Freeman Megamerge

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Fred Swanson wrote: »

Jail is no deterrent to some people.

For some people jail is welcomed as it somehow cements their own self importance and acts as a smokescreen to hide their actual failings. Might seem a little silly but these guys already were put away for contempt .. and were 'rescued' by the hero Gilroy ... just giving them more fuel to post on social media.

When you have shag all else to do a few free days accommodation and attention is welcome.

Losty Dublin

The Hub has a new enemy today; the tireless homeless campaigner that is Father Peter Mcverry.

His crime? Using a legal firm who have been engaged in some repossession cases. Even by their standards this is a low one.

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Losty Dublin wrote: »

The Hub has a new enemy today; the tireless homeless campaigner that is Father Peter Mcverry.

His crime? Using a legal firm who have been engaged in some repossession cases. Even by their standards this is a low one.

smacks of desperation ... they need to keep their market share and any competition must be discredited.

The junket fact finding mission to barcalona was put on the stoppers ... must be the lure of better shopping in sterling region closer to xmas.

Serjeant Buzfuz

The non doctor in the 4 Courts today losing a Judicial review despite filing an affidavit the length of War and Peace and claiming 19 Judges were conspiring against him....

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Serjeant Buzfuz wrote: »

The non doctor in the 4 Courts today losing a Judicial review despite filing an affidavit the length of War and Peace and claiming 19 Judges were conspiring against him....

it's very quite on the western front today ...

nuac

Serjeant Buzfuz wrote: »

The non doctor in the 4 Courts today losing a Judicial review despite filing an affidavit the length of War and Peace and claiming 19 Judges were conspiring against him....

Word processing has led to great prolixity in documents

Prolix affidavits used to be penalised. Perhaps the rules should be amended to provide that after setting out the facts, that ranting, scurrilous remarks and wild accusations of everything against everybody be printed out in a non-standard coloured ink, or on non-standard coloured paper.

Would save a lot of time for those who have to read these.

Royalties for this idea to the Solicitors Benevolent Society

Graham

Hmmm, smells familiar:

A Dublin man, who today lost his €750,000 home for failing to keep up repayments on his loan, told a judge he was suing Bank of Ireland Mortgage Bank for damages for loss of consortium with his late wife.

told the bank he had no problem making mortgage repayments to any entity that could show it had legal status in the matter.

there had been various claims made in Mr Cahill’s affidavits which had been opened to the court and none of which had been substantiated in any way, shape or form.

Source: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/bank-refutes-mans-claims-harassment-led-to-wifes-suicide-35239286.html

ohnonotgmail

Graham wrote: »

Hmmm, smells familiar:

A Dublin man, who today lost his €750,000 home for failing to keep up repayments on his loan, told a judge he was suing Bank of Ireland Mortgage Bank for damages for loss of consortium with his late wife.

Source: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/bank-refutes-mans-claims-harassment-led-to-wifes-suicide-35239286.html

does that mean he is suing BOI because his wife left him when he lost the house?

Graham

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

does that mean he is suing BOI because his wife left him when he lost the house?

It looks like the husband was trying to claim harassment of his late wife by the bank “had led to her suicide.”

ohnonotgmail

Graham wrote: »

It looks like the husband was trying to claim harassment of his late wife by the bank “had led to her suicide.”

Ah. Probably should have read the article before posting.

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the most interesting points from that for me are the courts decision that other 'legal' actions are not to put a stay on the proceedings by the bank

Most of these 'groups' who offer advise use the delay tactics and counter actions to drag stuff on for years.

Graham

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Most of these 'groups' who offer advise use the delay tactics and counter actions to drag stuff on for years.

While inevitably stacking up the costs notionally awarded against the very people they're claiming to help.

TJJP

Might be of passing interest.

http://courts.ie/Judgments.nsf/09859e7a3f34669680256ef3004a27de/69dcb13a3dcb195d8025807c004449a3?OpenDocument

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TJJP wrote: »

Might be of passing interest.

http://courts.ie/Judgments.nsf/09859e7a3f34669680256ef3004a27de/69dcb13a3dcb195d8025807c004449a3?OpenDocument

Indo report on same

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/fake-kidnap-developer-removed-as-executor-of-partners-will-35263789.html

expectationlost

anybody know anything about the occupation of the Kube building including council offices in Donegal http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/garda%C3%AD-can-summons-all-alleged-squatters-at-council-office-1.2900402 http://donegalnews.com/2016/11/council-staff-refused-entry-disputed-kube-building/

chewey louis

He claims to have received legal advice regarding the council staff gaining access and how they must insure all policies are up todate, this is an amazing level of attention to detail and he should be commended for his concern for the council staff, now that he has shown this level of compliance maybe now he will take a look at the injunction that was granted against himself 3 years previous and have the same attention to detail where this matter is concerned

expectationlost

expectationlost wrote: »

anybody know anything about the occupation of the Kube building including council offices in Donegal http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/garda%C3%AD-can-summons-all-alleged-squatters-at-council-office-1.2900402 http://donegalnews.com/2016/11/council-staff-refused-entry-disputed-kube-building/

Seventy gardaí secure building occupied by three people, court told http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/seventy-garda%C3%AD-secure-building-occupied-by-three-people-court-told-1.2903071#.WE7-KWWm7VQ.twitter can the charge be passed on to Gildea would he ever pay?

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straight from the Ray Hall school of 'Official Letter' method of dodging debts:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/man-fails-to-stop-bank-over-arrears-428997.html

Serjeant Buzfuz

Heroes or queue jumpers?

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/occupied-finglas-apartments-had-been-bought-for-social-housing-1.2920295

Owryan

Attention seekers more likely.

Hmmmm 17yrs on the housing list, surely in that time he has done something to improve his situation instead of just waiting for a house to be given to him

Losty Dublin

Father Time hasn't even knocked on the door yet and we've been double booked already for January 21st next.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1790905647816146/

http://www.billymcguire.com/events/turning-the-seal.html

Little CuChulainn

Didn't the seal turning take place outside the Mansion House last year?

Losty Dublin

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Didn't the seal turning take place outside the Mansion House last year?

Yep. Booted out for some reason

tonyroc

Very interesting were the Hubets right on this point? Will this stop evictions for now? What is going on?

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/master-of-the-high-court-condemns-house-repossessions-1.2922890

chewey louis

Won't make a blind bit of difference,

Mrs cockett

The silence is deafening!

chewey louis

So guys is the master and the hubbers right? It looks like Lord Bryon made his detractors look like a right bunch of clowns, where are the ones who laughed at the idea that the hubbers might be right, come on guys be big enough to come out and give your opinion, let's face it you were not shy on previous occasions 😂😂😂

Thargor

Mrs cockett wrote: »

The silence is deafening!

chewey louis wrote: »

So guys is the master and the hubbers right? It looks like Lord Bryon made his detractors look like a right bunch of clowns, where are the ones who laughed at the idea that the hubbers might be right, come on guys be big enough to come out and give your opinion, let's face it you were not shy on previous occasions 😂😂😂

Would be interesting to hear what imaginary victory has you both gloating here over this story or what material difference you expect it to make to your agenda? Guy seems to be another populist moron with zero actual power, good post about it over on the Property Pin:

ChickenParmentier wrote:

Mad Ed Honohan, who likes to think of himself as a judge, but who in reality is just a jumped-up public servant is at it again with pronouncements above his station.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/master-of-the-high-court-condemns-house-repossessions-1.2922890

Master of the High Court condemns house repossessions

Thousands of orders granted in the Circuit Court to repossess homes may be open to challenge because these courts are not applying EU law, the Master of the High Court has said.

Edmund Honohan criticised the Government for failing to properly protect people facing repossession and said it was instead allowing the courts to “pump people into homelessness”.

“There is a lack of joined up thinking and a huge amount of ignorance,” he told The Irish Times.

Circuit courts “up and down the country” were failing in their role as “agents” of the EU as current procedures did not ensure application of EU consumer legislation, he said, adding that this was the “fault of the Irish State”.

Edmund Honohan says Government allowing courts ‘pump people into homelessness’

He said county registrars – who grant the majority of repossession orders in the circuit courts – “should not be dealing with these cases at all”, as they had neither the legal training nor the legal discretion to apply EU law.
“The rules and procedures of the Circuit Court need to be updated to allow for a hearing with regard EU legislation on unfair contract terms . . . in every possession case . . .EU law is not an optional extra.”

In particular the 1993 EU directive on unfair contract terms in consumer contracts was not being properly applied. This failure, according to the European Court of Justice, breached consumers’ rights.
Legal discretion

In its 2013 ruling on the Aziz case – which had been referred to it by the Spanish courts – the ECJ, said: “...the national court is required to assess of its own motion whether a contractual term falling within the scope of the directive is unfair, compensating in its own way for the imbalance which exists between the consumer or the seller or supplier.”

The Circuit Court should be taking the initiative to assess whether mortgage contracts were fair before making possession orders, he said, noting that only a judge had the legal discretion to do this.

“So we have a county registrar sitting in wherever... and she is now an agent of the EU. She is obliged, of her own motion i.e. without the defendant present, to look at the mortgage contract and see if it’s fair. Does she have the skills to do that? No. Is there any case law to help her? No. Does she have any idea what she is doing? No. So what is happening is she sees there is no defendant in court and makes the order.”

The legality of a possession order was “often touch and go..It is not as clear-cut as county registrars think they are”.

“Something the Government could do is change the procedures in the courts to put a brake on the number of families they are pumping into homelessness.”

Lest anyone forget Ed’s previous pronouncements and the many times he has overstepped his powers and shot his stupid mouth off:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/injunction-granted-against-master-of-high-court-271195.html

Injunction granted against Master of High Court

The High Court has granted an injunction against the Master of the High Court, Edmund Honohan, following his decision to refer papers on a case to the DPP for a perjury investigation.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/senior-court-official-acted-outside-his-powers-when-he-sought-to-refer-3m-mortgage-case-to-dpp-high-court-rules-31151173.html

Senior court official acted outside his powers when he sought to refer €3m mortgage case to DPP, High Court rules

A senior court official acted outside his powers when he sought to refer a case involving €3m worth of mortgages to the DPP, a High Court judge ruled.

Master of the High Court Edmund Honohan, who deals with procedural and other matters relating to cases on their way to a full judge of the High Court, also acted irrationally concerning his claim there was perjury in relation to a solicitor's undertakings providing security for the €3m loans, Ms Justice Iseult O'Malley said.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/court-official-exceeded-power-in-striking-out-debt-case-31163547.html

Court official exceeded power in striking out debt case

A SENIOR court official exceeded his power when he struck out a three-quarter of a million Euro debt case despite clear High Court judgments he could not do so, the Court of Appeal said.

Master of the High Court Edmund Honohan has no jurisdiction to dismiss contested cases over debts owed to banks, the court said. The Master deals with procedural and other matters relating to cases on their way to a full judge of the High Court.

chewey louis

Just because the master referred some criminal activity to the authorities you hold that against him, this is a case involving perjury from a bank official, he was wrong to report such a crime because as we all know it goes on daily in the courts, I have even proved it in a high court case but the judge shrugged the shoulders as if nothing happened. Lads either EU law is relivent in Ireland or it's not and the hubbers were making various claims and got slated on here and the best you can come back with is the master overstepped his mark will you cop on lad and snell the coffee, when it comes to reposesions the courts ignore the law and side on the banks who of course can do what they want in this corrupted kip

RayCun

What is your point?
That the law, "correctly " interpreted, is on your side?
Or that the letter of the law doesn't matter, because the powers that be will ignore it if inconvenient?