Freeman Megamerge

Hotblack Desiato

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

Alistair from UnitedPeople has released a full book of Covid/5G poetry. Sadly I cannot find the link for the life of me.
Also see that alt right hero of Broadsheet, Bodger has posted a full Jeff Rudd piece.

"table minister" Wrong piece of furniture, Jeff.

Everything Jeff writes reads like it's been to Google Translate through a few languages and back again.

Jeff is full-on loon but alt-right he is not, I don't often visit Broadsheet so what have they posted which is alt-right? Most of the commenters there are right-wingnuts but that's true of the Irish Times too...

L1011

One specific contributor does a lot of "just asking questions" style posting from various alt-right sources. They also kept pushing Gemtrails long after others had stopped.

Losty Dublin

A beauty salon in Balbriggan decided to reopen for business today. Her rationale for opening include...

• Constitutional family rights.
• Inalienable rights to do stuff.
• Rights to earn money and she has to earn money and she needs money.
• Common Law.
• Gardaí put on warning about what they swore in their oaths.

A free brow tint and wax if you can correctly guess who was on hand to oversee it all

whippet

Losty Dublin wrote: »

A free brow tint and wax if you can correctly guess who was on hand to oversee it all

And another person arrested after having Ben at their side waving ‘legal’ stuff ....

Flange/Flanders

whippet wrote: »

And another person arrested after having Ben at their side waving ‘legal’ stuff ....

Jese he's a narcissistic creep. State of him beside her as she made that statement. Tho the rubbish she was coming out with as well.

whippet

Flange/Flanders wrote: »

Tho the rubbish she was coming out with as well.

in fairness she probably hadn't a notion what she was saying - coached by the guff master general in person

harr

whippet wrote: »

in fairness she probably hadn't a notion what she was saying - coached by the guff master general in person

This is the issue, I feel she was taken in by **** he told her , I see that other one was also knocking about this morning, Dee Wall and she had organised a protest for today at salon leaving the guards will option but to make an arrest.
Taking advantage of a situation where a business owner is desperate to get open again.
It was clear yesterday from the statement she had that is was written by Gilroy

drunkmonkey

Will someone bring me up to speed on what Positive law is and article 41.11 and why it's supercedes the statuary instrument used to bring in all these new laws according to Ben Gilroy.

Scuid Mhór

Losty Dublin wrote: »

A beauty salon in Balbriggan decided to reopen for business today. Her rationale for opening include...

• Constitutional family rights.
• Inalienable rights to do stuff.
• Rights to earn money and she has to earn money and she needs money.
• Common Law.
• Gardaí put on warning about what they swore in their oaths.

A free brow tint and wax if you can correctly guess who was on hand to oversee it all

Imagine being clueless enough to think you can outsmart everyone else.

Flange/Flanders

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

Imagine being clueless enough to think you can outsmart everyone else.

I do have sympathy for her situation but she probably would have got more sympathy if she hadnt started spouting that common law rubbish.

What pisses me off most tho is that a$$holes like Ben and Dolores go stirring up the crowd but never seem to get arrested themselves (well Dolores was a few weeks ago but it hasnt shook any sense into her)

Losty Dublin

whippet wrote: »

in fairness she probably hadn't a notion what she was saying

Nor has he.

whippet

the inevitable GoFundMe page has been set up - almost €2.5k raised so far.

Gilroy seems to have full access to loads of facebook pages even though his main page is suspended and Tiger Reborn is booted off. there is this nugget from Gilroy on the Yellow Vests Page

https://fb.watch/3SbEnVQG13/

Those rights are superior to all positive law, which the Guards swore to uphold...... They have all stepped out of their office and are abusing the Irish Constitution and the rights contained therein

You can see how the desperate and gullible will latch on to words like these - as if they mean anything.

Peregrinus

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Will someone bring me up to speed on what Positive law is and article 41.11 and why it's supercedes the statuary instrument used to bring in all these new laws according to Ben Gilroy.

I don't know (and don't really care) what Ben Gilroy thinks positive law is. But, in general:

Positive law is law which is law only because someone in authority had declared or decreed it - so Acts of the Oireachtas, ministerial regulations, local authority by-laws, court orders, contractual obligations, the Constitution.

It's contrasted with natural law, which is law because that's just the way it is, right? Examples of natural law:

— The law of gravity. Newton's laws of motion. Etc.

— More controversially, in some theories of law: fundamental legal norms, like the right of a people to self-government, the right to self-defence, fundamental human rights. These things are held to be natural because they are considered to arise out of the nature of the human person.

Natural law trumps positive law. So, parliament can pass a law abolishing gravity, but the law of gravity will still prevail. Or, the Reichstag can pass a law saying that the government can transport Jews to Poland and murder them with impunity, but this is itself fundamentally illegal and those who perpetrate it can still be held to account, legally. (You can see why this gets controversial.)

Lenar3556

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Will someone bring me up to speed on what Positive law is and article 41.11 and why it's supercedes the statuary instrument used to bring in all these new laws according to Ben Gilroy.

As above, and it’s his belief that the SI (and lots more like it) are repugnant to the constitution.

The courts have however held that ‘constitutional rights’ are not in all cases absolute, and in any case the SI has the presumption of constitutionality unless an until such time as found to be otherwise by the courts.

drunkmonkey

Peregrinus wrote: »

It's contrasted with natural law, which is law because that's just the way it is, right? Examples of natural law:

— The law of gravity. Newton's laws of motion. Etc.

That's a good enough explanation for me:D

ArmaniJeanss

So if I'm reading it right their case is that her natural law 'right to work to provide for herself' is being violated.
Does it not fall down as a concept in that she is still perfectly free to work, just not in her chosen field.
Like my asbestos manufacturing plant, head shop franchise and candy cigarette factory were all shut down by 'positive law', but realistically that's not a fight I'll win on the basis that it denies me a right to work.

whippet

It’s the second wave of Freeman ideology .. as their traditional ‘sovereign’ arguments have been laughed out of court last around the world ... Natural and Positive law is the new loophole they are trying to cling on to.

The woman in question was at pains to explain that she had no advice or assistance from anyone with regards to her actions / protests when she was interviewed by chippy come constitutional expert Von last night.

It was almost as if she really wanted to stress the point that Ben’s appearance at the PR stunt was pure coincidence and that her legal interpretation just happened to be the same as his

Because of course we all know Ben does not give legal advise .. he just has opinions that people keep asking him for

carfinder

I actually witnessed the arrests on day 2 if this nonsense in Balbriggan. The crowd of protestors were not locals for the most part and some were exhibiting very strange behaviour - I would say some of them have serious mental health problems. Those making up the mob are to be pitied more than anything - its those that are directing the mob that need to be taken to task.

TheAnalyst_

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

"table minister" Wrong piece of furniture, Jeff.

Everything Jeff writes reads like it's been to Google Translate through a few languages and back again.

Jeff is full-on loon but alt-right he is not, I don't often visit Broadsheet so what have they posted which is alt-right? Most of the commenters there are right-wingnuts but that's true of the Irish Times too...

Bodger who pretty much runs the site now is a full on Q-Anon disciple. Anti vax, global elite and the rest.

You have to follow the history of the site in the last few years as its subtle at times. Asking questions always and then in the comments he is a bit more full on. Cowardly approach and you see Gilroy and others do it for some of their wilder posts. What do you make of this folks?

Chiorino

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

Bodger who pretty much runs the site now is a full on Q-Anon disciple. Anti vax, global elite and the rest.

You have to follow the history of the site in the last few years as its subtle at times. Asking questions always and then in the comments he is a bit more full on. Cowardly approach and you see Gilroy and others do it for some of their wilder posts. What do you make of this folks?

Ben is a cute hoor in the sense that everything he does is calculated as to how it can benefit him. From the start of his whole crusade, it was using poor saps on the verge of losing their houses as cannon fodder test cases to see which worked best in his own house case.

Jeff is basically an unemployed (unemployable now) Walter Mitty type character who thinks he's of way more importance or standing than he is and has got steadily worse in the last few years. There's an argument that actual mental illness of some sort may be involved unfortunately.

For Forks Sake

Another day, another inevitable consequence.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/couple-in-80s-have-bankruptcy-extended-by-five-years-1.4496157

In extending their bankruptcy period to November 5th, 2025, being six years from the date of their adjudication (the statutory one year period plus the five year extension), he said there had been non co-operation by both bankrupts, a failure to deliver a statement of affairs and “complete non-disclosure” contrary to their legal obligations.

A five-year extension seems appropriate, “if not relatively modest”, but he did not have to consider whether a longer period was required because five years was the period sought.


He said section 85A(5) of the Bankruptcy Act, might be considered “unduly inflexible” because its “rather questionable” provisions prevent an extended period of bankruptcy being further extended even for “serious and ongoing” non-cooperation.

While that seems to incentivise obstruction and “does not immediately strike one as properly balanced with the legal, constitutional and ECHR (European Convention of Human Rights) rights of creditors, “further consideration of that point will have to await another day”, he said.

He said neither of the bankrupts participated in the remote hearing of the extension application last month but Mr Grimes, in a lengthy email to the court, set out applications he wished to make, including for an adjournment and “free legal aid”.

No basis was set out for an adjournment and Mr Grimes had done nothing the court could see to progress any “genuine” application for legal aid, he said.

Nor had Mr Grimes established a factual premise for his claim that remote hearings are “unconstitutional, null, void and of no legal effect”, he said. Mr Grimes was quite prepared to sit at a computer typing out emails about why he did not want to attend but was “unwilling to click on a single link that would have brought him into the virtual courtroom”, the judge added.

A claim by Mr Grimes of being “under sedation” when the case was listed last month for him to show cause against the adjudication in bankruptcy merely highlights the “mutating nature” of his adjournment applications, the judge said. The claim of sedation was not backed up by a medical certificate, either then or now.

Mr Grimes, he further held, had made out no grounds for the court to set aside the High Court’s 2019 adjudication of the couple as bankrupts.

This lad seems to have several decades of bothering the courts under his belt.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/engineer-fights-to-have-rail-ban-lifted-1.347643

Dr Michael Grimes says he is the company's "best customer" but it has banned him from travelling with it to prevent him finding out "the true facts" about the new CWR system. Iarnród Éireann says Dr Grimes poses "a grave threat" to the safety of its railway operations and his publications about it "are not merely obsessive in their content but extremely damaging", containing "scurrilous and untrue" allegations levied against management, the board of directors and Government ministers.

The decision to bar Dr Grimes from travelling on the company's trains was taken on safety grounds and Dr Grimes had no right, contractual or otherwise, to insist he be given access to the rail service,

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/high-court-asked-to-ban-newspaper-for-advertising-sex-1.247672

An engineer has argued before the High Court that the Examiner newspaper should be banned for carrying advertisements for "adult massage". The Examiner was the leading newspaper in Ireland "advertising sex", it was alleged.

In an application drawing attention to alleged inconsistencies in decisions of the Censorship of Publications Board, Dr Michael Grimes, of Washington Street West, Cork, applied for leave to challenge, in judicial review proceedings, a decision of the board of November 6th last refusing to consider his complaint that the Examiner should be banned.

https://www.thejournal.ie/mcelhinneys-courts-2573042-Jan2016/

A HIGH COURT Judge has referred complaints made against a well known Co Meath bridal retail outlet to the gardaí.

The complaints stem from an attempt made by a bank-appointed receiver to take possession of McElhinney’s of Athboy, the shop in question, and his subsequent removal from that shop.

Mr Justice Paul Gilligan said very serious allegations of criminality made by receiver Barry Forrest, who was appointed receiver over McElhinney’s by Bank of Ireland, and counterclaims by the store’s general manager Mr Neal Sweeney and businessman Dr Michael Grimes, who says he is in occupation of the store, should be the subject of an investigation “at the highest level” by the gardaí.

Mr Forrest said he and his personnel peaceably entered the store on Friday 16 January last, on foot of an order granting him possession made by the High Court in 2014.

Mr Forrest said he was perfectly entitled to enter the premises, but he and his staff were violently intimidated and threatened before being forced out the following day by a mob of up to 40 people. He claimed the mob gathered at the shop at the request of Mr Sweeney via social media.

The claim is disputed by both Mr Sweeney and Dr Grimes. They say the premises was taken by force by a gang of men described as “thugs, goons and gangsters” who had intimidated and upset staff at the shop.

In a sworn statement Dr Grimes said the “chief thug” used by the bank and receiver in their attempt to take possession is from Northern Ireland and has “allegedly been a member of an illegal organisation”.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/high-court-president-hits-out-at-honohan-for-grotesque-decision-37919707.html

A senior judge has criticised a decision by the Master of the High Court Edmund Honohan to appoint an 82-year-old convicted criminal to represent the best interests of children in a legal dispute.

High Court President Peter Kelly said having such a person in that position would be "grotesque" and "improper".

Mr Justice Kelly made the comments as he set aside an order made by Mr Honohan in January appointing Michael Grimes as guardian ad-litem, or next friend, to three children whose parents have been embroiled in litigation with the Revenue Commissioners.

It was the second time Mr Honohan appointed Mr Grimes, a former company director from Innishannon, Co Cork, to represent the best interests of the children.

Hotblack Desiato

Michael Grimes, an experienced personal litigant

Subtle. Very subtle

Mr Justice Humphreys said the couple had granted a mortgage in 1988 over a dwelling at Kells, Co Kerry, to Northern Bank (Ireland) ltd and, some 33 years later, had still not discharged their liabilities to Danske, Northern’s successor in title.

Let me guess - they're still living in that house and haven't paid a cent in years, right??


Now, what on earth could Honohan have been thinking appointing this guy as a guardian ad litem in a case involving Revenue given the following in the Indo article?

Mr Grimes pleaded guilty last year to a number of criminal offences under the Taxes Consolidation Act 1997. The charges related to unpaid VAT liabilities of €340,000.

He was given a two-and-a-half year sentence, which was suspended on a number of conditions.

These included that he would desist from interfering with the Revenue in its assessment and collection of taxes, either on his own behalf or on behalf of others. Another condition was that he refrain from vexatious correspondence with the Revenue or its agents.

Losty Dublin

Aha; the Doctor of Grime as he is occasionally referred to in the bus preservation circles. Even by Freeman standards he's particularly colourful.

https://michaelgrimeskellstransportmuseum.wordpress.com/2011/01/01/grimes-is-a-sex-shop-company-secretary/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/attempt-may-be-made-to-reopen-jessbrook-centre-1.25877

ohnonotgmail

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Aha; the Doctor of Grime as he is occasionally referred to in the bus preservation circles. Even by Freeman standards he's particularly colourful.

https://michaelgrimeskellstransportmuseum.wordpress.com/2011/01/01/grimes-is-a-sex-shop-company-secretary/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/attempt-may-be-made-to-reopen-jessbrook-centre-1.25877

that first story is hilarious.

Hotblack Desiato

Seems his beef with the Examiner wasn't so much puritanical as commercial

Losty Dublin

More on Grimes.

https://www.lawsociety.ie/News/News/Stories/fake-firm--grimes--company/

Ste.phen

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that first story is hilarious.

Look at the rest of the stories on that first site too 😬

Thargor

Would love to know what he did to the author of that Wordpress blog, surprised CAB haven't done him for the brothel laundering stuff. Maybe they work for Iarnrod Eireann

whippet

it seems that Ben's Gofundme campaign has hit the skids -

The latest update from the MakeChangeHappen facebook page (Ben and Vin's new venture) is that GFM have terminated the campaign.

I wonder if any of the money pledged has been withdrawn yet or has the €16k+ just all been refunded to the donors?


https://www.gofundme.com/f/makechangehappen?fbclid=IwAR29HzitdB1GRt4Yg_sRQH7SJbRzdQ_wsS3palE25TV3qkConYXB5UpsJAs

For Forks Sake

Now there's a name that used to decorate this thread, back true to form

https://twitter.com/IrlagainstFash/status/1372220802016407555