Freeman Megamerge

Tom Young · 09-01-2015 1:44am

Many of the people in these groupings seem to think that you don't have to repay money that you borrow. The evil banks are to blame for pretty much every ailment in society and that is their fundamental thesis.

Well, that is wrong.

Borrowed money must be paid back. Reckless lending and reckless borrowing happened, that is a fact. Neither can be condoned. That said, borrowed money must be paid back.

In case anyone reading this from one of the Landy League, 8th zone of reality or Freedom from All Debt missed the point: BORROWED MONEY MUST BE PAID BACK.

Land ownership in this country is a condition akin to a disease. Suggesting for a moment that there is a duty of care owed by banks, is WRONG, and furthermore, latent and indeed patent conditions do not enter into the equation when you sign a contract, if they did, the vast majority of borrowers wouldn't get a red cent.

Tom

Grolschevik · 09-01-2015 1:52am

I suspect it comes from an intellectually illiterate flip through the first few chapters of a first-year economics textbook that elicits the reaction "banks do what now?!"

Probably the same time they checked the Coles notes for Locke out of their local library.

YFlyer · 09-01-2015 11:58am

Tom Young wrote: »

Many of the people in these groupings seem to think that you don't have to repay money that you borrow. The evil banks are to blame for pretty much every ailment in society and that is their fundamental thesis.

Tom

They claim that the banks can give loans for mortgages without the banks having the money themselves. In other words the banks produced the money out of thin air.

whippet · 09-01-2015 12:39pm

YFlyer wrote: »

They claim that the banks can give loans for mortgages without the banks having the money themselves. In other words the banks produced the money out of thin air.

but ironically they are not prepared to have the asset or property acquired through thin air go back ....

Ben Gilory is right back on his freeman track ... he is posting up antics from the Bobby of Sludds of whatever ....

Still no word as to how he is getting on with the impeachment of the judge who had the gall not to believe Gilroy's lies.

Beaner1 · 11-01-2015 10:22am

This is hilarious.

https://www.facebook.com/irishselfhelpzone/photos/a.186681038155352.1073741828.186111024879020/410483055775148/?type=1&theater

Our friends at The Hub posted up a heavily processed image that shows a man holding a baseball bat and are calling for a lynch mob. A cursory glance would show it to be actually a post sticking out of the ground. Their supporters are showing their true colours in the comments with calls for the RA to deal with them.

In other news it appears their head man (Beades?) has been served legal threats for organising lynch mobs and this seemed to put hi in his place.

donvito99 · 12-01-2015 12:44am

Beaner1 wrote: »

This is hilarious.

... calls for the RA to deal with them.

Very true, this for instance written by a middle aged "full time mummy";

This didn't happen when IRA was in business wat did all the lads an lassies die for that cúnt 2 try put Irish on street

whippet · 12-01-2015 11:27am

interesting snippet from the Indo a while back on Jerry Beades

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/claptrap-from-the-floor-not-wanted-at-lucindas-bash-29950788.html

On the way out of the hall, I bump into Jerry Beades. "Today was an interesting exercise in democracy," he says.

"People want a change. Political parties aren't offering it. So people are scratching around looking to see if anyone will lead direction. People are so despondent about politics in Ireland – 700,000 people in this country are in financial distress."

I tell him that his mates in Drumcondra like Bertie will be in distress reading his comments.

Has Jerry – who was on The Fianna Fail National Executive – fallen out of love with the party?

"I haven't fallen out of love with Fianna Fail at all," he insisted.

"People in Irish politics need to get back to their roots.

"I was – and still am – a friend of Bertie's but I would not have been a friend of his politics," added Jerry, who is the chairman of Friends Of Banking Ireland.

Losty Dublin · 13-01-2015 12:34pm

Dear oh dear oh dear

https://www.facebook.com/TirNaSaor/photos/a.162439977128868.31899.158329270873272/865673836805475/?type=1&theater

And if you think thats bad, look at this comment...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205641484139326&set=p.10205641484139326&type=1&theater

Little CuChulainn · 13-01-2015 2:10pm

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Dear oh dear oh dear

https://www.facebook.com/TirNaSaor/photos/a.162439977128868.31899.158329270873272/865673836805475/?type=1&theater

And if you think thats bad, look at this comment...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205641484139326&set=p.10205641484139326&type=1&theater

What about this one

and how about that poster je suis charlie, looks more like jesus is charlie. In military charlie also means patsy. Do we have a subliminal doubletalk here?

BornToKill · 13-01-2015 11:06pm

Hurray, or should that be yee-haw, the Country Music Awards are safe from protest now that Ktech has secured an injunction against the protests planned.

In other news, Byron Jenkins on the Hub seems extremely put out that he is being being summoned to the High Court on Friday 'for exercising my democratic and constitutional right to free speech and free assembly'. If someone did the same thing to him as he is doing to Ktech he would be labelling it harassment and intimidation.

whippet · 14-01-2015 12:28am

They are all to happy to gloat about firing legal documents around like confetti but when a proper legal document lands on their desk they turn in to timid little mice playing the poor me card ... I'm only trying to be a little guy against the big bully boys.

It will be interesting to see if the guy who has been banging on about how and why he set up this bunch of merry men will suddenly tell the court he is just a minion and is only a friend of some bigger boys who organise this. Much like how Gilroy tried unsuccessfully to convince a judge that he was an accidental spectator on the stud farm .. While wearing a hi-vis with the "anti eviction task force" plastered on the back.

Although Gilroy is apparently impeaching that judge for not believing him .... !

mrs vimes · 14-01-2015 10:56am

Definite smell of Fremen BS from this tool:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/film-case-and-face-jail-judge-tells-court-306832.html

Essien · 14-01-2015 11:12am

mrs vimes wrote: »

Definite smell of Fremen BS from this tool:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/film-case-and-face-jail-judge-tells-court-306832.html

A long time ago in a boards thread far far away, a poster once described freeman as "adult toddlers". Reading this type of thing just reminds me that I'll probably never find a more fitting description for them.

Losty Dublin · 14-01-2015 12:10pm

Bad news if you have kept January 21st free....

SpaceSasqwatch · 14-01-2015 12:48pm

or in laymans terms...what part of no do you not understand mister maguire:)

Chiorino · 14-01-2015 12:50pm

I'm becoming ever more convinced that to be a freeman you have to undergo some form of brain surgery that makes you oblivious to normal social function and behaviour.

Oryx · 14-01-2015 2:15pm

mrs vimes wrote: »

Definite smell of Fremen BS from this tool:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/film-case-and-face-jail-judge-tells-court-306832.html

What I love about this, is that the guy probably got treated much more harshly than he would have if he had dealt with the court correctly. And yet his mates clapped him on the back for being a big eejit.

Losty Dublin · 14-01-2015 4:23pm

Oryx wrote: »

What I love about this, is that the guy probably got treated much more harshly than he would have if he had dealt with the court correctly. And yet his mates clapped him on the back for being a big eejit.

Credit where it's due. Cork has shown a real knack of finding the creme de la creme of Ireland's Freemen.

Robbo · 14-01-2015 4:32pm

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Credit where it's due. Cork has shown a real knack of finding the creme de la creme of Ireland's Freemen.

Elects them too. I wonder how Claire Cullinane's getting on as a Councillor?

Losty Dublin · 14-01-2015 5:08pm

Robbo wrote: »

Elects them too. I wonder how Claire Cullinane's getting on as a Councillor?

Great. So far she is behind this monumental decision.

http://frontpagenews.ie/2014/10/east-cork-great-spot-many-motor-home-tourists-mr-donovan-tells-east-cork-journal/

And she was disowned by her own kind.

https://www.facebook.com/irishselfhelpzone/posts/380057992150988

How the world turns like a sovereign seal.

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2015 9:01pm

Losty Dublin wrote: »

How the world turns like a sovereign seal.

Not this year.

Losty Dublin · 14-01-2015 9:36pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Not this year.

But it says so here that it's on :pac:

http://entertainment.ie/show-/Mansion-House-Dublin/96th-Annual-Turning-of-The-Sovereign-Seal-of-Dail-Eireann/event-2734733.htm

BornToKill · 15-01-2015 12:06am

It's getting really embarrassing now over on the Hub as Byron simultaneously pleads with and threatens the security company taking him to court on Friday. Complete misunderstanding of professional negligence as he warns his opponents barristers of their code. Throw in failure to understand what a 'static' licence from the PSA covers and it is seriously cringeworthy. Should be good on Friday though.

relax carry on · 15-01-2015 12:49am

BornToKill wrote: »

It's getting really embarrassing now over on the Hub as Byron simultaneously pleads with and threatens the security company taking him to court on Friday. Complete misunderstanding of professional negligence as he warns his opponents barristers of their code. Throw in failure to understand what a 'static' licence from the PSA covers and it is seriously cringeworthy. Should be good on Friday though.

Had a read through a few posts. It's quite sad really.

SpaceSasqwatch · 15-01-2015 12:51am

relax carry on wrote: »

Had a read through a few posts. It's quite sad really.

a load of freemen rubbish too..somrone telling him to bring the 1919 constituition with him and have billy maguire as a witness to him signing some form....

Losty Dublin · 15-01-2015 1:20am

SpaceSasqwatch wrote: »

a load of freemen rubbish too..somrone telling him to bring the 1919 constituition with him and have billy maguire as a witness to him signing some form....

This is a preview of what Friday's court hearing may well be like.

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Pro Hoc Vice · 15-01-2015 8:46am

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/film-case-and-face-jail-judge-tells-court-306832.html

About time these nutters got the taste of the inside of a cell.

Best line "Garda Griffin said yesterday that he contacted the defendant’s wife who told him she went to work on Monday morning leaving him at home to mind their sick child but that he left the sick child at home alone."

hullaballoo · 15-01-2015 1:59pm

Losty Dublin wrote: »

This is a preview of what Friday's court hearing may well be like.

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Sorry, but the contents of that video are not allowed.

Robbo · 15-01-2015 2:08pm

BornToKill wrote: »

It's getting really embarrassing now over on the Hub as Byron simultaneously pleads with and threatens the security company taking him to court on Friday. Complete misunderstanding of professional negligence as he warns his opponents barristers of their code. Throw in failure to understand what a 'static' licence from the PSA covers and it is seriously cringeworthy. Should be good on Friday though.

relax carry on wrote: »

Had a read through a few posts. It's quite sad really.

SpaceSasqwatch wrote: »

a load of freemen rubbish too..somrone telling him to bring the 1919 constituition with him and have billy maguire as a witness to him signing some form....

Poor old Byron is so confident of his lay-lawyerin' abilities that when it was his own house a subprime bank came after, he employed professionals.

For the sake of completeness, the others named in that injunction include old favourites of ours Gerry Beades, Tom D'arcy and Damien Gibney. I'd expect there to be some kind of fracas tomorrow. Also, Ben Gilroy is due back on February 3rd in relation to proceedings issued by Permanent TSB in relation to some goings on at his brother's house.

ArmaniJeanss · 15-01-2015 3:17pm

BornToKill wrote: »

It's getting really embarrassing now over on the Hub as Byron simultaneously pleads with and threatens the security company taking him to court on Friday. Complete misunderstanding of professional negligence as he warns his opponents barristers of their code. Throw in failure to understand what a 'static' licence from the PSA covers and it is seriously cringeworthy. Should be good on Friday though.

As a non-legal observer it seems to me that they (and Ben) always do this thing of talking about how they have a wonderful slam-dunk case on a novel piece of law, their supporters then turn up and holler them on, facebook reports afterwards talk about how the stunned opposition barrister was torn a new arse by the cleverness of their argument, the clerk quoted as saying he'd never seen anything so well presented, lawyers came from others courts to see them in action (this last bit probably true but for reverse reasons).
Then 72 hours later the judgement goes against them, they express amazement and say anyone who was there will know is has to be corruption on the part of the judiciary and they mumble about arrests and lynchings.

Its a very entertaining circle really.

Freeman Megamerge

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