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Mega Winter Tyres thread, all questions here!!

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    #92
    cjmcork
    Registered Users Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭cjmcork


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Here are two i'd be looking at in your size: http://www.tyres-pneus-online.ie/car-tyres-CONTINENTAL/CONTI-WINTERCONTACT,TS,830/205,55,R16,91,T.html, http://www.tyres-pneus-online.ie/car-tyres-MICHELIN/ALPIN,A4/205,55,R16,91,T.html . By the way, have you checked what load rating you need? It's the last number on the tyre size, ie 91T/94/98.

    just checked now - currently on 91V at the front (H at the back), but routinely the fronts are moved to the back after 6 months and new ones put on the front...........so what should I get? (thanks for the input btw!):)


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    #93
    CiniO
    Registered Users Posts: 16,067 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    cjmcork wrote: »
    just checked now - currently on 91V at the front (H at the back), but routinely the fronts are moved to the back after 6 months and new ones put on the front...........so what should I get? (thanks for the input btw!):)

    91 is the load index.

    T, H or V are speed indexes.
    With most winter tyres you'll get T index (190km/h) so remember not to exceed that speed.


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    #94
    cjmcork
    Registered Users Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭cjmcork


    CiniO wrote: »
    91 is the load index.

    T, H or V are speed indexes.
    With most winter tyres you'll get T index (190km/h) so remember not to exceed that speed.

    are ya having a laugh - I'd never commit a crime by breaking the speed limit! :D


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    #95
    CiniO
    Registered Users Posts: 16,067 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    cjmcork wrote: »
    are ya having a laugh - I'd never commit a crime by breaking the speed limit! :D

    As all of us here ;)
    :pac:

    PS - even if you do forget, and go over - don't worry. Nothing should happened. I check it, as I forgot once, and kept over 200km/h for over 15 minutes on tyres with T speed index. And I'm still here writing ;)


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    #96
    mcwhirter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭mcwhirter


    cjmcork wrote: »
    what decent brands would folks recommend - I don't mind spending a chunk of money on these as they'll hopefully save me from walloping the car off a wall

    Nokian Entyre are a good all weather tyre


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    #97
    Anan1
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    cjmcork wrote: »
    just checked now - currently on 91V at the front (H at the back), but routinely the fronts are moved to the back after 6 months and new ones put on the front...........so what should I get? (thanks for the input btw!):)
    In that case, i'd be happy to recommend the Michelin Alpin A4. It's the only winter tyre I have direct experience of, and i'm very happy with them. Mine are a slightly larger size and load rating(215/55 R16H, 98 load), and they're H rated for speed, but I think I paid around €150ea for mine - this seems to make the ones I posted for you good value at €120ea. From memory, the TS830 also did very well in the tests. Ditto for the Dunlop WinterSport 3D, which is the same price: http://www.tyres-pneus-online.ie/car-tyres-DUNLOP/SP,WINTER,SPORT,3D/205,55,R16,91,H,MFS.html ANd here's a new one, the Dunlop WInterSport 4D: http://www.tyres-pneus-online.ie/car-tyres-DUNLOP/SP,WINTER,SPORT,4D/205,55,R16,91,H.html Presumably an evolution of the 3D, it's only a fiver a corner more and it's H rated for speed. Just to be sure, i'd check the load rating for your car in the handbook.


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    #98
    CR 7
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    Anyone have any experience or opinions on these: Kumho KW23 or Falken HS-439?

    Or is there any other better 195/60/15 tyres at around that price? List from eiretyres here. Won't be doing many miles on them, so I don't want to be spending too much.


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    #99
    CiniO
    Registered Users Posts: 16,067 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Park Ji Sung wrote: »
    Anyone have any experience or opinions on these: Kumho KW23 or Falken HS-439?

    Or is there any other better 195/60/15 tyres at around that price? List from eiretyres here. Won't be doing many miles on them, so I don't want to be spending too much.

    Within this price range, I would definitely prefer Debica Frigo 2.


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    #100
    CR 7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,704 ✭✭✭CR 7


    CiniO wrote: »
    Within this price range, I would definitely prefer Debica Frigo 2.

    They were actually another tyre I was considering, but I left them out because they weren't as 'well known' as the other two brands.:pac: They seem to get fairly good reviews anyway, so I'll check them out a bit more thoroughly. Thanks for the help.


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    #101
    Hiace.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Hiace.


    My wife’s car does about 10,000 miles per year and needs 4 new tyres soon.
    She rarely goes over 50/60 mph.
    I want her to have good tyres for her winter commute to work, but we don't want to be buying / swapping over etc. etc. during the snow.
    Would 4 fairly good all weather tyres instead of 4 winters be fairly ok for this winter and driving on the rest of the year ?
    Any recommendations ?


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    #102
    _Conrad_
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    Hiace. wrote: »
    My wife’s car does about 10,000 miles per year and needs 4 new tyres soon.
    She rarely goes over 50/60 mph.
    I want her to have good tyres for her winter commute to work, but we don't want to be buying / swapping over etc. etc. during the snow.
    Would 4 fairly good all weather tyres instead of 4 winters be fairly ok for this winter and driving on the rest of the year ?
    Any recommendations ?


    New ordinary tyres would be better than bald ones of course. But as good as actual winter tyres? certainly not
    Winter tyres are not good for driving all year round though so to do it properly you'll have to get winter tyres then swap back over


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    #103
    Hiace.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Hiace.


    _Conrad_ wrote: »
    New ordinary tyres would be better than bald ones of course. But as good as actual winter tyres? certainly not
    Winter tyres are not good for driving all year round though so to do it properly you'll have to get winter tyres then swap back over

    Read my post again. Slowly.
    Of course they would not be as good as winter tyres, I'm asking about all season tyres, I'm looking at the all season tyre compromise alternative to the summer / winter tyres changeover and back.


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    #104
    opinion guy
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    Hiace. wrote: »
    Read my post again.
    Of course they would not be as good as winter tyres, I'm asking about all season tyres, I'm looking at the all season tyre compromise alternative to the summer / winter tyres changeover and back.


    Better off just to buy winter tyres and use em all year. The all seasons won't give you great winter performance. The right winter tyres will not be too bad in the summer - lets face it the Irish summer qualifies as winter in many places - tyres like dunlop wintersport 3d are supposed to be good in the wet as well as the snow (I should day I've not tried them myself)


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    #105
    fletch
    Registered Users Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭fletch


    I had All Season's during the last few winters and they were no better than Summers


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    #106
    gooner99
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    Hiace. wrote: »
    My wife’s car does about 10,000 miles per year and needs 4 new tyres soon.
    She rarely goes over 50/60 mph.
    I want her to have good tyres for her winter commute to work, but we don't want to be buying / swapping over etc. etc. during the snow.
    Would 4 fairly good all weather tyres instead of 4 winters be fairly ok for this winter and driving on the rest of the year ?
    Any recommendations ?


    I did quite a lot of research in this area as like you I only do 15k miles per year and don't drive hard.In the end I opted for a second set of steels and winter tyres, as I got a good deal and also have the space to store the extra set.However if I hadn't the space a didn't want the hassle of the change overs I would shortlist these all season tyres and run them all year. The key thing about this lot are that they are all snowflake and mountain rated, so qualify as suitable for winter. Sure they will never be up there with pure winters, but seem to be well regarded as a good alternative for all year driving, with an leaning to winter conditions. Could be a very good choice for Ireand, considering we don't get high temperatures in summer. anyway here they are...

    Nokian WR G2 (marketed as a winter tyre in the EU,but as and all season in the US/Canada)
    Vredestein Qautrac 3 (pretty good reviews)
    Bridgestone A001 (fairly new tyre on the market)
    Hankook Optimo 4S (top test results)
    Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons (top test results)
    Kleber Quadraxer (fairly new tyre on the market)

    Of course there are other all weathers on the market,but these are the only ones I've found that are mountain and snowflake marked.I'd say you will have to source them online, as I had no real luck locally when pricing them.Eiretyres seemed to have most of them.Hope this helps you out.


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    #107
    _Conrad_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭_Conrad_


    Hiace. wrote: »
    Read my post again. Slowly.
    Of course they would not be as good as winter tyres, I'm asking about all season tyres, I'm looking at the all season tyre compromise alternative to the summer / winter tyres changeover and back.



    The answer is still there. There is no such thing as a truly proficient jack of all trades tyre. The proper thing to do is buy winter tyres and change back to ordinary tyres when the weather improves. You should be able to keep the winter tyres until next year also.


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    #108
    (F.L.) Anders
    Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭(F.L.) Anders


    (F.L.) Anders wrote: »
    I'm in a similar situation but I have to stick with R17's to clear my brake calipers. (I also have a second set of 17" wheels in the shed luckily)

    Would it be ok to change dimensions to say 205/50/R17 though, instead of 225/45/R17?

    Bump.


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    #109
    Hiace.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Hiace.


    gooner99 wrote: »
    I did quite a lot of research in this area as like you I only do 15k miles per year and don't drive hard.In the end I opted for a second set of steels and winter tyres, as I got a good deal and also have the space to store the extra set.However if I hadn't the space a didn't want the hassle of the change overs I would shortlist these all season tyres and run them all year. The key thing about this lot are that they are all snowflake and mountain rated, so qualify as suitable for winter. Sure they will never be up there with pure winters, but seem to be well regarded as a good alternative for all year driving, with an leaning to winter conditions. Could be a very good choice for Ireand, considering we don't get high temperatures in summer. anyway here they are...

    Nokian WR G2 (marketed as a winter tyre in the EU,but as and all season in the US/Canada)
    Vredestein Qautrac 3 (pretty good reviews)
    Bridgestone A001 (fairly new tyre on the market)
    Hankook Optimo 4S (top test results)
    Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons (top test results)
    Kleber Quadraxer (fairly new tyre on the market)

    Of course there are other all weathers on the market,but these are the only ones I've found that are mountain and snowflake marked.I'd say you will have to source them online, as I had no real luck locally when pricing them.Eiretyres seemed to have most of them.Hope this helps you out.

    Great, thats exactly the kind of info I was looking for, thanks for that mate.


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    #110
    Hiace.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Hiace.


    _Conrad_ wrote: »
    The answer is still there. There is no such thing as a truly proficient jack of all trades tyre. The proper thing to do is buy winter tyres and change back to ordinary tyres when the weather improves. You should be able to keep the winter tyres until next year also.

    Exactly, every set up is always a compromise in some area, and that set up compromises time and money.
    The benefit is also lost if you go to change the car, unless you buy a car that uses the same tyres / rims set up.
    I already run that set up on my main driver, but this is a low mileage second car and not worth that, in my opinion.


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    #111
    turbodiesel
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    Hiace. wrote: »
    Exactly, every set up is always a compromise in some area, and that set up compromises time and money.
    The benefit is also lost if you go to change the car, unless you buy a car that uses the same tyres / rims set up.
    I already run that set up on my main driver, but this is a low mileage second car and not worth that, in my opinion.

    I found www.camskill.co.uk seem to price very favourably incl post to here, I just have to keep an eye on there stock as I'm strongly considering quatrac 3's for my primera T-spec on a set of 16 steelies.....


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    #112
    fletch
    Registered Users Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭fletch


    turbodiesel wrote: »
    I found www.camskill.co.uk seem to price very favourably incl post to here, I just have to keep an eye on there stock as I'm strongly considering quatrac 3's for my primera T-spec on a set of 16 steelies.....
    The quatracs aren't brilliant in the snow...check out the Autoexpress Winter Tyre Test.


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    #113
    cjmcork
    Registered Users Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭cjmcork


    ah lads, this is tough, I've it down to the Continental Winter Contacts (€513 for 4), the Dunlop Sp Sport 3d or 4d (€450)OR the Michelin Alpina A4s (€480)...................going to order by the end of the week :confused:

    anyone that has had any bad experience with these, speak now or forever hold it (your peace, that is)!!!


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    #114
    TestTransmission
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    How much can we expect these to go up by over the next month?I drive a RWD car and start work at 5am most days so I'm gonna be needing a set over the winter


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    #115
    Thinkingaboutit
    Registered Users Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭Thinkingaboutit


    FWD drive cars in the city don't need winter tyres. Easy with them. My main car is rwd too, so I'm reading through this for an idea or two, but at city speeds rwd on ordinary tyres ain't too bad.


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    GTE
    Registered Users Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭GTE


    Hiace. wrote: »
    My wife’s car does about 10,000 miles per year and needs 4 new tyres soon.
    She rarely goes over 50/60 mph.
    I want her to have good tyres for her winter commute to work, but we don't want to be buying / swapping over etc. etc. during the snow.
    Would 4 fairly good all weather tyres instead of 4 winters be fairly ok for this winter and driving on the rest of the year ?
    Any recommendations ?

    You can get good All Season tyres but they are rare on our market. In fact I do not think you can buy them unless you go online.
    Check out the Goodyear Vector 4 and the Hankook Optimo 4s. These are the two that I know of and I have a years experience with the latter on my car now.

    They will not be as good as full Winter tyres in the snow and ice. With that said they do work in the right temp range which is what the main thrust of the argument is about for Winter spec tyres. Again they may not stick as much as the winters to cold dry roads but I have never reached the limit of them in those conditions. Driving with sense and care I never slipped or got stuck in the snow and compacted icy snow with them on so I do think that there are at least two models of All Seasons out there that can give certain drivers under certain circumstances a safe tyre that does not need to be switched when it gets warmer. I did push the car a bit to see where the line was and to be fair, it took a while to cross it when you consider how careful you generally have to be in those conditions. No winter spec tyre gives you the comfort to drive like you normally would in the snow so with the care needed I feel the AS tyres I have to be a very good.

    I generally didnt have the need to go off main roads with only local regional roads being used.

    To answer your question concisely, in my opinion and experience there are very good all seasons options out there if you have a certain use in mind. They are rare, in small numbers on our market and in any market from what I research but they are there.

    This year round my snow capabilities will be lessened with less tread but the important thing for me, the temperature range is still there.

    Tread wear wise, they wear less then my old Cooper Xeon XTC's.


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    #117
    R.O.R
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    cjmcork wrote: »
    ah lads, this is tough, I've it down to the Continental Winter Contacts (€513 for 4), the Dunlop Sp Sport 3d or 4d (€450)OR the Michelin Alpina A4s (€480)...................going to order by the end of the week :confused:

    anyone that has had any bad experience with these, speak now or forever hold it (your peace, that is)!!!

    Had a driver on Conti Winter Contacts last year (currently sitting in the garage waiting to go back on this coming winter) and he had nothing but good things to say about them.

    He was getting places his brother in law's Range Rover couldn't get - but they were on an A4 quattro.


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    #118
    Anan1
    Registered Users Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Thinkingaboutit wrote: »
    FWD drive cars in the city don't need winter tyres. Easy with them. My main car is rwd too, so I'm reading through this for an idea or two, but at city speeds rwd on ordinary tyres ain't too bad.
    You honestly think you can drive safely at 50km/h on snow/ice/slush on summer tyres?


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    #119
    BostonB
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    Anan1 wrote: »
    You honestly think you can drive safely at 50km/h on snow/ice/slush on summer tyres?

    What did you do before you bought winter tyres?


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    #120
    opinion guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    BostonB wrote: »
    What did you do before you bought winter tyres?

    Crashed....:rolleyes:


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    #121
    Anan1
    Registered Users Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    BostonB wrote: »
    What did you do before you bought winter tyres?
    In snow & ice? Either stayed at home or went out and p1ssed people with the correct tyres off by crawling along in front of them.;)


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