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  • #92
    Caitlinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Caitlinn


    Larianne wrote: »
    No.

    So you are just interested in fat kids? :confused:


  • #93
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    ILikeBananas wrote: »
    There's a scenic pathway near my house that I run on several times a week. I see a lot of Irish adults out on it but it's very rare that I see them with their children (unless they are in a pram). On the other hand I see loads of Eastern European families (with children of all ages) out together either cycling or roller-blading.

    roller-blading?

    LGBT forum
    >


  • #94
    Larianne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    So you are just interested in fat kids? :confused:

    See post #87.


  • #95
    Caitlinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Caitlinn


    So you are interested in obesity, unless it's a professional interest it's still unhealthy, in my opinion.


  • #96
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    Whatever, get on with your own life and stop worrying about others and therefore judging them!

    I'm wondering, since this is After Hours (and we can therefore say outlandish things) did the OP expect support for his ridicule of children?

    oh come on, whatever about not worrying about them, we should have an interest in where our taxes are being spent. if the percentage of the health budget spent on treating obesity linked diseases and problems is getting higher and higher, then we have a right to worry!

    i would prefer to say.... have a dedicated private jet on standby for people that may need to go to the UK for life saving transplant operations than fork out for diabetes medication for a load of kids that didn't control their weight or have it controlled for them by their parents.


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  • #97
    Caitlinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Caitlinn


    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    oh come on, whatever about not worrying about them, we should have an interest in where out taxes are being spent. if the percentage of the health budget spent on treating obesity linked diseases and problems is getting higher and higher, then we have a right to worry!

    i would prefer to say.... have a dedicated private jet on standby for people that may need to go to the UK for life saving transplant operations than fork out for diabetes medication for a load of kids that didn't control their weight or have it controlled for them by their parents.

    The bit of your post that stuck in my mind, having read all of it, was 'we should have an interest in where our taxes are being spent'.


  • #98
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    Sorry all I heard was 'an interest in where our taxes are being spent'

    twinkies mixing your eyes with your ears?? :confused:


  • #99
    Caitlinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Caitlinn


    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    twinkies mixing your eyes with your ears?? :confused:

    Ummm, no, I think your main point was pretty clear. It's not the fat kids, it's where your money is going, YOUR money.


  • #100
    Larianne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    So you are interested in obesity, unless it's a professional interest it's still unhealthy, in my opinion.

    Is that your professional opinion?

    In my opinion, most people should have an interest in their own health and well being. This includes things like stopping obesity occuring.
    Caitlinn wrote: »
    Ummm, no, I think your main point was pretty clear. It's not the fat kids, it's where your money is going, YOUR money.

    You're not even making sense now. :confused:


  • #101
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    Ummm, no, I think your main point was pretty clear. It's not the fat kids, it's where your money is going, YOUR money.

    i take it you're not a taxpayer then? it is the fat kids, lumped in with all the other easily preventable problems. anyway, you're trolling. toodles.


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  • #102
    Caitlinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Caitlinn


    I guess you believe all your opposition are trolls (I'm not trolling as it happens but) I disagree with you that fat kids are a huge taxpayers problem. And for that matter, what does it matter whether I am a taxpayer - do you assume would I share you disgust if I was one? :rolleyes:


  • #103
    Tayla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    OP, I get your point that childhood obesity is a terrible thing but so long as you aren't a child who is overweight or have children who are overweight why let it bother you? Just go about your business, no harm, no foul. Life is too short.

    Not the OP but....

    It bothers me because I think the parents are setting their children up for life with bad diets and exercise habits...bad diets combined with laziness can only equal bad news for the future.

    It bothers me because it is not fair on the children. Why should their parents be allowed to fill them with crap which doesn't allow their body to act in the way it should.

    It's a form of abuse if you ask me, if people were starving their children would you wonder why it bothered people?


  • #104
    Caitlinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Caitlinn


    Tayla wrote: »
    Not the OP but....

    It bothers me because I think the parents are setting their children up for life with bad diets and exercise habits...bad diets combined with laziness can only equal bad news for the future.

    It bothers me because it is not fair on the children. Why should their parents be allowed to fill them with crap which doesn't allow their body to act in the way it should.

    It's a form of abuse if you ask me, if people were starving their children would you wonder why it bothered people?

    Complain to Children's services then but I stand by my original point, if you aren't an obese child in question or the parent of an obese child why let it bother you surely you have enough to be getting on with?


  • #105
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    I guess you believe all your opposition are trolls (I'm not trolling as it happens but) I disagree with you that fat kids are a huge taxpayers problem. And for that matter, what does it matter whether I am a taxpayer - do you assume would I share you disgust if I was one? :rolleyes:

    they may not be a huge burden on the taxpayer now, but they will be in the future. just wondered why you had to emphasise "YOUR taxes" is all.

    here, knock yourself out...

    http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=9499
    With obesity figures soaring worldwide, including in Ireland, the cost of this disease to the nation's health, its health service and indeed the economy as a whole, is incalculable. And yet it is preventable.


  • #106
    Caitlinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Caitlinn


    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    they may not be a huge burden on the taxpayer now, but they will be in the future. just wondered why you had to emphasise "YOUR taxes" is all.

    here, knock yourself out...

    http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=9499

    I found this quite funny since you were the one who mentioned taxes first. I didn't check that link, it's besides the point. Taxes are the real point to you I feel.


  • #107
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    I found this quite funny since you were the one who mentioned taxes first. I didn't check that link, it's besides the point. Taxes are the real point to you I feel.

    i think if you chose to click on it, that it really does prove the point. so your whole argument is that if we're not obese, or have obese kids, then we should leave well alone. :rolleyes:


  • #108
    Caitlinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Caitlinn


    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    i think if you chose to click on it, that it really does prove the point. so your whole argument is that if we're not obese, or have obese kids, then we should leave well alone. :rolleyes:

    No, I know that some of us are obese and we have some obese children and I wish we could change that but my point is that some of us only care when it hits our pockets and to be honest I wish we could change that.
    Some of us are obese and some of us only care about our taxes I wish we could change both of these things.


  • #109
    Tayla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    Complain to Children's services then but I stand by my original point, if you aren't an obese child in question or the parent of an obese child why let it bother you surely you have enough to be getting on with?


    Look it bothers me... I can't help it, I like to see children get the best start in life and parents are too bloody lazy to do that. It's like if children started smoking, in fact I think lack of exercise coupled with childhood obesity would have a much worse impact on a childs health than smoking.

    Surely I have enough to be getting on with? No not really, right now i'm just participating in a thread about this topic which is a pet hate of mine.
    If everyone had your attitude then nothing will ever change, do you not think it would be better for these children to have healthier lifestyles?


  • #110
    Caitlinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Caitlinn


    Tayla wrote: »
    Look it bothers me... I can't help it, I like to see children get the best start in life and parents are too bloody lazy to do that. It's like if children started smoking, in fact I think lack of exercise coupled with childhood obesity would have a much worse impact on a childs health than smoking.

    Surely I have enough to be getting on with? No not really, right now i'm just participating in a thread about this topic which is a pet hate of mine.
    If everyone had your attitude then nothing will ever change, do you not think it would be better for these children to have healthier lifestyles?

    I do think that parents could do a better job sometimes but because it's a pet hate of yours can you become their parent? I don't think so. So just get on with what you have got.

    Seriously why get wound up about things you can't change like other peoples children?

    And before you start I participate in the areas of society I can affect (like politics) but if you have a child that child is your responsibility and I doubt the wider community is going to have a say unless you do something really out of order. Therefore you can't affect the life of someone else's child.


  • #111
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    No, I know that some of us are obese and we have some obese children and I wish we could change that but my point is that some of us only care when it hits our pockets and to be honest I wish we could change that.
    Some of us are obese and some of us only care about our taxes I wish we could change both of these things.

    now we're getting somewhere. i refer back to where you were wondering why larianne would have an interest in childhood obesity. we just have to face it, those of us that are not obese or do not have obese kids, the one definite common ground we have is that we all have to club together to pay for their healthcare. there are lots of other things that we have to pay for too, some of which are a hell of a lot more necessary than something which is preventable, like as i said earlier, a dedicated plane to transport patients in need of transplants to the UK when needed.


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  • #112
    Caitlinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Caitlinn


    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    now we're getting somewhere. i refer back to where you were wondering why larianne would have an interest in childhood obesity. we just have to face it, those of us that are not obese or do not have obese kids, the one definite common ground we have is that we all have to club together to pay for their healthcare. there are lots of other things that we have to pay for too, some of which are a hell of a lot more necessary than something which is preventable, like as i said earlier, a dedicated plane to transport patients in need of transplants to the UK when needed.

    Ugh, I don't know where to start with this. Just for the record I am not obese and I do not have children. I don't really care if you want to get on your hobby horse about this. I'm just voicing my opinion.


  • #113
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    I do think that parents could do a better job sometimes but because it's a pet hate of yours can you become their parent? I don't think so. So just get on with what you have got.

    Seriously why get wound up about things you can't change like other peoples children?

    And before you start I participate in the areas of society I can affect (like politics) but if you have a child that child is your responsibility and I doubt the wider community is going to have a say unless you do something really out of order. Therefore you can't affect the life of someone else's child.

    how about we lobby out local TDs and keep at them til the HSE or whatever future equivalent withdraws funding for diabetic meds for kids? that'll go down well when people realise how much they're actually getting for free.

    that bit in bold above makes zero sense. you're implying that someone who is aware of a problematic situation won't be able to do anything to prevent it? at all??:confused:


  • #114
    Tayla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    I do think that parents could do a better job sometimes but because it's a pet hate of yours can you become their parent? I don't think. So just get on with what you have got. Seriously why get wound up about things you can't change? And before you start I participate in the areas of society I can affect like politics but if you have a child that child is your responsibility and I doubt the wider community is going to have a say unless you do something really out of order. Therefore you can't affect the life of someone else's child and you should just know the way you'd raise children of your own if you have them. Otherwise you are stepping over boundaries.

    If someones child was malnourished then the state would intervene, if a child can't breathe because they're so overweight then why shouldn't it be the same?

    Why is there talk of banning smoking in cars which have children in them?
    The same parents could feed the children 4 bags of sugar and a million chemicals each day in their food and noone would care.


  • #115
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    Ugh, I don't know where to start with this. Just for the record I am not obese and I do not have children. I don't really care if you want to get on your hobby horse about this. I'm just voicing my opinion.

    ok, how about you take the hobby horse and i'll stick with my high horse. :cool:


  • #116
    Caitlinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Caitlinn


    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    how about we lobby out local TDs and keep at them til the HSE or whatever future equivalent withdraws funding for diabetic meds for kids? that'll go down well when people realise how much they're actually getting for free.

    that bit in bold above makes zero sense. you're implying that someone who is aware of a problematic situation won't be able to do anything to prevent it? at all??:confused:

    You really think your local TD or the HSE is going to take a blind bit of notice of you. Wow, you really think highly of yourself!

    I think that unless you are the parent of an obese child and,if you are, you take it in your own hands to change your child's future it ain't going to happen.


  • #117
    Kirby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    D1stant wrote: »
    +1

    Was coming home from France a few weeks ago and every fat kid getting on the plane was Irish, and every 'normal' kid was French. Not only that but I find Irish kids very badly behaved in comparison with continental kids. Maybe thats off topic, or maybe related to diet also in some way?

    Are you for real? Continental children are angels all of a sudden? Spend longer than ten minutes with a bunch of spanish kids. I'm pretty sure you will change your opinion and start to envy the hell out of deaf people. :p

    In all seriousness though, some kids are well behaved and some are complete brats. It's universal and not unique to any one country. There are just as many bad parents in France as there are over here.


  • #118
    Pdfile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    i was fat as a kid, skinny now, and the Polar opposite has happened to " friends " from school so its always nice to tease them about their weight.


    Karma works lads, and she works well. :)


  • #119
    Forest Master
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Forest Master


    Caitlinn wrote: »
    OP, I get your point that childhood obesity is a terrible thing but so long as you aren't a child who is overweight or have children who are overweight why let it bother you? Just go about your business, no harm, no foul. Life is too short.

    LOL - what a dumb statement. Firstly, I don't actually care about the taxes end of it, as other posters have mentioned - yes, it's a reality, but I care because I feel these kids will lead restricted lives & struggle with weight & diabetes. They've been set on the wrong path from a young age. But hey, why care about anything that doesn't affect us directly, eh? :confused:

    So as long as it's not directly your problem, why give a sh*t? You have a very selfish way of looking at things.

    Let me apply your twisted logic to other scenarios:
    * As long as you aren't a child who is affected by famine or have children who are affected by famine, why let it bother you?
    * As long as you or your kids aren't affected by a tsunami, why let it bother you?
    * That distressed girl who has just been raped & is asking you for help isn't your kid, so why let it bother you? Just totally keep walking, loike - it's way too much hassle!

    Absolutely retarded logic you have there. We can discuss what we want - we can have opinions on whatever we want. And if you don't like us discussing fat kids - it doesn't affect you - 'so why let it bother you'? :rolleyes:


  • #120
    denhaagenite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭denhaagenite


    Kirby wrote: »
    Are you for real? Continental children are angels all of a sudden? Spend longer than ten minutes with a bunch of spanish kids. I'm pretty sure you will change your opinion and start to envy the hell out of deaf people. :p

    In all seriousness though, some kids are well behaved and some are complete brats. It's universal and not unique to any one country. There are just as many bad parents in France as there are over here.

    I do think he has a point though. I was grocery shopping the other day and went for a coffee, got a bit of a shock when I saw a seriously overweight kid in the cafe. Just not something I'm used to seeing here.

    Our neighbours kids are outside playing all day every day. If we have a barbecue and the neighbours are over, the kids amuse themselves completely. If they have a disagreement, they sort it out themselves. Our neighbours are both divorced fathers and the girls are nothing short of a credit to them.

    We have friends at home and their daughter is a little porker, constantly looking for attention. She gets driven to school every single morning, even though it takes half the time to walk there. They rarely all sit down together and have a meal, in fact it's more usual for them to sit on the floor in the living room eating dinner which usually consists of some processed crap in front of the omnipresent TV. She's essentially a good kid, but with the amount of spoiling that's going on they really are ruining her


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  • #121
    Teyla Emmagan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    It's not inactivity, it's diet. Kids are the same as we are, weight loss is 80% food intake and 20% exercise (or less even). IThe processed food and lack of home cooking are definitely the biggest part of the problem.

    Poor kids, I feel really sorry for them. If you're obese at 10 you really haven't a hope. It's really sad.


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