Son Of General Retro Discussion

o1s1n

Feck Africa, the Dune soundtrack is where it's at!

Retr0gamer

I'm pretty sure that that megadrive adapter would be a complete disaster. It probably has the MD internals on the cart, cheap Chinese knock off components. My guess is it's just receiving power from the SNES and running a cheap knock off MD, not exactly high tech. If the game is running through the SNES video hardware it would lead to all sorts of problems since the SNES runs at two weird resolutions, both of which are completely different to the MD's output. I guess those composite cables plug into the cartridge. There's another problem, composite only I'm guessing. You'd be better off getting a megadrive clone and even then you are wating your money.

Doge

So all the SNES is doing is providing power to the cart? :pac:

Couldn't see the video earlier so didn't know you had to plug the AV cables into it!

At least it has better sound that other ****e MD clones though!

Would have been cool a cool accomplishment if it really played through the SNES.

Retr0gamer

waveform wrote: »

So all the SNES is doing is providing power to the cart? :pac:

Couldn't see the video earlier so didn't know you had to plug the AV cables into it!

At least it has better sound that other ****e MD clones though!

Would have been cool a cool accomplishment if it really played through the SNES.

As I mentioned it wouldn't be possible since the SNES outputs in two resolutions both or which are completely different to the MD resolution. Also the clock speed of the SNES chip is extremely slow compared to the MD and it's a belongs to a completely different family. It's not possible at all.

As for it having better sound than most MD clones, I heard that about loads of MD clones in youtube videos. Youtube reviews are mostly conducted by people that don't know what they are talking about, there are exceptions but I highly doubt a chinese clone that is produced as cheap as possible has an authentic sounding sound chip considering how complex the MD sound chip is, from what I read anyway from developers.

Doge

The guy in the video mentioned it doesn't have the pitch problems of the firecore clones, so at least thats one aspect of the sound that's better.

Would need to hear the sound in other games though to get reach a decent conclusion.

chrislad

Having a very retro few weeks - the last games I've played are

Final Fantasy VIII - PSOne
Rad Gravity - NES
Metroid: Fusion - GBA
Metroid: Zero Mission - GBA
Super Metroid - SNES (still on this)

I think Zelda: Link to the Past is going to be next. Been a while since I played it.

Doge

Dear god, the RetroGen is compatible with the Retro Duo portable NES + SNES clone, and is being sold as an accessory for it: (left hand

http://retroduoportable.com/

Could you imagine actually loading the games in like that,
you'd almost fall over with the weight of it in your hands!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqgUl2QfqRU

That interviewer is such a poser!



Edit: To play the NES games you must even use a longer adapter called the Retro Port!

Doge

Turns out the Retro Gen Adapter is most similar to the Retron 3 clone, so for the price its pretty decent sound and video wise for a clone.

It uses the same Genesis On A Chip as the Retron 3,
and also uses the same FM sound chip, the YM3438.

The YM3438 is actually a "bug fixed" version of the YM2612,
so notes play a bit shorter and it has a slighty different sound.

What's interesting about this 3438, is it's what the 2612 should have sounded like first day.

A bit like the 6581 and 8580 SIDs.

The PSG is louder than the Megadrive's though, and has a different tone,
although its not as loud as the Retron 3.

There's a very insightful review of it here:

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?19959-Retro-Gen-Adapter&p=468660&viewfull=1#post468660


And some pictures of the guts also:

Myrddin

What a piece of sh1t, all the snes is doing is functioning as a PSU. Why not just release the thing with a damned 12v adaptor instead

Doge

EnterNow wrote: »

What a piece of sh1t, all the snes is doing is functioning as a PSU. Why not just release the thing with a damned 12v adaptor instead

And control it how exactly? By the power of telekinesis? :pac:

You'll need some controller ports on there too. :P

Myrddin

waveform wrote: »

And control it how exactly? By the power of telekinesis? :pac:

You'll need some controller ports on there too. :P

It's a Genesis on a chip, the architecture is probably more or less already there. All you'd need is to put the ports on, or hell, mount the bloody thing inside a controller like the modern ones.

Doge

EnterNow wrote: »

It's a Genesis on a chip, the architecture is probably more or less already there. All you'd need is to put the ports on, or hell, mount the bloody thing inside a controller like the modern ones.

I'm only taking the piss! I just pictured the unit as is, with a dc jack and no controller ports!

Jack burton

waveform wrote: »

That interviewer is such a dickhead poser!

FYP

a5y

:eek: Go Google now!



Robert Moogs 78th Birthday!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eT-SnH7Wig

Doge

After clicking the doodle you can use the keys on your keyboard to play the notes.

Makes it easy to tweak controls with the mouse simultaneously!

The 4 track recorded is sweet to, you can share recordings of your tracks by hitting the link button underneath.

Myrddin

safetyboy

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/list/21296/28-videogame-cameos-in-the-movies

Andrew76

safetyboy wrote: »

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/list/21296/28-videogame-cameos-in-the-movies

Was only watching Robocop 2 the other night and cringed at the cabs getting smashed about. Couldn't stick it to the end regardless, crap film. :pac:

DinoRex

Andrew76 wrote: »

Was only watching Robocop 2 the other night and cringed at the cabs getting smashed about. Couldn't stick it to the end regardless, crap film. :pac:

Yeah... forget about the child murder... Those poor cabs!

Andrew76

DinoRex wrote: »

Yeah... forget about the child murder... Those poor cabs!

Lol at Mr. Morals. Did a child get murdered? Didn't get that far and can't remember from when I saw it originally.

DinoRex

Andrew76 wrote: »

Lol at Mr. Morals. Did a child get murdered? Didn't get that far and can't remember from when I saw it originally.

Yeah. Most people thought they went too far with that... The kid was an absolute sh*t though.

Can anyone name the Hollywood blockbuster that had a NEC Turbo Express in it as a major plot element?

Professey Chin

Enemy of the State?

DinoRex

Yep. That's the one.

Professey Chin

Yayyyyyyyyyy

Now where my cookie? -_-

Doge

Myrddin

DinoRex wrote: »

Yeah... forget about the child murder... Those poor cabs!

The child would have been grand once the scene was over, the cabs though, they wern't acting

DinoRex

Having never played Diablo 1 and 2 I was up late last night going over wikipedia articles trying to make sense of what was going on in Diablo 3.

johnny_ultimate

I believe you're simply meant to click your mouse several hundred thousand times? Everything else is inconsequential.

DinoRex

I need to know my motivation for killing the Spanish devil though.

Or it could just be about a hot sauce for all I know...

o1s1n

Why play Diablo 3 when DayZ exists?

Andrew76

o1s1n wrote: »

Why play Diablo 3 when DayZ exists?

Someone speaking sense! How anyone has time for retro gaming or any other games while DayZ is about I don't know. /legs it :pac:

Do you play it much o1s1n? Don't notice you on mumble with the other boardsies?

johnny_ultimate

Why play DayZ when so many other hundreds of equally great games also exist?

You see what I'm getting at here.

Myrddin

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Why play DayZ when so many other hundreds of equally great games also exist?

You see what I'm getting at here.

Hmm, something to do with trilbys?

Andrew76

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Why play DayZ when so many other hundreds of equally great games also exist?

You see what I'm getting at here.

But they're not equally great. Although as all games are ultimately repetitive clicks and button presses with no real importance, why bother playing them at all, waste of time they are eh? Bit like watching films I guess...

johnny_ultimate

You're right: all games are just button pressing simulators! Kinect or nothing! *flails arms wildly in the hope my input will register*

The real question though: why listen to Guns n Roses when good music exists?

(they should rename this thread General Trolling Discussion)

Myrddin

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

You're right: all games are just button pressing simulators! Kinect or nothing! *flails arms wildly in the hope my input will register*

The real question though: why listen to Guns n Roses when good music exists?

(they should rename this thread General Trolling Discussion)

Tut tut, feeble attempt Ultimate. I seen you in the IFI tapping your foot to the beat of You Could Be Mine during T2. You failed miserably in the eyes of your fellow hipsters that day man

o1s1n

Andrew76 wrote: »

Do you play it much o1s1n? Don't notice you on mumble with the other boardsies?

No matter what I tried, I couldn't get into the server all the boardsies were playing on. So just played on others instead.

Trying to get at lest an hour or two in each night, absolutely love it. One of the best games I've played..well..ever really.

Was off sick from work yesterday so tried to spend some time configuring it to run better. I'd been getting very choppy framerates which seriously impacted my ability to shoot anything. Got it running lovely now, nice and smooth.

The new version is mental though with the temperature/having to heat yourself/catching a cold. It suddenly made rainfall dangerous too!

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Why play DayZ when so many other hundreds of equally great games also exist?

You see what I'm getting at here.

In all honesty, if there's one single game you're going to play this year for an experience which will make you reconsider the whole medium in itself, DayZ is it. Pass it up at your peril

Myrddin

o1s1n wrote: »

Pass it up at your peril

Zombies are not a genre Sir Ultimate seems to enjoy, I think he feels it's overdone. He's right I guess, but that doesn't mean something isn't gonna come along & blow the competition away resulting in a damned good game, as in this case.

Maybe they should put in Asian zombies, with a bizarre rhythm based theme tune, strip out all the English language, remove the guns too & use tentacle based weapons...& top it off with a box cover thats been Instagram'd....a hipster hit there for sure

johnny_ultimate

EnterNow wrote: »

Tut tut, feeble attempt Ultimate. I seen you in the IFI tapping your foot to the beat of You Could Be Mine during T2. You failed miserably in the eyes of your fellow hipsters that day man

I thought Terminator 2 was the Algerian four hour experimental film of the same name. Took an imdb visit to prove otherwise.

Myrddin

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I thought Terminator 2 was the Algerian four hour experimental film of the same name. Took an imdb visit to prove otherwise.

Surely you knew by the crowd? All the fedora hooks on the edge of the seats were empty.

johnny_ultimate

I just presumed the T1000 was a metaphor for France, selfishly destroying all in its way. While John Connor was a symbol of Algerian independence. Reminiscent of Michael Haneke's Cache, but subversivelly realised through the genre tropes of science fiction.

I also presumed the fedora hooks were being dry cleaned.

Doge

TF IS DIS ****!

I think i remember the adverts for it, or at least something similar.

Myrddin

A gimmick

ghostchant

o1s1n wrote: »

In all honesty, if there's one single game you're going to play this year for an experience which will make you reconsider the whole medium in itself, DayZ is it. Pass it up at your peril

I don't use a computer outside of work these days so it's a non-starter for me, but would like a shot at it for the sake of it. Journey is still shining brightly as the most unique gaming experience this year for me; my favourite use of online multiplayer ever, with Demon's/Dark Souls after that.

johnny_ultimate

Im the same - even if I could get over my dislike of zombies, I have not the tech to play DayZ.

Journey and Dear Esther are, combined, the two 'games' that have really helped redefine my expectations this year.

o1s1n

It's not really a Zombie game though. That's like calling GTA a driving game.

If you took the zombies out it would still stand on its feet as being an absolutely amazing game. The zombies just add another element of fear and difficulty in looting.

Unfortunately it does seem to require a beefy enough PC. Has to be the insane draw distances in Arma 2 and the foliage. Other than that, that visuals are very sub anything current gen and it should theoretically run on a far less powerful system.

Is Journey PS3 only? It's high on my list, I just have the same problem as you guys do in that I don't have the hardware to play it on.

Dear Esther looks a bit too hipster for my liking :P

Andrew76

o1s1n wrote: »

No matter what I tried, I couldn't get into the server all the boardsies were playing on. So just played on others instead.

Trying to get at lest an hour or two in each night, absolutely love it. One of the best games I've played..well..ever really.

Was off sick from work yesterday so tried to spend some time configuring it to run better. I'd been getting very choppy framerates which seriously impacted my ability to shoot anything. Got it running lovely now, nice and smooth.

The new version is mental though with the temperature/having to heat yourself/catching a cold. It suddenly made rainfall dangerous too!

Would be good craic to roam the hills with you in the group. The coughing is brilliantly done - there were 5 of us in a group last night and one had a cold. Nobody wanted to stand near him incase we caught it. It's also fairly noisy so gives away your position to zombies and other players alike. Not being able to fill your water bottle at the sea is also a big change for me - much more nervous having to trek miles to a pond or water pump in case I get sniped.

o1s1n wrote: »

It's not really a Zombie game though. That's like calling GTA a driving game.

If you took the zombies out it would still stand on its feet as being an absolutely amazing game. The zombies just add another element of fear and difficulty in looting.

Unfortunately it does seem to require a beefy enough PC. Has to be the insane draw distances in Arma 2 and the foliage. Other than that, that visuals are very sub anything current gen and it should theoretically run on a far less powerful system.

Is Journey PS3 only? It's high on my list, I just have the same problem as you guys do in that I don't have the hardware to play it on.

Dear Esther looks a bit too hipster for my liking :P

Very true. Other players are more of a worry in the game - nobody trusts anybody. :pac: Should be able to run fairly ok on most machines these days I would have thought, my PC is ancient - intel quad core thing, 8GB RAM and NVidia GX280 or something - dinosaur. Game runs fine though.

Downloaded Dear Esther from Steam the other day because it was cheap and had glowing review comments - loaded it up, walked up to the house at the start and turned it off. Never went back.

DinoRex

Cool. The Science Gallery's next exhibition is going to be a gaming one with retro gaming components.

LINK:

http://www.sciencegallery.com/game

Doge

http://www.livestream.com/makelive/video?clipId=pla_ffc1d80a-5540-4ef9-a756-5488a7b6a6f1

50 seconds in.

Female + c64 + guitar + FPGA speak + Valve employee = Instaboner

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy

DinoRex wrote: »

The Science Gallery's next exhibition is going to be a gaming one with retro gaming components.

My friend's sister was supposed to be part of that glad it worked out
we should make a beers out of it!