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Freeman Megamerge

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    #6632
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 13,137 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Another Freeman of note bites the dust. Sadly Ben Gilroy SC didn't appear to defend him :)

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-who-caused-over-500k-of-damage-and-loss-of-earnings-to-toll-system-on-m50-jailed-36969409.html


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    #6633
    fxotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    Losty Dublin wrote: »
    Another Freeman of note bites the dust. Sadly Ben Gilroy SC didn't appear to defend him :)

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-who-caused-over-500k-of-damage-and-loss-of-earnings-to-toll-system-on-m50-jailed-36969409.html

    Same lad:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/property-tax-hunger-strike-3-985839-Jul2013/

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/man-fined-60-at-trim-district-court-for-preventing-water-meter-installation-1.1822249

    Didn't realise he was a Freeman. Thought he was just a malcontent.


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    #6634
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 13,137 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    fxotoole wrote: »

    Didn't realise he was a Freeman. Thought he was just a malcontent.

    That's the first thing you need if you want to be a Freeman :)


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    #6635
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Any word on how a certain Lords case went today?


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    #6636
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Holy Mary wrote: »
    Any word on how a certain Lords case went today?
    Adjourned into July.

    I can see the Facebook ramblings of various stars of this thread in this recent judgment. It begins with what looks suspiciously like a strategic default and escalates into charging the bank €1m for not responding to a letter and fetishizing "wet ink". Classic Freemanism.

    Things then drift back into the semi-respectable end of things where some people would like to think they dwell. This involves non-particularised nuggets of international law that someone's spent 15 minutes Googling and thinks they've hit gold.


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    #6637
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Billboard keeping quiet about Monday too. Funny how they are not posting their own ''appearances''.


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    #6638
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭whippet


    Holy Mary wrote: »
    Billboard keeping quiet about Monday too. Funny how they are not posting their own ''appearances''.

    What was Monday ? I’ve lost track at this stage


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    #6639
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Monday coming.


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    #6640
    cobhguy28
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭cobhguy28


    You cant beat Ben for nonsense he come out with. This one is great,      
    https://www.facebook.com/ben.gilroy.96?hc_ref=ARQ8VSMKFH-neeOJH33ZjQVGzXrz75ysNyjenb6JZ0SZis7NDMS2gbCUvACuoGsfs8M

    [font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]"A common law wife! [/font]
    [font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]A common law wife has no rights in a statutory court, but counter claim and bring your claim under common law and she has all rights under natural law. A marriage license is statist law better known as statutory law. God’s law is supreme law better known as natural law. Mark 10:9 “Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate”[/font]
    [font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Yvonne Walshe needs to switch the court because statist courts take away your God given rights with the pretence of upholding them. Switch the court by way of counterclaim to a common law court of record then she would still be married".[/font]


    [font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]So no understanding of the Constitution, The Courts, How the common law works or the different theories of Natural law and what they mean. Some times I think its a big windup. [/font]


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    #6641
    Anthracite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Anthracite


    I love how Ben starts from the premise that his god is clearly the correct one. It's like it's too obvious to even question.


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    #6642
    Grassey
    Registered Users Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Grassey


    Anthracite wrote:
    I love how Ben starts from the premise that his god is clearly the correct one. It's like it's too obvious to even question.


    I don't think he's that picky. Any God will do, because all divine laws are natural laws...

    But Ben, what if the natural laws conflict? Clearly that's a failing on the human vessels interpreting it, so let's go with whichever version you want so long as it jingles my charity bucket


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    #6643
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭whippet


    I was reading Harry Potter for the kids last night and most of it makes more sense than that drivel


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    #6644
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 13,137 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    whippet wrote: »
    I was reading Harry Potter for the kids last night and most of it makes more sense than that drivel

    That strawman?


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    #6645
    fxotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    I'm a layperson who doesn't speak Legalese and even I can see that Ben's talking out of his hoop there


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    #6646
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭whippet


    He is so active online these days you’d be forgiven for thinking that he is lining up another attempt of getting elected. We are not too far from the next general election.


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    #6647
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Quiet about their own affairs though. These lads.


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    #6648
    cobhguy28
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭cobhguy28


    Holy Mary wrote: »
    Quiet about their own affairs though. These lads.
    Well Ben is up today in Court Start,   Mortgages Designated Activity Company - V - Bernard (Otherwise Ben) Gilroy And Sarah Jane Gilroy : Lavelle,   I wounder why he never tells people to come and see him in action, whens it is his own case.  


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    #6649
    FingerDeKat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭FingerDeKat


    cobhguy28 wrote: »
    Well Ben is up today in Court Start, Mortgages Designated Activity Company - V - Bernard (Otherwise Ben) Gilroy And Sarah Jane Gilroy : Lavelle, I wounder why he never tells people to come and see him in action, whens it is his own case.
    Because Benny Gimproy doesn't practice what he preaches.


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    #6650
    GM228
    Registered Users Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    cobhguy28 wrote: »
    I wounder why he never tells people to come and see him in action, whens it is his own case.

    Too busy talking about Palestinian flags, a "womens place" referendum, destroying the environment and Irish Water, pretty much everything else he knows sweet f*** all about basically.


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    #6651
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,726 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    The proceedings against Gilroy and his wife are ejectment proceedings. Whatever anyone thinks of Ben, you'd have to have sympathy for his wife and family.


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    #6652
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    Gerry is back in town.


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    #6653
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭whippet


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    The proceedings against Gilroy and his wife are ejectment proceedings. Whatever anyone thinks of Ben, you'd have to have sympathy for his wife and family.

    You would to an extent .. however he hasn’t paid a cent towards the mortgage in almost a decade from what I can find. Surely his family would at least try and convince him that trying to come to an arrangement with the lender and secure a roof over the families head is a good idea.


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    #6654
    Stroke Politics
    Registered Users Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Stroke Politics


    whippet wrote: »
    You would to an extent .. however he hasn’t paid a cent towards the mortgage in almost a decade from what I can find. Surely his family would at least try and convince him that trying to come to an arrangement with the lender and secure a roof over the families head is a good idea.


    I feel sorry for his family, but I think that they have been totally taken in by him as well, and believe his guff. It's not going to end well....


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    #6655
    cobhguy28
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭cobhguy28


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    The proceedings against Gilroy and his wife are ejectment proceedings. Whatever anyone thinks of Ben, you'd have to have sympathy for his wife and family.
    Yes for his wife and children, However Ben has been around for at least 5 or 6 years that I know of traveling the country sprouting his nonsense, building his followers, doing radios shows, YouTube shows ect. Maybe instead of all that he could of got a job and took care of his family. He is obviously well able to speak, so he might excel at a sales roles.


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    #6656
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,726 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Yes, I did say specifically for his wife and family. Not Ben the charlatan.


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    #6657
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    his wife is an adult


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    #6658
    Chiorino
    Registered Users Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Chiorino


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    The proceedings against Gilroy and his wife are ejectment proceedings.Whatever anyone thinks of Ben, you'd have to have sympathy for his wife and family.

    Could anyone elaborate on exactly what ejectment proceedings involve as in is it just another stage in the process or does it mean he is very, very close to to having the property reposessed?


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    #6659
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Chiorino wrote: »
    Could anyone elaborate on exactly what ejectment proceedings involve as in is it just another stage in the process or does it mean he is very, very close to to having the property reposessed?


    I'm a bit confused by this as well. I thought ejectment proceedings related to people who were renting a property. If a mortgage company was pursuing you it would be possession proceedings.


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    #6660
    Holy Mary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    You may be wise to contact a Lawyer about that ohnonotgmail.


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    #6661
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    I'm a bit confused by this as well. I thought ejectment proceedings related to people who were renting a property. If a mortgage company was pursuing you it would be possession proceedings.
    It sounds to me like they were renting from a third party, that third party had the property re-possessed and the bank (read: vulture fund) took over as landlord - to whom the individuals in question failed to pay rent.


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