sub forum request: christianity / clerical child abuse

raymon

Dear boards

I refer to the Christianity forum under soc

At the moment all threads containing any reference to child abuse are squeezed into a abuse megathread quarantine

I think these posts deserve their own section.

The megathread is a mess of a melting pot and all debate is stifled

philologos

I'm not mad on the idea of a separate forum, but if one were going to go forward with this idea, I would make a general childhood abuse forum under Personal Issues rather than a forum as a subforum of the Christianity section.

raymon

philologos wrote: »

I'm not mad on the idea of a separate forum, but if one were going to go forward with this idea, I would make a general childhood abuse forum under Personal Issues rather than a forum as a subforum of the Christianity section.

I am specifically talking about the issue of clerical abuse , no so much a personal issue more of an issue with the church.

Christianity forum is definitely the logical place

Ickle Magoo

philologos wrote: »

I'm not mad on the idea of a separate forum, but if one were going to go forward with this idea, I would make a general childhood abuse forum under Personal Issues rather than a forum as a subforum of the Christianity section.

-1.

As a sub-forum of PI, an advice forum, there would be zero room for discussion which presumably is what the posters posting about the clerical abuse scandals wish to do?

Even as an advice forum I'd say that those affected by abuse are much better off getting specific and trained help for over-coming the issues they are dealing with than throwing it open to random strangers on the internet.

D

-1

I feel that a sub forum would be inflammatory as not all people who use the Christianity forum are part of the clergy and even then this refers to a minority of clergy (I hope).

If the purpose of it would "no [sic] so much a personal issue more of an issue with the church." Then I feel that with previous moderations that religion bashing threads started in Christianity by atheists were moved to the atheism/agnostic forum and Islam bashing threads were closed in Islam forum should set the trend.

In such a case if this were to go ahead I think a entirely separate forum from Christianity would be a better option. Although the amount of resources and support out there that specialise in supporting victims of clerical sexual abuse reduce the need, I feel, for boards to have it.

IMO I feel that the mega-thread with any pertinent links to support services edited into the first post in that thread would/is the best course of action.

raymon

D wrote: »

-1



In such a case if this were to go ahead I think a entirely separate forum from Christianity would be a better option. Although the amount of resources and support out there that specialise in supporting victims of clerical sexual abuse reduce the need, I feel, for boards to have it.

IMO I feel that the mega-thread with any pertinent links to support services edited into the first post in that thread would/is the best course of action.

You are missing the point completely . The purpose of such a thread would not be to provide resources and support for victims. A victim of abuse would probably not use boards for this purpose

Were you joking ?

D

No, I wasn't joking.

Saying that a victim would not use boards is agreeing with my third paragraph.

Also my third paragraph (yes I know they are short) addresses what you see as a place for discussion. Edit: that is to say a completely separate forum, not a sub-forum.

Edit2: Although I am still -1 about it, I feel that the current form of discussion via a mega-thread is a better way to deal with this topic.

Edit3: To further clarify my point I feel that a sub-forum for clerical abuse in a christianity forum is inflammatory much in the same way a sub-forum on the westboro baptist church or the klu klux klan would be. I feel that these topics are better addressed in threads, although in a semi-regular reoccurring way it should be "mega-threads". The same way islamic extremists shouldn't be a sub-forum in islam.

Lets move away from religion:
video game inspired violence shouldn't be a sub-forum in games;
political corruption shouldn't be a sub-forum in politics;
lolcats shouldn't be a sub-forum in pets;
parental abuse shouldn't be a sub-forum in parenting;
useless teachers shouldn't be a sub-forum in education;
Urolagnia shouldn't be a sub-forum in After Hours.

The clerical abuse scandal, the fact that it was so widespread, happened in so many different places to so many different people and the fact that it was covered up in so many areas is terrible. But to create a sub-forum within the Christianity would irk many christians who had no involvement I would think, they may see it as rubbing it in.

D

I see that a similar thread has emerged in the forum request forum. Can this be merged with it please?

looksee

The Christianity forum is for posts about and relevant to Christianity. Clerical child abuse is not an aspect of Christianity, it is about perverted people and their bosses who used their place in society to pursue their fantasies and get away with it. Until recently. What they did was not what Christianity is about, and I say that as non-Catholic and mostly lapsed Christian.

'Christianity' cannot be held responsible for these people, they corrupted a belief system to suit their own purposes.

LoLth

closing this thread. its not feedback its a forum request.