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Cant Tune in Freesat

  • 11-08-2011 3:36pm
    #1
    FiresaleBuyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭


    Im trying to install a new Freesat installation. Im only picking up four Arabic channels on Astra 28.2. Cannot get any other channels. Anybody have any suggestions as to what the problem could be?


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  • #2
    gtg60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭gtg60


    Sounds like you're not on 28E...


  • #3
    FiresaleBuyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭FiresaleBuyer


    Yeah, thats what I thought but the receiver is set to Astra 28.2. The channel search function on Astra, just finds four arabic channels, and fails on the rest of the searches.

    I had signal intensity of 86%
    and signal quality of 74%


  • #4
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    FiresaleBuyer wrote: »
    Yeah, thats what I thought but the receiver is set to Astra 28.2. The channel search function on Astra, just finds four arabic channels, and fails on the rest of the searches.

    I had signal intensity of 86%
    and signal quality of 74%


    I know your receiver might be set to 28.2 but are you sure that your sat dish is pointing at it properly?


  • #5
    FiresaleBuyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭FiresaleBuyer


    black francis wrote: »
    I know your receiver might be set to 28.2 but are you sure that your sat dish is pointing at it properly?
    I dont know for sure.

    Im checking the orientation angle again with dishpointer.com now. Thanks.


  • #6
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    FiresaleBuyer wrote: »
    I dont know for sure.

    The elevation bracket is indicating around 26 degrees. And Ive used Dishpointer.com to locate the correct direction.

    Im using a satellite finder. The alarm only activates at the current orientation so I presume Im on the strongest satellite.


    Well,
    I'd say the problem is with your dish orientation so.

    I set up on freesat myself last year, there's no easy way to align the dish properly - I had an app for an iphone that showed the sat positions and got it roughly pointed in the correct direction. Then it was a case of trial an error to fine tune the position. You really need two people, one person to be looking at the tv while you move the dish about until you've got a proper signal.


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  • #7
    FiresaleBuyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭FiresaleBuyer


    black francis wrote: »
    Well,
    I'd say the problem is with your dish orientation so.

    I set up on freesat myself last year, there's no easy way to align the dish properly - I had an app for an iphone that showed the sat positions and got it roughly pointed in the correct direction. Then it was a case of trial an error to fine tune the position. You really need two people, one person to be looking at the tv while you move the dish about until you've got a proper signal.

    OK, cheers. Ill have to do a lot of back and forth from the dish to the TV, since its just me here.


  • #8
    MrSneeg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭MrSneeg


    FiresaleBuyer wrote: »
    Im trying to install a new Freesat installation. Im only picking up four Arabic channels on Astra 28.2. Cannot get any other channels. Anybody have any suggestions as to what the problem could be?

    try a UK postcode instead of an Arabic one :D


  • #9
    FiresaleBuyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭FiresaleBuyer


    MrSneeg wrote: »
    try a UK postcode instead of an Arabic one :D
    The device didnt ask for a postcode. And there doesnt seem to be any option in the menus or settings for entering a postcode. The receiver is a Ferguson Ariva 120 HD Combo.

    I presume because its a "Combo" then its already configured for Ireland, hence no postcode required.


  • #10
    St Senan
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 3,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭St Senan


    FiresaleBuyer wrote: »
    The device didnt ask for a postcode. And there doesnt seem to be any option in the menus or settings for entering a postcode. The receiver is a Ferguson Ariva 120 HD Combo.

    I presume because its a "Combo" then its already configured for Ireland, hence no postcode required.



    Freesat = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freesat

    Generic Free To Air Receiver = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTA_Receiver


  • #11
    FiresaleBuyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭FiresaleBuyer


    scaller wrote: »
    Freesat = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freesat

    Generic Free To Air Receiver = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTA_Receiver
    Is it possible to upgrade the software to turn it into a Freesat box, in order to receive british channels?

    The Ferguson 100E is advertised by some Irish satellite shops as "Freesat", so I thought I was buying a Freesat receiver.


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  • #12
    tryfix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭tryfix


    You can sometimes think you're on a particular satellite because you get a signal strength reading on the transponder info for that satellite . That transponder can be common to a number of satellites , so you can be tuned into a satellite and get a signal strength reading telling you it's on another one . Astra 2 is roughly where the sun is at 11 o clock in the morning with the dish tilted slightly forward from vertical . If your close to that now , keep trying to tune in and search each signal you lock onto until you get the english channels . There are three satellites in a row very close together at that location , the furthest east of them is Astra 2 .


  • #13
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,042 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    FiresaleBuyer wrote: »
    Is it possible to upgrade the software to turn it into a Freesat box, in order to receive british channels?

    The Ferguson 100E is advertised by some Irish satellite shops as "Freesat", so I thought I was buying a Freesat receiver.

    You need to align your dish correctly to receive the Free Satellite channels such as BBC, ITV etc etc.


  • #14
    AstralTV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭AstralTV


    FiresaleBuyer wrote: »
    Is it possible to upgrade the software to turn it into a Freesat box, in order to receive british channels?

    The Ferguson 100E is advertised by some Irish satellite shops as "Freesat", so I thought I was buying a Freesat receiver.


    no it is not possible, 'Freesat' is a brand name and is licensed to various manufacturers of satellite receivers such as humax, grundig , goodmans, manhattan,etc

    the above boxes are unlike FTA boxes in that they update channels etc and have a full 7 day epg,

    selling a ferguson as freesat is completely misleading

    calling FTA channels freesat channels is also misleading as a sky box with no sub can receive the same FTA channels but you dont call them sky channels,

    freesat boxes have the 'freesat' logo on them, any FTA box without a 'freesat' logo is just a FTA satellite receiver.


  • #15
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    AstralTV wrote: »
    no it is not possible, 'Freesat' is a brand name and is licensed to various manufacturers of satellite receivers such as humax, grundig , goodmans, manhattan,etc

    the above boxes are unlike FTA boxes in that they update channels etc and have a full 7 day epg,

    selling a ferguson as freesat is completely misleading

    calling FTA channels freesat channels is also misleading as a sky box with no sub can receive the same FTA channels but you dont call them sky channels,

    freesat boxes have the 'freesat' logo on them, any FTA box without a 'freesat' logo is just a FTA satellite receiver.




    What you say is true, but OP is wondering if he will get the Freesat channels on his receiver, the answer is yes - you probably will be able to without a software update.


  • #16
    Booms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Booms


    Get your dish aligned first.
    Deal with the box afterwards.

    There is a satellite very close to 28.2E at 26 degrees that has arabic channels, and another at 30.5 degrees.

    f you're still receiving them - ie have moving pictures/sound and if you can tell us what the names of the arabic channels are, and maybe the frequencies they're on, someone will tell you how to align the dish correctly for 28.2

    As I'm sure you're aware by now, the secret is to make very small movements of the dish at a time.:D


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