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Freeman Megamerge

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭whippet


    Another day, another angry mob occupying a house. This time it wasn’t even where they lived to begin with and it’s alreadh been the subject of a Contempt of Court case.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/new-owner-and-tenants-have-been-forced-out-of-dublin-property-court-told-1.3776450?mode=amp

    Another client who will see the inside of our prison system .. when you have Mckenzie friends like these why would you need enemies


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Big news, everybody. Ben is going to be released tomorrow!!

    All he need to do is to win his Habeus Corpus tomorrow in the High Court but that's just a formality, as we all know. Sure what could possibly go wrong?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭whippet


    I’m not sure how that application works apart from they have to show the detainment is illegal ... but what are the odds of Ben grovelling to the court, attempting to re-purge his contempt and promising to clean the windows in the local SVP shop to regain his freedom .. all the whole declaring it a victory ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    whippet wrote: »
    I’m not sure how that application works apart from they have to show the detainment is illegal ... but what are the odds of Ben grovelling to the court, attempting to re-purge his contempt and promising to clean the windows in the local SVP shop to regain his freedom .. all the whole declaring it a victory ?

    The George Formby Defence.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    How can it possibly go wrong?
    Now that Jerry is back in town.

    https://www.facebook.com/IrishMediaAlliance/videos/383555248877386/


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Holy Mary wrote: »
    How can it possibly go wrong?
    Now that Jerry is back in town.

    https://www.facebook.com/IrishMediaAlliance/videos/383555248877386/

    Taking a few moments off from Ben's picket line; sure it's only up the road.


    Edit; Gerry found it in his heart to slip down to the moorings of the SS High Court today with Ben to represent/support/roar loudly/tear the judge a new arsehole or two.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    Taking a few moments off from Ben's picket line; sure it's only up the road.


    Edit; Gerry found it in his heart to slip down to the moorings of the SS High Court today with Ben to represent/support/roar loudly/tear the judge a new arsehole or two.

    Gilroy released on bail overnight. Jerry beades presented a habeus corpus application on his behalf and application continues tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    Gilroy released on bail overnight. Jerry beades presented a habeus corpus application on his behalf and application continues tomorrow.

    472219.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Johnny Red Cab


    19 days to spring their friend. Jerry and the gang are slipping up badly. ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,586 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    19 days to spring their friend. Jerry and the gang are slipping up badly. ;)

    Is Jerry not based out in the middle east these days?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus




    No insult meant to Edmund Honohan himself but Sean Nós being sung in his tribute is hilarious. Skip to 13:00 for the good stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    CrankyHaus wrote: »


    No insult meant to Edmund Honohan himself but Sean Nós being sung in his tribute is hilarious. Skip to 13:00 for the good stuff.

    You could have warned us that it was 14 minutes of two men caterwauling and moaning out of tune, followed after by Seán Nós.

    Was that Anna Harvey wandering around in the background in Penney's finest tweed, and can't somebody tell her that Grouse season isn't until the Autumn?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    A tad longwinded. Is there an executive summary?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    CrankyHaus wrote: »


    No insult meant to Edmund Honohan himself but Sean Nós being sung in his tribute is hilarious. Skip to 13:00 for the good stuff.

    Thanks for that. Have to pop out for some painkillers now!
    Their involvement is puzzling to say the least.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    Judgment in Ben's habeus corpus application being delivered in one week on 12th Feb... He's out on bail till then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Judgment in Ben's habeus corpus application being delivered in one week on 12th Feb... He's out on bail till then.

    In theory, is there much of a success rate in such hearings obtaining a man his freedom?

    In reality, could Beades be thrown into the slammer as well?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Johnny Red Cab


    In theory, is there much of a success rate in such hearings obtaining a man his freedom?
    You would be surprised how often committal warrants are ruled invalid. They could have very technical legal mistakes that invalidate them. Invalid warrant equals unlawful detention.
    In reality, could Beades be thrown into the slammer as well?
    Almost zero chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭Holy Mary


    You would be surprised how often committal warrants are ruled invalid. They could have very technical legal mistakes that invalidate them. Invalid warrant equals unlawful detention.

    Almost zero chance.

    No doubt a victory will be claimed either way, for now.

    The Judgement will be the proof in the pudding.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Re Habeas Corpus application
    It is a while since I studied Latin, but afaik the correct spelling here is "Habeas = Let him have the body.
    I wonder is writng "Habeus" part of some cunning Freeman plan, like leaving out a comma,
    afaik Peter Kelly is inter alia a Latin scholar and will be able to cope


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    You would be surprised how often committal warrants are ruled invalid. They could have very technical legal mistakes that invalidate them. Invalid warrant equals unlawful detention.

    .

    It would be funny if Ben's appeal was thrown out owing to his using the wrong shade of blue ink to sign the Habeas Corpus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    There must be some merit to his application as he has been allowed remain on bail pending a ruling.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    The judgment in relation to the preliminary motions in Ben's defamation action has been published.

    It didn't start well and went downhill from there. Firstly, it was found that Ben couldn't seek orders on behalf of Vincent Byrne. Secondly, the orders he sought were "impossibly broad and vague". Finally, he did little to put forward any objection to being associated with the Sovereign movement.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    TJJP wrote: »
    Robbo wrote: »
    This man was previously linked to disturbances at Limerick Court House which resulted in the daily list no longer being published on the internet.

    He's also been associated with either the promotion or running of a branch of The Hub in that part of the world. Here's a post detailing one of the conferences he spoke at early in 2018.
    A habeas corpus application was made on his behalf by Neil from Lay Litigation Ireland on January 25th. It was refused.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    This is proper old-school Freemanism, which is a bit tangential to the recent discussions here, but every time I see a new example of this spreading, I feel the need to share and remind. I've seen this being reposted in Ireland, by the way...

    https://www.facebook.com/DarkSideOfTheOccult/posts/1031843343654777
    Commonwealth of Australia, written in Common Law English text, has nothing to do with the COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CORPORATION, which is registered on the (USSEC) UNITED STATES SECURITIES & EXCHANGE COMMISSION, WASHINGTON D.C. deriving from the District of Columbia.

    National's and Citizen's are two completely different entities. Understand both exist.

    Are you in the office of a Creditor? who has true Nationality to his or her own country? who has a birth right over the Mineral & Energy Wealth of the land you were born on to?

    Or are you in the office of a Debtor? and a Citizen to your own land? who was invited aboard a foreign Citizen-SHIP (CITY-OF-LONDON) as a Creditor? but failed to come back on to land from sea (The Holy See) at the Age of Majority (21) and remained inside the Babylon Trust (Baby for long time) as a Debtor? and committed an act of Adultery by becoming an Adult? because you remained holding on to someone else's property, the Registrar General of Births, Deaths & Marriages, who own's all STATE-BIRTH Certificates issued, meaning it was always there property, instead of holding the true correct documentation, which is the Certificate Of Birth (of the Creditor Trust) so you became a legal name? a person? a human? Any living entity which has become attached to another entity becomes an incorporation, like when your Christian Name and SURNAME become joined together as one, all incorporations are the property of the Vatican, and you have surely become Lost at Sea, never likely to return as a true National, to the land you were born on to?

    https://justiniandeception.wordpress.com/


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    That reads like somebody writing a parody of sovereign citizens.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭eldamo


    That reads like somebody writing a parody of sovereign citizens.

    it read as proper freeman until the holy see then it got a bit waterford whispersy


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭ezra_


    I really feel for the solicitors and barristers who have to actually deal with that sort of crap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    That reads like somebody writing a parody of sovereign citizens.
    eldamo wrote: »
    it read as proper freeman until the holy see then it got a bit waterford whispersy

    It's disturbing when it's hard to tell...

    The guy's linked website:
    An Account of “Grammatical Crimes” of Corporate Governance, courts and enforcement agencies by the use of DOG-LATIN: a “debased” criminal immoral foreign written language that renders all such DOG-LATIN documents, tendered by such corporate private governments, as “counterfeit”. DOG-LATIN is unhyphenated all uppercase Latin symbolic text that follows the grammatical rules of English and not the grammatical rules of Latin. It is the language of the Illiterate, (Blacks Law Dictionary 4th Edition) it looks just like English, “IT LOOKS JUST LIKE THIS” but grammatically, it is the deception right under your nose… It is the poison in the text, it is the corruption in the contract. If you hold any part of this debased criminal all uppercase text of the dead corporations, such as your Driver License, you are claiming membership to the Underworld, criminal counterfeit, corrupt, corporate world of the Dead Corporations. You become a criminal.
    The “presumption” of a foreign military occupation of our country under the foreign control of Rome:
    etc etc etc


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  • Registered Users Posts: 489 ✭✭the world wonders


    Thousands of Russians have joined something called the ‘Union SSR’ trade union, calling themselves Soviet citizens and refusing to pay their bills
    Dyomkin says the state still has to prove that it in fact owns the property in question. “My house isn't on the city's balance sheet,” he says. “The land, for example, hasn't been transferred from the jurisdiction of the USSR to the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation. If it was transferred, where's the deed of transfer?”
    ...
    Kus doesn’t recognize Russia’s Constitution, either, arguing that it was “promulgated but not published.” He says laws need to be published in an official newspaper of record within 10 days of adoption, but this procedure wasn’t observed with the Constitution, supposedly meaning that the Soviet Constitution is still active in Russia.
    Can't imagine Putin putting up with this kind of thing for long.


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