Early morning or lunch time classes in dublin city centre

blindasfcuk

Im looking to get back into some kind of training. I used to do ninjutsu for about a year before the little one put a stop to all my free time but recently Ive been getting my fitness back with early morning bootcamps and some 5-a-side at lunch during work so Id like to try and use that time to start up some sort of martial art again. What I want is something where I can get sparing as quick as possible and preferably something that’s not based on grappling and ground work. I want something that’s run between 12-2 weekdays, before work so 7am-9am or just after I finish so no later than 6pm somewhere in the city centre.

Ive looked at sbg but Im not really interested in bjj and Ive looked at the self defence Ireland where I was definitely interested in Krav Maga but the times don’t suit.

Anybody know of anything good that’s run in those hours?

blindasfcuk

I probably should have put a question mark in the title!

da-bres

BJJ on Wednesday 7:30 until 8:45, at SBG City Center (exchequer st.)

www.sbgireland.com

KathleenMcCabe

Wild geese martial arts do early morning boot camps

http://www.wildgeesema.com/

themandan6611

blindasfcuk wrote: »

Ive looked at sbg but Im not really interested in bjj

da-bres wrote: »

BJJ on Wednesday 7:30 until 8:45, at SBG City Center (exchequer st.)

www.sbgireland.com

Doug Cartel

Da-bres, what happens at the kickboxing pad sessions?

da-bres

TBH i've never been at that particular class, Just pad work with sparring at the end from what i've heard

blindasfcuk

KathleenMcCabe wrote: »

Wild geese martial arts do early morning boot camps

http://www.wildgeesema.com/

Ya i was checking out the wildgeese one alright they also have kenpo on tuesdays and thursdays which Id probably get into. There doesnt seem to be much else on during the day though unless I want BJJ or mma

dave80

The SBG lunch time striking classes would suit you perfect m8

OLDMAN1

dave80 wrote: »

The SBG lunch time striking classes would suit you perfect m8

The op seems to want to do some sort of striking art, would he not be better going to a club that specilises in striking, there are plenty of Muay Thai, kickboxing and Karate clubs around..

Doug Cartel

OLDMAN1 wrote: »

The op seems to want to do some sort of striking art, would he not be better going to a club that specilises in striking, there are plenty of Muay Thai, kickboxing and Karate clubs around..

Ones that fit his time constraints?

The only one I can think of is the TCD Shotokan club, and I'm not sure they take non-student members.

Hanley

OLDMAN1 wrote: »

The op seems to want to do some sort of striking art, would he not be better going to a club that specilises in striking, there are plenty of Muay Thai, kickboxing and Karate clubs around..

What would an MMA club know about striking sure.

OLDMAN1

Doug Cartel wrote: »

Ones that fit his time constraints?

The only one I can think of is the TCD Shotokan club, and I'm not sure they take non-student members.

Here is a list of the AKAI kickboxing clubs in Dublin, i dont know if there times would suit the op, but a few phone calls and he'll find out
http://www.kickboxingireland.ie/dublin.html

da-bres

OLDMAN1 wrote: »

The op seems to want to do some sort of striking art, would he not be better going to a club that specilises in striking, there are plenty of Muay Thai, kickboxing and Karate clubs around..

Odd Comment,

So SBG does not specialize in Striking?? How many Striking classes do they host in comparison to a specialized striking club?? Are their coaches not as qualified to teach striking?

I know from my own boxing/kickboxing background that I was not receiving good tuition until I made the move to SBG.

dave80

OLDMAN1 wrote: »

The op seems to want to do some sort of striking art, would he not be better going to a club that specilises in striking, there are plenty of Muay Thai, kickboxing and Karate clubs around..

Odd comment as da-bres said, its a has striking classes Mon Wed Fri during the times specified by the op??

blindasfcuk

Ya im just ringing around a few places now but the only place I'll get any striking during lunch looks like its sbg so ill head up and check it out. It looks like its only Kickboxing pads though so ill see

dave80

blindasfcuk wrote: »

Ya im just ringing around a few places now but the only place I'll get any striking during lunch looks like its sbg so ill head up and check it out. It looks like its only Kickboxing pads though so ill see

sparing is done in the classes too

OLDMAN1

da-bres wrote: »

Odd Comment,

So SBG does not specialize in Striking?? How many Striking classes do they host in comparison to a specialized striking club?? Are their coaches not as qualified to teach striking?

I know from my own boxing/kickboxing background that I was not receiving good tuition until I made the move to SBG.

No they dont, there a Bjj/mma club, as far as i know, but im open to correction.there used to be Muay thai classes out on the longmile rd, is it still on in SBG city center? i also dont know if there qualified to teach striking as i dont know who they are (striking coaches)

Hanley, im not saying that mma clubs dont know a bit about striking, but if i wanted to learn striking, i would go to a Muay Thai,boxing or a kickboxing club, How many pure striking competitions do most mma clubs enter? (rush enters some boxing competitions)

If some one asked me were they could learn Bjj, i would send them to a Bjj club, not a striking club, but thats just me...

da-bres

OLDMAN1 wrote: »

No they dont, there a Bjj/mma club, as far as i know, but im open to correction.

You stand corrected

Dyr

I could get a top notch steak in a sea food restaurant but that doesn't change the fact that they specialize in seafood.

Sid_Justice

wouldn't a better analogy be you want to go for steak so do you go to the steak restaurant in town which is 20 miles away or do you go to the epicurean / food mall in the local shopping centre which has restaurants that specialise in steak and also have restaurants that do pizza.

most mma clubs have striking coaches who teach exclusively their own style (thai / boxing ) and aren't just 'striking for mma'. I'm not sure what sbg city centre is though.

Barry.Oglesby

I'm fairly sure Myles Price coaches there (SBG in Exchequer Street), and he was a kickboxer of good reputation prior to (or maybe during) his MMA career.

OLDMAN I know what you're trying to say but I think the guys are just enthusiastic about their club and want people to train there. I don't think there's anything wrong with that necessarily, maybe a little irritating to have to read it all the time but you'd expect someone who trains in any club to be enthusiastic about it. The easiest thing to do would be just to not read!

Black Sheep

Hanley, im not saying that mma clubs dont know a bit about striking, but if i wanted to learn striking, i would go to a Muay Thai,boxing or a kickboxing club, How many pure striking competitions do most mma clubs enter?
...
I could get a top notch steak in a sea food restaurant but that doesn't change the fact that they specialize in seafood.

I'm not sure sure the steak/seafood analogy works, because if 'striking' includes ground and pound you could make the argument that an MMA club offers aspects that a muay thai or kickboxing club doesn't- striking on the ground as well as standing/clinch, and the transitions and MMA-specific bits that you'll not get elsewhere.

So doesn't it really depend on what kind of striking the OP is looking for?

When I was at SBG even aside from the coaches there were lots of members who were amateur boxers or had a few amateur muay thai fights under their belt, FWIW. I would say that considering their competition record in MMA it's naive to say they do not address striking fairly well.

OLDMAN1

da-bres wrote: »

You stand corrected

would you like to expand your anwser a bit? considering you recommonded them would you like to list there Qualifications?

OLDMAN1

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

I'm fairly sure Myles Price coaches there (SBG in Exchequer Street), and he was a kickboxer of good reputation prior to (or maybe during) his MMA career.

OLDMAN I know what you're trying to say but I think the guys are just enthusiastic about their club and want people to train there. I don't think there's anything wrong with that necessarily, maybe a little irritating to have to read it all the time but you'd expect someone who trains in any club to be enthusiastic about it. The easiest thing to do would be just to not read!

Barry i take your point, but lets just forget SBG for a minute, in YOUR opinion what do you deem the qualifications to be teaching striking are, weather it be Muay Thai,boxing or kickboxing and remember this is charging people money.(we'll forget about safty and insurance for the moment )If a guy has 2 or 3 fights in any of the above does that mean he's qualified to teach it? and what about the reverse, if a guy has 2 or 3 fights in BJJ, is he them qualified to teach it?

dave80

OLDMAN1 wrote: »

Barry i take your point, but lets just forget SBG for a minute, in YOUR opinion what do you deem the qualifications to be teaching striking are, weather it be Muay Thai,boxing or kickboxing and remember this is charging people money.(we'll forget about safty and insurance for the moment )If a guy has 2 or 3 fights in any of the above does that mean he's qualified to teach it? and what about the reverse, if a guy has 2 or 3 fights in BJJ, is he them qualified to teach it?

Heading a bit off topic there m8

Barry.Oglesby

OLDMAN1 wrote: »

Barry i take your point, but lets just forget SBG for a minute, in YOUR opinion what do you deem the qualifications to be teaching striking are, weather it be Muay Thai,boxing or kickboxing and remember this is charging people money.(we'll forget about safty and insurance for the moment )If a guy has 2 or 3 fights in any of the above does that mean he's qualified to teach it? and what about the reverse, if a guy has 2 or 3 fights in BJJ, is he them qualified to teach it?

Ideally, he'd be very experienced, but I'm of the opinion that proper coaching doesn't require having a load of fights under your belt. Great coaches are made through learning how to coach.

As for the qualifications? Look this is the martial arts and off the top of my head I can think of a half dozen guys who wouldn't be able to box eggs who are stand up coaches of one creed or another. But I don't bother myself with it because there's nothing I can do about it. They'll still exist and I'll be stressed at the end of it.

Very high standard of stand-up at SBG mind you. My comments are not about them.

OLDMAN1

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Ideally, he'd be very experienced, but I'm of the opinion that proper coaching doesn't require having a load of fights under your belt. Great coaches are made through learning how to coach.

As for the qualifications? Look this is the martial arts and off the top of my head I can think of a half dozen guys who wouldn't be able to box eggs who are stand up coaches of one creed or another. But I don't bother myself with it because there's nothing I can do about it. They'll still exist and I'll be stressed at the end of it.

Very high standard of stand-up at SBG mind you. My comments are not about them.

Dave80: i dont believe that it's off topic at all, the OP asked about a striking club and people are sending him to a BJJ/MMA club,this seems to be a reoccurring theme on here, someone comes on asking about Karate,Kung Fu, Muay Thai,Judo,KM or face painting and they get the same reply, JOIN A BJJ CLUB,If some people are going to recommend a club the least they should do is state there qualifications and i dont mean, i did 6 month boxing,kickboxing or Muay Thai training when i was 16 and had one or two fights so now im qualified to coach it.

Barry i wouldn't nescessarily disagree with anything you said, it's a very diplomatic answer.But your still not answering the question? as a experienced martial artist and mma coach, i seem to remember reading recently that you bring in a Muay Thai coach once a week!

If there was a striking club teaching BJJ and they were not qualified to teach it, people on here would be kicking up murder and calling them a UFC FIGHTING clubs but the reverse seems to be ok as far as the Bjj people are concerned.(unqualified people teaching striking)

dave80

OLDMAN1 wrote: »

Dave80: i dont believe that it's off topic at all, the OP asked about a striking club and people are sending him to a BJJ/MMA club,this seems to be a reoccurring theme on here, someone comes on asking about Karate,Kung Fu, Muay Thai,Judo,KM or face painting and they get the same reply, JOIN A BJJ CLUB,If some people are going to recommend a club the least they should do is state there qualifications and i dont mean, i did 6 month boxing,kickboxing or Muay Thai training when i was 16 and had one or two fights so now im qualified to coach it.

Barry i wouldn't nescessarily disagree with anything you said, it's a very diplomatic answer.But your still not answering the question? as a experienced martial artist and mma coach, i seem to remember reading recently that you bring in a Muay Thai coach once a week!

If there was a striking club teaching BJJ and they were not qualified to teach it, people on here would be kicking up murder and calling them a UFC FIGHTING clubs but the reverse seems to be ok as far as the Bjj people are concerned.(unqualified people teaching striking)

it is off topic, you were talking bout the qualifications etc to be teaching striking??

the OP asked for a club tat train between 12-2 weekdays, before work so 7am-9am or just after I finish so no later than 6pm somewhere in the city centre the only club i know off that meet his requirements is SBG CC, can you name another club?

Shane Fitz

OLDMAN1 wrote: »

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Ideally, he'd be very experienced, but I'm of the opinion that proper coaching doesn't require having a load of fights under your belt. Great coaches are made through learning how to coach.

As for the qualifications? Look this is the martial arts and off the top of my head I can think of a half dozen guys who wouldn't be able to box eggs who are stand up coaches of one creed or another. But I don't bother myself with it because there's nothing I can do about it. They'll still exist and I'll be stressed at the end of it.

Very high standard of stand-up at SBG mind you. My comments are not about them.

Dave80: i dont believe that it's off topic at all, the OP asked about a striking club and people are sending him to a BJJ/MMA club,this seems to be a reoccurring theme on here, someone comes on asking about Karate,Kung Fu, Muay Thai,Judo,KM or face painting and they get the same reply, JOIN A BJJ CLUB,If some people are going to recommend a club the least they should do is state there qualifications and i dont mean, i did 6 month boxing,kickboxing or Muay Thai training when i was 16 and had one or two fights so now im qualified to coach it.

Barry i wouldn't nescessarily disagree with anything you said, it's a very diplomatic answer.But your still not answering the question? as a experienced martial artist and mma coach, i seem to remember reading recently that you bring in a Muay Thai coach once a week!

If there was a striking club teaching BJJ and they were not qualified to teach it, people on here would be kicking up murder and calling them a UFC FIGHTING clubs but the reverse seems to be ok as far as the Bjj people are concerned.(unqualified people teaching striking)

Can you give an example yourself as to what "qualifies" an individual to coach/teach a martial arts class, striking or grappling styles?

I didn't realise there were coaching qualifications in martial arts.

Barry.Oglesby

Ah now you're just being petty Shane, we all know there's no "qualifications" as such so playing the Devil's Advocate when we all know what OLDMAN means when he uses that word doesn't add anything to the debate.

Barry i wouldn't nescessarily disagree with anything you said, it's a very diplomatic answer.But your still not answering the question? as a experienced martial artist and mma coach, i seem to remember reading recently that you bring in a Muay Thai coach once a week!

No I never did that but previously my friend Paddy coached the Muay Thai in my gym and still would if he wasn't living in the US now .

My statement wasn't to be diplomatic, I just can't be arsed about that sort of thing anymore. There's far too much to be worried about. I'd sooner ensure higher standards in my own backyard than waste energy worrying about other people's qualifications or standards, whether they be better or worse than mine. I'm certainly not going to get concerned because someone recommends a lunchtime kickboxing class to anyone

Shane Fitz

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Ah now you're just being petty Shane...

ah, i know .. but only to show how silly this debate had become.. the OP asked for city centre premises that held lunch time classes, and he was ponted to one such place... he would find out for himself, upon visiting, if it was for him or not. That should be the end of it.

Doug Cartel

Oldman, he asked for a striking class with certain constraints on time and location, this is a striking class that meets those constraints.

You might not think it is a good class, but the club has a very good reputation in general, so you'll need to have some better reasoning than just a hunch before you start slagging it.

peteclarke

Im not looking for an argument or making a smart comment, but I cant help wondering about this guy, oldman.
What type of training does he do?
Is he the coach?
Is he old?
Im just interested because for someone who doesnt seem to be a fan of bjj he spends alot of time on the bjj forum.
Again Im genuinely not having a go. I just see him post alot and wonder what his backround is.

Doug Cartel

peteclarke wrote: »

Im not looking for an argument or making a smart comment, but I cant help wondering about this guy, oldman.
What type of training does he do?
Is he the coach?
Is he old?

Does it really matter? The OP has said he is going to check the class out anyway.

Im just interested because for someone who doesnt seem to be a fan of bjj he spends alot of time on the bjj forum.

This is not the BJJ forum.

lukeyjudo

Doug Cartel wrote: »

This is not the BJJ forum.

Oh man it's not? *leaves forum* This is just like that time I went to sign up for BJJ Classes in University but all they had was judo... *shakes head and mopes off*

OLDMAN1

peteclarke wrote: »

Im not looking for an argument or making a smart comment, but I cant help wondering about this guy, oldman.
What type of training does he do?
Is he the coach?
Is he old?

Im just interested because for someone who doesnt seem to be a fan of bjj he spends alot of time on the bjj forum.
Again Im genuinely not having a go. I just see him post alot and wonder what his backround is.

Petelarke: As Doug has already stated this is not a BJJ forum and i would just like to point out that this is'nt even a Bjj threand ,It's a striking threand(but thanks for proving a point that i was trying to make with someone else about this board) Now the Bjj guys on here have no problem reading it, which is there right as its a open forum. But remember that works both ways, non Bjj people are allowed read the Bjj threands too.
On the subject of Bjj, although i have never trained in it and can only comment from what i have seen on places like utube or videos that have been posted here, im a huge fan and in my opinion it is ONE of the best combat sports out there,But not the only one.Its not the sport that i dislike its SOME of the people that do it, to me they seem to be a bunch of 17-24 year olds that have been training for 2 to 5 years at most and THINK they know it all.With some i would goes as far as to say they go on like they belong to religious CULT, some really need to stop being so closed minded . Now i relise that not all Bjj guys are like that but there seems to be a lot of that type on here...

I hope the OP enjoys his training and keeps it up

peteclarke

Doug Cartel wrote: »

Does it really matter? The OP has said he is going to check the class out anyway.

No it doesn't. Just wanted to know. So much so that I took the time to post here and send a pm.
If I know more info about the people who post here it makes the discussions more interesting.

peteclarke

Doug Cartel wrote: »

Does it really matter? The OP has said he is going to check the class out anyway.


This is not the BJJ forum.

never said it was. I said he spends time in the bjj forum.

Richy06

There is no BJJ forum on here....

Doug Cartel

Right, this thread is about early morning, or lunchtime striking classes in Dublin city centre. If anyone wants to discuss anything other than that, do it in another thread.