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    #6602
    cobhguy28
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭cobhguy28


    GM228 wrote: »
    Holy Mary wrote: »
    Anybody any idea of the Supreme Court case averred to in the article?

    Wouldn't mind a browse.

    https://www.ihrec.ie/app/uploads/2018/04/Tracey-Amicus.pdf

    No judgement yet to read.

    I wonder is this the same Kevin Tracey (aka the "Serial Litigant") we have known in the past, although he usually took cases in Dublin courts from what I remember and Judge McCarthy is a Fermoy judge I believe so it may not be.
    That is the same case its ongoing for years. However it is a criminal contempt case


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    #6603
    cobhguy28
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭cobhguy28


    Holy Mary wrote: »
    https://extra.ie/2018/05/10/news/irish-news/yvonne-walsh-refusing-food-mountjoy-prison

    Whats happening here then.
    Ben is on the case now. Another person jailed. Ben saying his normal nonsense like " nobody can be jailed under positive law"  I got a laugh saying that  criminal legislation is positive law and he said it comes from the common law I got a bigger laugh telling him that common law derived from judgment is positive law as well
    "positive law
    noun
    statutes which have been laid down by a legislature, court, or other human institution and can take whatever form the authors want." 
    He did not seem to have the most basic understanding of what common law is or what positive law is. He does talk a big game


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    #6604
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    One has got to wonder what agenda these guys have.

    Sketchy details and emotive click bait as per.


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    #6605
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 13,137 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Holy Mary wrote: »
    https://extra.ie/2018/05/10/news/irish-news/yvonne-walsh-refusing-food-mountjoy-prison

    Whats happening here then.

    That's easy. Beades has lost his marbles again :)


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    #6606
    cobhguy28
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭cobhguy28


    Holy Mary wrote: »
    One has got to wonder what agenda these guys have.

    Sketchy details and emotive click bait as per.
    Well ben is in mortgage arrears for years and close to losing his house. He no job but drives all around the country "helping people" He said he is putting the smiths up rent free in a house until there case is won. So I guess he mush be getting a old of good will/ donations to keep him going.


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    #6607
    Fred Swanson
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    #6608
    Robbo
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    At least 2 suspended sentences but he's always groveled and recanted to avoid a trip to the Joy. I'm unsure as to how the community service ever went.

    I suppose it's like all of these guys, they're true believers when it's someone else with their arse is on the line but less so when it's theirs.


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    #6609
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Does it suit the authorities to turn a blind eye? Seems there is no regulation whatsoever.

    Time will tell how their own cases progress.

    Will be interesting to observe.


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    #6610
    Stonedpilot
    Registered Users Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Stonedpilot


    Robbo wrote: »
    At least 2 suspended sentences but he's always groveled and recanted to avoid a trip to the Joy. I'm unsure as to how the community service ever went.

    I suppose it's like all of these guys, they're true believers when it's someone else with their arse is on the line but less so when it's theirs.

    Know he fought them, his success is a grey area.

    know another guy who keeps quiet hasn't paid a cent off his mortgage in 5 years. not one. He's still fighting them mind.


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    #6611
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Stonedpilot wrote: »
    Know he fought them, his success is a grey area.

    know another guy who keeps quiet hasn't paid a cent off his mortgage in 5 years. not one. He's still fighting them mind.

    I can't understand why it has to drag out so long. Why not have the court case in a year or so of non payment?


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    #6612
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I can't understand why it has to drag out so long. Why not have the court case in a year or so of non payment?

    Too efficient, also that would mean people who don't pay might actually suffer.


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    #6613
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Hindsight is 20/20 vision.

    Why would anybody pay?

    https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/variable-rates-so-high-because-thousands-are-choosing-not-to-pay-their-mortgages-36919488.html


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    #6614
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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    #6615
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭whippet


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    Brendan Burgess. Enough said.

    Him of ‘fill your boots’ with bank shares fame


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    #6616
    Anthracite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Anthracite


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    He's not wrong though on this occasion. Strategic default is a totally rational play in the Irish market.


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    #6617
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Is he lying or telling the truth?


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    #6618
    Fred Swanson
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    #6619
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    I daresay history will tell the tale.


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    #6620
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Owryan wrote: »
    Too efficient, also that would mean people who don't pay might actually suffer.

    You're right. The system is far from efficient.

    Dragging it out encourages others to do the same.


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    #6621
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Keep an eye on Ticketmaster because the hottest tour of the summer is about to kick off. Ben Gilroy's planning on touring the nation in order to tell you how much he knows about Constitutional property rights.

    I'd love to know how he'll be spinning events in Balbriggan into a victory and a vindication of his own lack of knowledge.


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    #6622
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭whippet


    Tickets will be free no doubt as these people all live on free air and don’t need to eat


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    #6623
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    Robbo wrote: »
    Ben Gilroy's planning on touring the nation in order to tell you how much he knows about Constitutional property rights.

    Is this the community service sentence mentioned earlier?

    Unusual :pac:


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    #6624
    cobhguy28
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭cobhguy28


    Robbo wrote: »
    Keep an eye on Ticketmaster because the hottest tour of the summer is about to kick off. Ben Gilroy's planning on touring the nation in order to tell you how much he knows about Constitutional property rights.

    I'd love to know how he'll be spinning events in Balbriggan into a victory and a vindication of his own lack of knowledge.
    He will do what he always does. Claim the evictions are illegal and The judges are committing fraud. And the desperate will follow.


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    #6625
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    If this article is correct, his own case must be soon.

    How will that go?


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/gilroy-accuses-sub-prime-lender-of-conspiracy-to-defraud-1.3424404


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    #6626
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭whippet


    I wonder when we will hear the first ‘reports’ from this thread’s community of eye witness accounts of ballot box tampering and corruption ... it is strange that almost all of them are on the pro-life side.

    In other news .. apparently there has been load of chemtrails down around the lord’s manor and reports of higher than usual case of sniffles ... nothing to do with hay fever of course.


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    #6627
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭whippet


    Mr Gilroys reaction to the overwhelming will of the Irish people seems to fly in the face of his years of campaigning for Direct Democracy and the need for a referendum for everything ... he even made a comment about how 51% of people can force their will on the 49% ... really just shows what a charlatan he really is


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    #6628
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,426 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    whippet wrote: »
    Mr Gilroys reaction to the overwhelming will of the Irish people seems to fly in the face of his years of campaigning for Direct Democracy and the need for a referendum for everything ... he even made a comment about how 51% of people can force their will on the 49% ... really just shows what a charlatan he really is

    Always worth remembering that one of DDIs core ideas about democracy as put in the constitution by Gilroy/Whitehead/Darcy etc was that in 'social referendums' that "DDI propose the introduction of a voting majority which requires a percentage, for example 67% to 33%, for a referendum to be passed."
    On this page.
    Basically just an attempt to stop any social change in Ireland and keep their dream of an ultra Catholic country going.

    Him and his ilk were never about democracy.


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    #6629
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Deflections. deflections. None of you are getting it.


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    #6630
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 13,137 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Robbo wrote: »
    Keep an eye on Ticketmaster because the hottest tour of the summer is about to kick off. Ben Gilroy's planning on touring the nation in order to tell you how much he knows about Constitutional property rights.

    Hurry up; I had to get my ticket on Seatwave.


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    #6631
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Hypothetical situation.

    If the end was nigh, and a certain few ''gurus'' were poised to admit defeat in the''corrupt''Courts of Eire,

    whilst silently preparing to pay off, in full, their own ''alleged'' mortgage arrears....

    How would they explain such actions to their loyal supporters ?

    Or indeed to the revenue Commissioners?

    Or would it matter?


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