, especially if you attempt to change channel too . I check my recordings to keep them separate

pbarr

twinklerunner wrote: »

The box gets 'confused' if you're recording a trick channel and an epg channel at the same time, especially if you attempt to change channel too . I check my recordings to keep them separate

Yes thats right, it used to happen me when I tried recocording two trick channels or one trick channel and an ordinary channel while the box was on a third channel. The box wouldn't switch to either channels and would freeze and one of the recordings would fail. I got around it by making sure that the box was on one of the channels that was being recorded.

eddiem10

Are we on to something here? http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=83003124#post83003124

jca

eddiem10 wrote: »

Are we on to something here? http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=83003124#post83003124

I think you could be right. I've tried everything but cannot get the channels on the epg, I also upgraded to HD.

jca

jca wrote: »

I think you could be right. I've tried everything but cannot get the channels on the epg, I also upgraded to HD.

Sky will be wondering when all us anoraks cancel our hd packs!!! I'd much rather have the trick epg than hd tbh.

muffler

The HD issue has only been mentioned once or twice. Personally I think its all to do with the region card. As stated previously I was using a Granada card up to and after the software update and I lost the ITV channels from the EPG.

A few weeks ago I bought a UTV region card and I now have all the UK channels back on the EPG.

jca

muffler wrote: »

The HD issue has only been mentioned once or twice. Personally I think its all to do with the region card. As stated previously I was using a Granada card up to and after the software update and I lost the ITV channels from the EPG.

A few weeks ago I bought a UTV region card and I now have all the UK channels back on the EPG.

I think you're missing the point here. I used a London card and the trick stopped working after the epg was changed leaving me with blue button only. I then got a utv ftv card but it wouldn't work either. In the meantime I got the hd pack. I'm going to cancel the hd and try my utv card which will be the acid test. I hope it works.... Do you have the hd pack?

muffler

jca wrote: »

I think you're missing the point here. I used a London card and the trick stopped working after the epg was changed leaving me with blue button only. I then got a utv ftv card but it wouldn't work either. In the meantime I got the hd pack. I'm going to cancel the hd and try my utv card which will be the acid test. I hope it works.... Do you have the hd pack?

Ah sorry, I picked that up wrong. I dont have the HD pack myself.

I then got a utv ftv card but it wouldn't work either. In the meantime I got the hd pack.

If Im reading that correctly you got the UTV card after the update and it wouldnt put the UK channels on the EPG. You then got the HD pack and the situation remained the same. If thats correct then getting rid if the HD isnt going to help.

jca

muffler wrote: »

Ah sorry, I picked that up wrong. I dont have the HD pack myself.


If Im reading that correctly you got the UTV card after the update and it wouldnt put the UK channels on the EPG. You then got the HD pack and the situation remained the same. If thats correct then getting rid if the HD isnt going to help.

I can't remember when I got the hd pack in. I'm going to cancel the hd and then try the trick with the utv card. Worth a bash eh?