How to get Channel 5 and BBC One HD on your Irish EPG and Recordable!!

gtg60

Remember to have the correct ITV regions saved in 'Other Channels' or it doesn't work.

HomerS

Does anyone know if NorthWest region work?

MBSnr

MBSnr wrote: »

Hmmm I might look/try again but I didn't have either ITV 1 SD/HD.... but I did put in the East Anglia card first so perhaps a power cycle is needed and start over.

OK - Anglia region uses an encrypted version of ITV SD/HD so they can't be added and viewed. My bad on the London card - it gave me ITV SD (I'd not added it to "other channels"), but whatever combination I try, ITV HD won't appear on the EPG. Not to worry though - at least I can still watch it in "other channels". Still I have BBC1 Lon/BBC 2 Eng/ITV1-4 /Ch5/BBC News. Not too bad considering!

200motels

There's a few ITV HD'S when you try a tune them in, try tune all of them in.

celj

HomerS wrote: »

Does anyone know if NorthWest region work?

I have a North West card(Granada)and it won't give me Channel 5.(Well it will but I can't watch it!)

maxg

johnire wrote: »

Hi all.
Just came across this thread and find it really interesting.
I have UTV and Channel 5 set up as other channels and obviously this means I cant record anything ....but would really love to have that facility.
I know that what Im asking here has already been answered in previous replies but Im going to be a pain and ask again!!
I have 2 Sky+ boxes for different rooms in the house but since I got Sky installed I have never had either box plugged into the phone line.
If I do go down the route of what the other posts suggest does this mean I would have to apply for 2 UK FTV cards?
If I did get them do you think by ringing Sky to get them activated I will just be highlighting the fact that I dont have the boxes connected to a phone line?
Also just a bit confused as to what exactly you end up with if all went well....are these extra channels just inserted into the channell list?
Thanks!!

If you own 2 boxes with irish subscriptions cards you need temporarily 1 UK FTV card for playing the game as describt in this thread. A UK FTV card doesn't need to be married to a box for working. Only for the first time activation you need to give sky the details for a box. After that the card is working in every sky box. Beside that for a FTV card there is no phone line needed.

Dymo

Can anyone confirm getting this to work on a Sky+ box, I got it working on 3 HD boxes no problem but can't get it to work on the Sky+ boxes

DigiDec

Doesn't work on a sky+ box, has to be a newer HD box.

dooleykk

This will work on all HD boxes, right? And all you need is to put in a UK FTV card one time? So I can borrow a card from someone who has one and give it back, and this should stick for me? Or if I plug the box out am I back to square one (default)?

DigiDec

Doesn't work on the old Thomson HD boxes and if you pull the plug you are back to defauld Irish EPG so you will need to go through the process again to get both Irish and UK EPG togather.

dooleykk

Thanks. So I need to get hold of a UK FTV card then, cheers.....

DigiDec

Yeah, it would be easier to have your own one so you don't have to borrow one each time you need to repeat the process.

dooleykk

Thanks again. I know there was a thread on here about how people in the ROI can get their hands on a UK FTV card but I can't locate it now. Can anyone direct me to the link pls?

DigiDec

Go to the first post on page 1 of this thread, the link to that thread is there.

icdg

I'm slow to close the thread. The number of Free-to-View on Sky (channels encrpyted by VideoGuard, but merely requiring a Sky viewing card of any description - including an expired one - to view) is down to Pick TV, 5*, and 5USA now (have I missed any?). Of these, Pick TV is available in ROI anyway to Sky subscribers. The main purpose of the FTV card scheme now seems to be to ensure Freesat from Sky viewers in the UK get the "right" EPG for their region. The channels themselves (with the exception of 5*/5USA) are available in ROI through manual tuning.

So really, the only channels these cards allow ROI viewers to view that they shouldn't be viewing, are 5* and 5USA.

Now despite this I'm open to further views as to whether this thread should be closed. I'd rather the OP had not linked to the thread I previously closed. I realise that I did not delete that thread.

But for now the ruling is this: there will be no further discussion on how to OBTAIN a FTV card in the ROI. The link in the OP will be deleted. This thread will be left here. It will not be stickied. Anyone who already has a FTV card will be free to discuss using this trick.

galtee boy

icdg wrote: »

I'm slow to close the thread. The number of Free-to-View on Sky (channels encrpyted by VideoGuard, but merely requiring a Sky viewing card of any description - including an expired one - to view) is down to Pick TV, 5*, and 5USA now (have I missed any?). Of these, Pick TV is available in ROI anyway to Sky subscribers. The main purpose of the FTV card scheme now seems to be to ensure Freesat from Sky viewers in the UK get the "right" EPG for their region. The channels themselves (with the exception of 5*/5USA) are available in ROI through manual tuning.

So really, the only channels these cards allow ROI viewers to view that they shouldn't be viewing, are 5* and 5USA.

Now despite this I'm open to further views as to whether this thread should be closed. I'd rather the OP had not linked to the thread I previously closed. I realise that I did not delete that thread.

But for now the ruling is this: there will be no further discussion on how to OBTAIN a FTV card in the ROI. The link in the OP will be deleted. This thread will be left here. It will not be stickied. Anyone who already has a FTV card will be free to discuss using this trick.

The issue about this thread isn't the obtaining of Sky FTV cards in ROI and what channels a FTV card will or won't give access to, but the ability to at least partially "merge" the UK Epg with the ROI Epg. As I previously posted, it is a little gem of a software glitch and I just think that the less publicity we give it from now on, the more chance we may have that it will get forgotten about and prevent the likes of TV3 etc complaining to Sky and forcing them to correct the software. If the thread was stickied or "hidden" in another thread, it would help.

icdg

That's an angle I cannot really look at it from. You're effectively asking me to stop debate on the basis "because Sky might find out". Chances are they already know.

There's no issue with the "trick" per se in my view, its a bug in Sky's software and its up to them to fix it.

What's banned is discussing ways of circumventing conditional access systems. The "trick" doesn't fall into this category. Discussing how to obtain FTV cards in ROI does. Hence why you can't discuss it here.

As usual, further moderation related correspondance should be via PM and not on thread.

galtee boy

icdg wrote: »

That's an angle I cannot really look at it from. You're effectively asking me to stop debate on the basis "because Sky might find out". Chances are they already know.

There's no issue with the "trick" per se in my view, its a bug in Sky's software and its up to them to fix it.

What's banned is discussing ways of circumventing conditional access systems. The "trick" doesn't fall into this category. Discussing how to obtain FTV cards in ROI does. Hence why you can't discuss it here.

As usual, further moderation related correspondance should be via PM and not on thread.

Ok, point taken. Let the "trick" last as long as it will. I have a Humax Foxsat to fall back on anyway, it's just the novelty of having them on the Irish Sky Epg. Most people here who have FTV cards are using them in a second box, and have all these channels on a UK Epg anyway, so I suppose we're all fretting over nothing !

pbarr

p.oconnor wrote: »

lads this sounds very good, can the cards be still ordered from Ireland, does anyone no?

See here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055800625

Ruby_Woo

Stupid question but what number is Channel 5 on Sky? I think I have it tuned in with the frequencies I got on this forum but I can't find it on the Sky epg?

DigiDec

It should be on 105 if you have used "the trick" method.

pbarr

Ruby_Woo wrote: »

Stupid question but what number is Channel 5 on Sky? I think I have it tuned in with the frequencies I got on this forum but I can't find it on the Sky epg?

Just saw the 1st post here: http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/sky-digital-bskyb-uk-platform-astra-28-2e-astra-2d-fringe-reception-tech/139455-loading-c4-five-sky-epg-without-card.html

Whether it works or not I don't know as the post is quite old.

John mac

Ruby_Woo wrote: »

Stupid question but what number is Channel 5 on Sky? I think I have it tuned in with the frequencies I got on this forum but I can't find it on the Sky epg?

its not on the sky epg for ireland. (unless you have used the uk fta card trick and dont have a tompson box)

you can tune it in using the instructions on the sticky thread..

go to other channels on the sky epg.. (for a hd box services,9,5,select )

obliviousgrudge

Is the "White Sky FTV Card" just a standard white Sky UK card or is it a special kind of card?

DigiDec

It looks the same as any sky card but is intened for people in the UK to buy so they can receive 3 or 4 extra channels that are free to view.

obliviousgrudge

Is this just a standard UK Sky viewing card?

DigiDec

yes an ex sub uk card or one from the free to view scheme, they look exactly the same.

obliviousgrudge

So a standard UK subscription card will allow me to get Channel 5 on my EPG?

DigiDec

yes it should do as long as you also store Ch5 in other channels first and foolow the details given earlier in the thread.

obliviousgrudge

OK Cheers, so just to clarify 100%.

If I get a UK Sky sub card (from the regions mentioned) and follow the instructions it will work?

also, will the cards for sale on ebay work?

DigiDec

Yes, Sub UK card will work, we can't discuss buying cards not intended for ROI.

obliviousgrudge

OK Cheers for the help.

DigiDec

pm sent emmetmcl

pbarr

Are the Tompson boxes the older ones or the newer ones supplied by sky.

PoolDude

Got the following using my London card:

103: ITV1 London
118: ITV2
119: ITV3
120: ITV4
143: BBC1 HD
178: ITV1 HD

No Channel 5 sadly.

Did I miss anything else?

twinklerunner

PoolDude wrote: »

Got the following using my London card:

103: ITV1 London
118: ITV2
119: ITV3
120: ITV4
143: BBC1 HD
178: ITV1 HD

No Channel 5 sadly.

Did I miss anything else?

I've got the following extra channels with a London region FTV card

[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive] TV [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]101 BBC1 London[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]102 BBC2 England[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]103 ITV1 London
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]104 Channel 4[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]118 ITV2 [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]119 ITV3 [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]120 ITV4
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]131 ITV1+1[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]135 Channel 4+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]139 More 4+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]143 BBC1 HD
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]168 BBC Alba
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]178 ITV1 HD
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]179 ITV2+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]180 ITV3+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]503 BBC News
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]504 BBC Parliament[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]621 CITV[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]971 BBC1 Scotland[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]972 BBC1 Wales[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]990 BBC2 Scotland[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]991 BBC2 Wales[/FONT]



[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive] Radio[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0101 BBC R1[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0102 BBC R2[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0103 BBC R3[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0104 BBC R4[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0105 BBC R5L[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0115 BBC WS[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0116 BBC Scotland[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0117 BBC Wales[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0118 BBC Ulster[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0119 BBC Asian[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0120 BBC 6 Music[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0131 BBC R4X[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0137 BBC R1X[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0143 BBC R4 LW[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0144 BBC R5SX[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0152 BBC London[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive][/FONT]

DigiDec

Thomsons are the older boxes.

The Dark Knight

twinklerunner wrote: »

I've got the following extra channels with a London region FTV card

[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive] TV [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]101 BBC1 London[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]102 BBC2 England[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]103 ITV1 London
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]104 Channel 4[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]118 ITV2 0105[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]119 ITV3 0115[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]120 ITV4 0116
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]131 ITV1+1[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]135 Channel 4+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]139 More 4+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]143 BBC1 HD
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]168 BBC Alba
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]178 ITV1 HD
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]179 ITV2+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]180 ITV3+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]503 BBC News
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]504 BBC Parliament[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]621 CITV[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]971 BBC1 Scotland[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]972 BBC1 Wales[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]990 BBC2 Scotland[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]991 BBC2 Wales[/FONT]



[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive] Radio[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0101 BBC R1[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0102 BBC R2[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0103 BBC R3[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0104 BBC R4[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0105 BBC R5L[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0115 BBC WS[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0116 BBC Scotland[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0117 BBC Wales[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0118 BBC Ulster[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0119 BBC Asian[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0120 BBC 6 Music[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0131 BBC R4X[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0137 BBC R1X[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0143 BBC R4 LW[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0144 BBC R5SX[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0152 BBC London[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive][/FONT]

Wow!!! You had a lot of "other channels" tuned in

twinklerunner

The Dark Knight wrote: »

Wow!!! You had a lot of "other channels" tuned in

UTV, STV HD & Channel 5 too

pbarr

I ordered a ftv card from sky a couple of days ago. Just wondering what region card do they send out. Do they use the postcode or the phone no you used when you ordered it.

200motels

pbarr wrote: »

I ordered a ftv card from sky a couple of days ago. Just wondering what region card do they send out. Do they use the postcode or the phone no you used when you ordered it.

One of the mods made it quiet clear, no discussion of cards that are not intended for ROI, they'll close this thread if it keeps cropping up.

givecredit

pbarr wrote: »

I ordered a ftv card from sky a couple of days ago. Just wondering what region card do they send out. Do they use the postcode or the phone no you used when you ordered it.

Postcode.

hewlett

twinklerunner wrote: »

I've got the following extra channels with a London region FTV card

[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive] TV [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]101 BBC1 London[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]102 BBC2 England[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]103 ITV1 London
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]104 Channel 4[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]118 ITV2 0105[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]119 ITV3 0115[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]120 ITV4 0116
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]131 ITV1+1[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]135 Channel 4+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]139 More 4+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]143 BBC1 HD
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]168 BBC Alba
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]178 ITV1 HD
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]179 ITV2+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]180 ITV3+1
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]503 BBC News
[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]504 BBC Parliament[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]621 CITV[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]971 BBC1 Scotland[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]972 BBC1 Wales[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]990 BBC2 Scotland[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]991 BBC2 Wales[/FONT]



[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive] Radio[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0101 BBC R1[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0102 BBC R2[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0103 BBC R3[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0104 BBC R4[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0105 BBC R5L[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0115 BBC WS[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0116 BBC Scotland[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0117 BBC Wales[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0118 BBC Ulster[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0119 BBC Asian[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0120 BBC 6 Music[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0131 BBC R4X[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0137 BBC R1X[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0143 BBC R4 LW[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0144 BBC R5SX[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive]0152 BBC London[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, cursive][/FONT]

I have a London ftv card that isn't activated yet as I don't have a 'non contract' box to put it in. However, it still enables me to get the UK epg on my Sky HD box and so I can do the card swap thing to get the UK fta channels on my epg.

Even without activation, I'm able to get all of the above channels on my epg. Is there any advantage to activating the card? As far as I know, Channel 5 (which I'm not too interested in) wouldn't work anyway on a London ftv card.

gtg60

hewlett wrote: »

Even without activation, I'm able to get all of the above channels on my epg. Is there any advantage to activating the card? As far as I know, Channel 5 (which I'm not too interested in) wouldn't work anyway on a London ftv card.

For this trick the answer is no, however you will get a few extra channels once activated Pick TV, VIVA, Five * and Five USA and a few others.

twinklerunner

Even without activation, I'm able to get all of the above channels on my epg. Is there any advantage to activating the card? As far as I know, Channel 5 (which I'm not too interested in) wouldn't work anyway on a London ftv card.[/QUOTE]


Activating the card will get you Channel 5, Channel 5 HD, 5*, 5*+1, 5 USA, 5 USA+1

maximus02

Is anyone else having to enter their Pin Code every time they watch something recorded on Channel 5?

I haven't recorded any other of the 'new' channels yet but I did record Channel 5 and when I watch I have to enter pin code.

I don't have any parental controls set and I never have to do this for normal channels.

Thanks in advance.

twinklerunner

maximus02 wrote: »

Is anyone else having to enter their Pin Code every time they watch something recorded on Channel 5?

I haven't recorded any other of the 'new' channels yet but I did record Channel 5 and when I watch I have to enter pin code.

I don't have any parental controls set and I never have to do this for normal channels.

Thanks in advance.

If you look at post # 2 in this thread, you will see that I wrote The only difference is that to watch a programme you have recorded on one of the 'extra' channels you have to enter your pin to watch.

200motels

twinklerunner wrote: »

If you look at post # 2 in this thread, you will see that I wrote The only difference is that to watch a programme you have recorded on one of the 'extra' channels you have to enter your pin to watch.

It doesn't ask me to enter pin.

DigiDec

Whicj pin number is it asking for? the one from your ROI sub card or the one fron the other card?

maximus02

DigiDec wrote: »

Whicj pin number is it asking for? the one from your ROI sub card or the one fron the other card?

It asks for my normal 4 digit number which I have always had with my ROI Sky subscription.

BTW I don't have to enter the pin code for ITV1.