Question: Irish BJJ Open

TEAM RYANO

guys lets keep this chat about bjj in ireland ,if guys have a problem with each other keep it to your self the bjj community is small here lets try and work toghter not against each other.
i think 2012 will be a good year for bjj in ireland.
the ibjja only ever ran 1 comp that was last year the other 5 were run by me and john,the dublin open was run by my self and club .
so the ibjja is only new our first offical comp was last year .
i got 20 people who said they would help oiut at the comp 6 showed up 1 from cork 1 from belfast and 4 from dublin.
onwards and upwards for bjj in ireland
peace out ...
andy ryan

Sid_Justice

Obviously as someone very wet around the ears my opinion counts for **** all but the problem with running these organisations is that there seems to be some assumption that the guy that's the best at the sport should be administrating the sport.

I just consider this a little illogical, it would be a bit like Anderson Silva saying he wants Dana White's job or Marcelo Garcia saying he wants who ever runs IBJJF's job.

For these things to work you need athletes to spend their time being athletes (not coaches, administrators, fund raisers etc.) you need coaches being coaches (not administrators, not fund raisers) and you need the admin staff doing the rest. Obviously this all requires a bit of honesty, integrity and accountability amongst everyone. Ignoring some little falling outs between groups I don't think we have any problem, at all levels, for these 3 qualities.

It reminds me of the MMA situation when nobody could sit down and organise a meeting because the coaches of the biggest teams didn't seem to agree on rule changes because they weren't the one who thought of it first. I don't mean this as a slight on their coaching skills / merits etc. but you need people with experience running organisations who aren't too egotistical to head up these things (just as a casual example Mark Leonard or Barry Oglesby) rather than Ireland's versions of Greg Jackson or Fedor.

Barry.Oglesby

Pick Mark I'm too egotistical.

mark.leonard

While I appreciate the compliment, a lack of ego is not something I suffer from too seriously!
In any Association/Organisation you need to have a mix of skills, ideally you want a couple of high ranking experienced folks included, they can represent the "Business" of BJJ and steer the committee toward decisions that enable the betterment of BJJ in Ireland. They have the context that a pure administrator would not.
You also need folks with logistical and organisational skills who will handle the execution and day to day maintenance, when those two skill sets coincide its awesome, but its easier to make the team up by combining them from different people.

Tim_Murphy

You know a thread is gone a bit nuts when Sid is the one talking sense. :pac:

r_obric

I dont get why people feel it needs a "body" like the ibjja to run a competition, cant clubs put them on with help from the community and other clubs, it works fine for the munster open, and a business man from the UK has made it work without being offically tied to any club here