Lay of the Day Thread

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tempted to lay doctor finlay at 3.05 or so
a lot of weight and come on the irons would be
my idea of the winner

ill let this one run though but im curious to see how it gets on
4.20here 2m

edit: 2nd beaten a neck but the winner
was always holding dr finlay

something was stopping me laying it though

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5.35 uncle bryn 3..35

shown nothing so far but goes handicapping

bit late just off


edit: bit late when i started looking
plenty of money for it but well beaten

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6.20 kem conducting 2.38

has to be taken on at the price
form is very ordinary overall, ran well enough last time out
but runs before that very poor
i'd prefer the consistent chilledtothebone and there's
plenty of other possibilities like sky diamond who will
give their running
the drop in class might do the trick but i'd prefer to
lay a horse at the price that has been very disappointing.

edit: finished 4th sky diamond beats chilledtothebone.
looked a threat 2 furlongs out but ran on at one pace
beaten about a length
Just a disappointing type that has to be taken on at short odds

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7.20 kem eclipseoftheheart 2.4

torn between laying this and backing always like this at twice the odds

market says it's a 3 horse race but it's possible a newcomer might take it.

form is ordinary enough and no better than the form of always like this imo
hasn't run on this surface though so i've no idea whether that might
bring out improvement

very small stake and i'm thinking maybe i should let this one go
but i do fancy always like this to put it up to the favourite

edit: wins

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4.0here king benny 3.2

have to take this on at that price
his latest runs were very poor and although this is
a very week contest i still think it might struggle

the possible downside is that there was a lot of money for
this throughout the day and mcoy is on board so it may
be showing something at home

i'd prefer tigger myself at around the same odds and there's other
possibilities like always cruising

edit: the money was right
our benny wins

6.50 Kempton Pulverize 2.38

Lots of reasons why I reckon this price is no value at all, I expect the price to get bigger before the off
- AW debut
- 8f debut
- not bad 7f effort on it's sole start so far but nothing to get carried away with
- nothing fantastic in the breeding to encourage backing it at these odds

shameless copy and paste from my thread in challenges/logs.

RoverJames

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6.50 Kempton Pulverize 2.38..............

Well beaten but backed into 10/11 SP :eek:
I couldn't believe it when I saw the price.

UrbanSea

Graduation Night 2.55 Chepstow Lay 2.4

Easy to see why he's favourite. Went from around 6/1 inro 15/8 on his chasing debut last week when winning by 40 plus lengths. However that was good to firm and I couldn't bring myself to back a horse gone from that to heavy ground when he has no form whatsoever on heavy

UrbanSea

Sorry I forgot to write back after the other. Think that last lay won it's race by about 20 lengths.

I think Wymott could be a good lay today. Not sure what he's trading but he's an 11/4 shot. I fancied him for the Hennessy over 2 furlongs further. Although that was a much hotter race,he looked very slow to me and needs further than today, the one worry is that he'll get away with it because it isn't a great race

UrbanSea

Wymott pulls up.

mailburner

didnt see any point starting another laying thread so i'm gonna
try and resurrect this one

i'll give it a crack for 2 weeks for small stakes and take it from there
if i remain disciplined i think i have a good shot at making a little and
ill stay below 3/1 as my heart cant take laying big priced winners or
close calls

4.45 all time
layed this 20 mins ago at 3.25
appears to be drifting to the price i think it should be now on bfair
only 15/8 with the bookies
form is very ordinary and theres nothing between this one and
the next three in the betting on form
looks like a disappointing horse to me

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6.10 rosc beach of falesa

carrying topweight i feel its a huge ask to give weight away to
this field
the bookies price of 9/4 is a joke
may have had one run too many in a short space of time when
beaten last time out though but before that looked a decent
animal barely coming off the bridle in one race but hadnt much to give
when push came to shove in another race
3.25 to back at the moment with no lay market up yet (7.2)

In my laying days i'd have been laying this for a nice bit (my budget)
if it goes past 4.0 ill give it a miss though
if this one wins then i really feel laying is not for me

had 4 picked out today and only went with all time and the other 3 lost
so ill go with what in my head right now also
gonna have a look at hawsies dream and neige dantan at kemp depending on prices
the latter might improve for the step up in trip but its one to avoid at all costs imo
the former just too short for a race of that nature and is currently around 3.5

edit: layed at 3.85

mailburner

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6.10 rosc beach of falesa



edit: layed at 3.85

3rd, beaten 3 lengths
looked a threat 2 out travelling well enough and given
a confident ride and every chance by the jockey but
it was a tough ask and never quite looked like getting there
bsp was 4.5

mailburner

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gonna have a look at hawsies dream and neige dantan at kemp depending on prices
the latter might improve for the step up in trip but its one to avoid at all costs imo

neige dantan 3rd beaten 2.5 lengths...waited hoping to lay at 4.0 but
went off at 4.3
hawsie a non runner

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4.25 perth bingo des mottes (around 6/4)

awful short price for what the horse has achieved
last time out was a decent run (5/2f) when well beaten by a 33/1 shot but
a couple of the fancied runners who were travelling well fell late on which
takes from that imo
this is an awful poor race however and its not easy picking one out
with any confidence
i'll wait to see if theres much market confidence behind bingo before
i do anything (backed from 5s to 5/2 last time out)


only had a quick look at the day meetings and the only other one
to catch my eye was chrysanthemum which is 5/2 with the bookies

mailburner

Layed chrysanthemum at 3.8 now as I won't get to see the race (3.0gp)

Bingo too big at 3.35 atm

mailburner

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Layed chrysanthemum at 3.8 now as I won't get to see the race (3.0gp)

chrysanthemum beaten 8l
writing was on the wall half way through the race when
being scrubbed along
was giving a lot of weight away to a decent enough field
returned bsp 3.7

mailburner

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Layed chrysanthemum at 3.8 now as I won't get to see the race (3.0gp)

Bingo too big at 3.35 atm

layed bingo at 2.36

finding one to be confident about is hard though
probably should have left it alone...time will tell

mailburner

mailburner wrote: »

layed bingo at 2.36

finding one to be confident about is hard though
probably should have left it alone...time will tell

should have let that one go with the opposition being that poor
wins by under a length

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6.30 wor shoegazer currently 4.3

think this fella is worth taking on giving weight away to two
decent rivals
weakened very tamely over 25f three days ago (26ftoday) and
in its previous race over shorter
they were hurdles and this is a chase and shoegazer is a better chaser
but those two runs, hurdles or not looked bad enough to me
hoping a few quid comes for it before the off so i can lay at 4.0

mailburner

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6.30 wor shoegazer currently 4.3

think this fella is worth taking on giving weight away to two
decent rivals
weakened very tamely over 25f three days ago (26ftoday) and
in its previous race over shorter
they were hurdles and this is a chase and shoegazer is a better chaser
but those two runs, hurdles or not looked bad enough to me
hoping a few quid comes for it before the off so i can lay at 4.0

layed at 4.0

mailburner

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layed at 4.0

shoegazer fell at the 2nd last or went for a gap that wasnt there which
may have contributed to his fall
all three were in it at that stage
hard to know how it would have finished but it would have
been between the winner and shoegazer by the looks of it

mailburner

6.10 folk alhaarth beauty 2.7

just layed this at 2.7

ran in a couple of better races but still well beaten
way too short at the price and its on the drift which
can only be good for layers from the tim vaughn stable

mailburner

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6.10 folk alhaarth <a class="ktg6us78hf8vdu7" href="#">beauty</a> 2.7

just layed this at 2.7

ran in a couple of better races but still well beaten
way too short at the price and its on the drift which
can only be good for layers from the tim vaughn stable

2nd beaten a length
was worried there with a couple of furlongs to go
returned 3.46 bsp

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7.25wex domination 2.9

just layed this
seems very short even though the chances are obvious
have to take it on at the price

saint gervais would be my idea of the winner

mailburner

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7.25wex domination 2.9

just layed this
seems <a class="ktg6us78hf8vdu7" href="#">very</a> short even though the chances are obvious
have to take it on at the price

saint gervais would be my idea of the winner

2nd
beaten about half a length
i'm getting the breaks so far

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3.20good Aljamaaheer layed at 3.35

this horse was very unlucky when short of room and beaten under
a length behind trumpet major a few weeks back
despite that the horse is 4lbs worse off and i'd fancy trumpet
major to uphold the form
chachmaidee and thistle bird are two very good alternatives also

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3.20good Aljamaaheer layed at 3.35

3rd but close in the end
won by the outsider of the lot

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3.50cur

layed snow queen at 3.3

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3.50cur

layed snow queen at 3.3

wins by a neck

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4.55cart porgy layed at 3.7

might get out if theres a gamble given its the brian ellison stable but
doesnt appear to be much good of a hurdler

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4.55cart porgy layed at 3.7

might get out if theres a gamble given its the brian ellison stable but
doesnt appear to be much good of a hurdler

porgy 2nd

not coming easy today

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5.30 layed good morning and goodness 4.9 + 5.3

a race full of donkeys
anything could win this

mailburner

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5.30 layed good morning and goodness 4.9 + 5.3

a race full of donkeys
anything could win this

bad idea
first morning wins easily

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5.20 rip exning halt layed at 4.0 (due off at 5.50 app)

seems an awful short price for a horse whos been consistent
but very one paced
any one of the field could win this

mailburner

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5.20 rip exning halt layed at 4.0 (due off at 5.50 app)

seems an awful short price for a <a class="ktg6us78hf8vdu7" href="#">horse</a> whos been consistent
but very one paced
any one of the field could win this

2nd, close enough though

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8.15 coach bombay layed at 3.2

i think the price is just to short for a race of this nature
there has been money for it which worries me a little and it has
won over course and distance already
looking at the opposition its hard to find one that stands out
but theres a few with bits and pieces of form
i could never back winners at dundalk so here hoping this one
doesnt past the post in front

mailburner

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8.15 coach bombay layed at 3.2

i think the price is just to short for a race of this nature
there has been money for it which worries me a little and it has
won over course and distance already
looking at the opposition its hard to find one that stands out
but theres a few with bits and pieces of form
i could never back winners at dundalk so here hoping this one
doesnt past the post in front

3rd but very unlucky in running
probably a stupid lay in hindsight given how much money
went on the horse
came so close to backing it in running

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5.50 dubawi island layed at 3.25

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5.50 dubawi island layed at 3.25

easy winner sadly

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7.0bal osana layed at 2.58

have to take it on at the price even if potentially different class

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7.0bal osana layed at 2.58

have to take it on at the price even if potentially different class

less said about that the better

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4.20w trendelenberg layed at 2.76

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4.20w trendelenberg layed at 2.76

2nd

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9.20kemp triple charm layed at 2.98

just a bit too short in a wide open race

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9.20kemp triple charm layed at 2.98

just a bit too short in a wide open race

won

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5.55mr laying chesapeake for a place at 2.94

if i can't get this one up im giving up :pac:

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5.55mr laying chesapeake for a place at 2.94

if i can't get this one up im giving up :pac:

donkey thank fook

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4.30fo runaway girl layed at 3.6

ran on well last time over same distance but was still beaten 8l
too short imo in a wide open race

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4.30fo runaway girl layed at 3.6

ran on well last time over same distance but was still beaten 8l
too short imo in a wide open race

well beaten