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Budget Gaming PC under €450

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    #2
    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    Overall its good, but you could make a few small changes to save money:

    -Drop the PSU down to the 450W version. 550W is overkill for a single 6850

    -Get the X4 955, when you overclock them they're pretty much the same anyway.

    -Get the Spinpoint F3 500GB instead. Its a slightly better drive, that motherboard doesn't support SATA3 and its a gimmick anyway.


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    #3
    Velvety
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Velvety


    I'm looking to build a gaming PC myself for around the same budget. I really like the look of what you've put together Lukker. Deconduo's reccomendations look the business too.

    Is that a single 4GB stick of ram for 20 euro? Could you have 8GBs of ram on that motherboard for 40 euro?


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    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Yep. You can get 2x4GB Corsair 1333MHz DDR3 for €36.50! :eek::D

    Damn those AM3 CPUs are getting cheap :eek:

    Aside from deconduo's suggestions I'd recommend changing the mobo to this. An Asus that cheap can't be trusted (and has terrible audio :p)


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    Velvety
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Velvety


    Right I'm very close to ordering a similar build to this. One quick question: is there a special part required to pick up a wireless internet connection on a desktop like this?


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    #6
    PseudoFamous
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    Velvety wrote: »
    Right I'm very close to ordering a similar build to this. One quick question: is there a special part required to pick up a wireless internet connection on a desktop like this?

    Yeah, one of these'll do.


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    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Or one of these ;)


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    #8
    whats this for?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭whats this for?


    PseudoFamous wrote: »
    Yeah, one of these'll do.
    Solitaire wrote: »
    Or one of these ;)
    Internal is better isin't it?

    This one?


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    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    whats this for? wrote: »
    Internal is better isin't it?

    This one?
    doesn't work with Windows 7. its drivers are in beta stage.


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    #10
    DarkDusk
    Registered Users Posts: 914 ✭✭✭DarkDusk


    (I could be comletely wrong in asking this question but anyway...)
    Is this a well-known site? Do they offer warranties with all the parts? Im just very sceptical about the price of the parts.


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    Shiminay
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    Very well known and for the most part, the reports from them are good from anyone who's bought from them.


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    #12
    Jonny7
    Registered Users Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    We've been recommending them for years now, very few complaints really compared to other retailers - plus they are German, they have a fetish for perfection.


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    #13
    Velvety
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Velvety


    Just got this machine up and running. Very happy with it but the graphics card isn't being detected. I installed windows 7 and under the screen resolution only the on-board graphics are showing up, rather than the lovely Sapphire HD 6850. Same when I run dxdiag.

    Any idea why this might be?


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    Velvety
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Velvety


    By the way, I got HWVS to build it for me. Just looking in the box of bits and pieces now I have a strange looking cable leftover. Do I have to connect the card to something internally?


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    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    Velvety wrote: »
    Just got this machine up and running. Very happy with it but the graphics card isn't being detected. I installed windows 7 and under the screen resolution only the on-board graphics are showing up, rather than the lovely Sapphire HD 6850. Same when I run dxdiag.

    Any idea why this might be?

    Have you made sure its seated properly? Have you plugged in the PCI-E power cable to it?

    When you turn on the computer does the fan on it turn on?


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    Velvety
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Velvety


    Have you plugged in the PCI-E power cable to it?

    That's exactly what I haven't done. I'll google around now for a guide. Thanks.


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    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Velvety wrote: »
    Just got this machine up and running. Very happy with it but the graphics card isn't being detected. I installed windows 7 and under the screen resolution only the on-board graphics are showing up, rather than the lovely Sapphire HD 6850. Same when I run dxdiag.

    Any idea why this might be?

    Did you install the drivers?


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    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    Velvety wrote: »
    That's exactly what I haven't done. I'll google around now for a guide. Thanks.

    Its not difficult. The cable will look like one of these:
    pci-e-power-connector-2.jpgpcie6plus2index.jpg

    You need to plug it into the slot that looks like this, in the upper right corner. It might not be in the same place on your graphics card, but it will look the same.
    amd_6850_power.jpg


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    Velvety
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Velvety


    Thanks a lot for your quick help. Strangely it's now been detected. Coming up in dxdiag and my resolution changed dramatically.

    That picture of the cable you posted is exactly what I have here, but it must be a spare one or something?


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    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    Velvety wrote: »
    Thanks a lot for your quick help. Strangely it's now been detected. Coming up in dxdiag and my resolution changed dramatically.

    That picture of the cable you posted is exactly what I have here, but it must be a spare one or something?

    Ah it was probably drivers so. Make sure to get the latest version of the Catalyst drivers.


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    #21
    Velvety
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Velvety


    Yeah it must have been, it took a couple of restarts for them to be recognised though. Again, thanks for the help.


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    aN.Droid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭aN.Droid


    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    doesn't work with Windows 7. its drivers are in beta stage.

    It works just fine, I use it. The drivers aren't even needed as windows 7 has the drivers from install. At least every time I format the wireless works without any updates.


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    #23
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Velvety wrote: »
    I have a strange looking cable leftover. Do I have to connect the card to something internally?
    Velvety wrote: »
    That picture of the cable you posted is exactly what I have here, but it must be a spare one or something?

    Like this?

    172366.jpg

    You don't need that if you've already connected it directly with the PCI-E cable from the PSU.

    Be sure to install the latest CCC.
    http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx


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    #24
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I'm gunna make something like this.. Does the cooling paste matter - like will any of the pastes do or is one preferable?


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    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I'm gunna make something like this.. Does the cooling paste matter - like will any of the pastes do or is one preferable?

    The difference between pastes is fairly minimal, using an expensive one will only make a difference of 3-5C at most.


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    #26
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    deconduo wrote: »
    The difference between pastes is fairly minimal, using an expensive one will only make a difference of 3-5C at most.

    Was gunna ask you to see if you could login with my details and build it, but I think I have it sorted now. But..

    When I select the graphics card from the configurator it doesn't find the one listed in this thread :(

    Any ideas??


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    #27
    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Was gunna ask you to see if you could login with my details and build it, but I think I have it sorted now. But..

    When I select the graphics card from the configurator it doesn't find the one listed in this thread :(

    Any ideas??

    Don't use the configurator. Just put the parts in your basket and then add this at the end to get them to build it for you:

    http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=746&agid=829


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    #28
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    deconduo wrote: »
    Don't use the configurator. Just put the parts in your basket and then add this at the end to get them to build it for you:

    http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=746&agid=829

    Oh alright

    Cheers man :)<3


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    #29
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    decon, would you login to my account and check my basket - just make sure i have everything i need for the pc before i order it to be built?

    i have a monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers already, so i just need the tower that what not that was listed. i can pm you on my login details.


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    #30
    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    dlofnep wrote: »
    decon, would you login to my account and check my basket - just make sure i have everything i need for the pc before i order it to be built?

    i have a monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers already, so i just need the tower that what not that was listed. i can pm you on my login details.

    You can just use Fluffy's script to copy and paste the basket here, safer than giving someone your details :)

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056303834


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    #31
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Chrome was acting the bollocks and wouldn't parse the JS. Had to use firefox. Here ya go.

    Total build cost: €428.46 + €30 shipping
    AMD Phenom II X4 955 Box, Sockel AM3 €93.37
    Xigmatek Asgard II Midi Tower - black/silver, ohne Netzteil €32.35
    Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W €41.00
    MSI 870-C45, Sockel AM3, ATX, PCIe €47.10
    4GB GEIL Value Plus PC3-10660 DDR3-1333 CL9 €18.25
    Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB, SATA II (HD502HJ) €34.44
    Samsung SH-222AB bare schwarz SATA €16.63
    Sapphire HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 PCI-Express €125.32
    Rechner - Zusammenbau €20.00


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