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Son Of General Retro Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    See before I would have thought 'who am I to question if Enternow has a console modded?'

    But then I heard about the 50hz Megadrive and my world came tumbling down!

    Nice one on the Wind waker Gamecube - was that from back in the days where multiple consoles were plenty?

    Pretty sure I don't have any 100% boxed up unused consoles left anymore!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    o1s1n wrote: »
    See before I would have thought 'who am I to question if Enternow has a console modded?'

    But then I heard about the 50hz Megadrive and my world came tumbling down!

    Nice one on the Gamecube - was that from back in the days where multiple consoles were plenty?

    Pretty sure I don't have any 100% boxed up unused consoles left anymore!

    Ah the Megadrive has since been sorted with a trip to Radionics :D

    Yeah I bought the Platinum one brand new & never used it. It's not sealed, but everything is bagged & in pristine condition. I got rid of all my duplicates some time ago but couldn't bring myself to sell that one, it's not worth much but I like owning it.

    I also couldn't sell on the Md2 & Mcd 2 because, well, they're different models and are exempt from duplicate law


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Super Mario Bros. gets downright evil come world 7. I cruised until then only to be destroyed in 7-1 and 7-2 which became my final resting place :(

    Is that the original NES version you're talking about? Don't remember that game being overly difficult at any point. Old age and slowing reflexes has probably caught up with you. :(

    That reminds me, I must download that demo ROM of Battle Kid 2 and see what it's like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Yeah same as Steve's, it has the full disc size lid on it & is chipped for multi region goodness. Of course, I also have a Platinum limited edition Windwaker Cube all boxed never even used...but thats only for looking at :D The Modded one is the workhorse

    I have a platnium version aswell, think mine was a metriod bundle, not too sure. Just after taking a look at those japanese GC boxes....


    ....damn you all. I just bought series 1 & 2 of Cereal Killers trading cards so my pocket cant take anymore for the week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    I have a platnium version aswell, think mine was a metriod bundle, not too sure. Just after taking a look at those japanese GC boxes....


    ....damn you all. I just bought series 1 & 2 of Cereal Killers trading cards so my pocket cant take anymore for the week

    They really are cool, way better than the PAL & US ones.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    Is that the original NES version you're talking about? Don't remember that game being overly difficult at any point. Old age and slowing reflexes has probably caught up with you. :(

    Yes it's the original and I'm actually finding I'm much better at games these days than I was when I was younger. It does get quite evil come World 7. Bullet bills and hammer bros everywhere so if you lose that fire flower you are boned.

    Also I'm beating this without warps and there's no continues in the original so you have to collect every coin you come across to build up lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    Might be a bit easier if you tried it at 50Hz ?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Might be a bit easier if you tried it at 50Hz ?

    It's actually PAL optimised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    top 25 sega mega drive games - dorkyl

    At the risk of sounding like johnny ultimate, how mainstream!

    Not a single treasure game.....DONT WORRY WE HAVE ALL MORTAL KOMBAT II AND 3

    **** sake..............and no ristar! OR SHINOBI III, ok I'll stop now


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    top 25 sega mega drive games - dorkyl

    At the risk of sounding like johnny ultimate, how mainstream!

    Not a single treasure game.....DONT WORRY WE HAVE ALL MORTAL KOMBAT II AND 3

    **** sake..............and no ristar! OR SHINOBI III, ok I'll stop now

    What absolute ****. Altered Beast, Streets of Rage 3, Double Dragon, Battletoads, Mortal Kombat 2 and 3 are borderline awful or just plain awful. Where's Gunstar Heroes, Phantasy Star 4, Jungle Strike, Revenge of Shinobi, Shinobi 3, Shining Force 2, Rocket Knight Adventures, Contra, Thunderforce 4.

    FFS, these are all mainstream games as well, I'm not even trying to be a videogame hipster!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    Top 25 Megadrive games people remember more like...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    This is kind of worrying, I need to get to japan fast:

    http://famicomblog.blogspot.ie/2012/07/japanese-retro-game-shops-in-decline.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I need to get to japan fast

    4 MORE SLEEPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Casey120


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    4 MORE SLEEPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Well I found out that the 3DS does charge on a European DSi/3DS charger... well if the house hasn't burnt down when I get home then I'll be sure!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Well I found out that the 3DS does charge on a European DSi/3DS charger... well if the house hasn't burnt down when I get home then I'll be sure!

    I knew it had to, where did you here they were different voltages?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,571 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    will i buy kid icarus 3ds or shinobi or that ruiney one?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    h0la! I built a working psu adaptor for the Commodore 1541 drive, hurray!

    , next I have to build a serial cable ( I have a few 6 pin din plugs spare)
    plus side , its free, downside , I feckin HATE soldering DIN plugs!


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,832 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


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    OwaynOTT wrote: »
    will i buy kid icarus 3ds or shinobi or that ruiney one?

    Icarus, mos def! Crazy amount of content, great fun once your hand has transformed into a mandatory claw like appendage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,571 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    B

    Icarus, mos def! Crazy amount of content, great fun once your hand has transformed into a mandatory claw like appendage.

    I get 3ds claw cramp from mario kart 7, so is it worse than that? That could be a breaker for me.

    I think I'm going to get the xl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,571 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    EnterNow wrote: »
    1304618376_tumbleweed-gif.gif

    tumbleweed hunt on the nes, love that game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Shinobi is only 11euro in HMV. It's by the door on the left on the way out. A few of them down the bottom of the rack.

    Anyone get Spirit Camera for the 3DS yet? Just noticed it in HMV today. I think I'll pick it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Shinobi is only 11euro in HMV. It's by the door on the left on the way out. A few of them down the bottom of the rack.

    Anyone get Spirit Camera for the 3DS yet? Just noticed it in HMV today. I think I'll pick it up.

    I'd get it but I'd imagine I'd lose the little book about 5 seconds after opening the box.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I was thinking about Spirit Camera myself but the reviews have been firmly in 6/10 territory.
    Now, I know some 6/10 games have turned out quite good.... but in this case I reckon let someone else invest and check out their opinion.
    Must pick up Starfox 64 again, although I should probably invest a bit in the games I already have!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Casey120 wrote: »
    DSCF5326640x472.jpg

    LOVE THAT!

    Wrong shop, but I do have (at least I hope I do) reservations made for both those games, plus some other 'stuff'. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    plus some other 'stuff'. ;)

    It's not those bottles of piss is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    o1s1n wrote: »
    It's not those bottles of piss is it?

    *gargle* What was that? :pac:


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,832 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Whiskey aside ("Suntory Time"), most Japanese drinks do lean unfortunately towards the 'piss' end of the spectrum. Even the greatest mascot of them all - "Boss of them All since 1992" - couldn't get me to drink a can of rank cold coffee. At least the ads are good. The first ad is probably better than any recent Final Fantasy game. Apparently the drink itself is some weird herb **** though. Shame.





  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,832 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    OwaynOTT wrote: »
    I get 3ds claw cramp from mario kart 7, so is it worse than that? That could be a breaker for me.

    Kid Icarus brings new meaning to "the claw". It's genuinely hurts to play for extended periods :pac: But I somehow taught myself to play it on the bus. Eventually. Still, it's not one for anyone with arthritis. It's an absolutely fantastic game though, once you get past that major hurdle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    *gargle* What was that? :pac:

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,832 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Final Fantasy VII definitely coming to PC again. They've added a new feature (other than 'Cloud' saves, arf arf arf):
    Find yourself stuck on a difficult section or lacking the funds to buy that vital Phoenix Down? With the Character Booster you can increase your HP, MP and Gil levels to their maximum, all with the simple click of a button, leaving you to enjoy your adventure.

    Because what FFVII really needed was monetary microtransactions that completely unbalance the game.

    Here's to progress!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Eh wtf, that sounds idiotic. Might as well just use cheats.

    You'd want to be crap not to be able to finish FF VII normally anyway!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,832 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I can see plenty of people paying for that frickin' underwater materia, though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭a5y


    I can see plenty of people paying for that frickin' underwater materia, though.

    I don't remember underwater being so hard to get.

    At least not compared to the amount of grind it takes to master Final Attack, Revive, and Knights of Go Make A Sandwich Because You're Sick of The Unskippable Cut Scene's Duration.

    And the needlessly unintuitive chocobo catching & breeding crap needed just to get to that one island.

    (WTF was I thinking playing that game? WT actual F?

    FF7 must be the only game I'm actually embarrassed to say I played and enjoyed. Its like saying "Thanks Dr. Milgram, I really had fun participating in that experiment in mindless unquestioning go-with-the-flow obedience today."

    If I was trolling I'd embed that troll cat gif I like in at the end, but the thing is, I'm not trolling.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    a5y, you're beginning to sound like Retr0 - I'd be very careful of that.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,832 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Iffy chocobo racing aside - who'd have thought they control like broken tanks when forced to race for the amusement of rabid punters? - I always thoroughly enjoyed the extended Chocobo quest. If you follow the (pretty clear!) instructions of that guy in the hut, it doesn't take that long at all. Never could warm to any of the chocobo subquests in the rest of the series as a result. Was it VIII or IX that had the Chocobo forests? They were nothing compared to the joy of finally hatching a black chocobo!

    It's been a while since I played, but I remember underwater materia being poorly signposted. Very easy to miss without a guide. Was there an NPC who told you about it? Again, been at least six or seven years since I've played it, so my memory of some things is a little hazy.

    What I do remember is how surprisingly funny the game is. Never realised you could actually get in to the brothel at the start until my third playthrough. Bizarre stuff. And the date with Barrett is a classic ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,571 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Kid Icarus brings new meaning to "the claw". It's genuinely hurts to play for extended periods :pac: But I somehow taught myself to play it on the bus. Eventually. Still, it's not one for anyone with arthritis. It's an absolutely fantastic game though, once you get past that major hurdle.

    Going end up with a 'strong hand' from playing the 3ds

    scary_2_hand.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Not sure the trainer is needed, it's not like FFVII is a tough game, it's a total breeze and really simplistic for a JRPG.

    Don't think there's any shame in enjoying FFVII. It's a great game and lots of fun just don't come telling me that the absolute nonsense plot was amazing or anything.

    Now saying you enjoyed the plot of Kingdom Hearts 2 and onwards, that's a different matter entirely.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Definitely reckon Kid Icarus is going to be a franchise Ninty will mine into the future, especially when a solid game producer like HAL are in there.
    I can see a WiiU sequel ahead, and it will rock.


    Won't cause "Claw Hand" either.


    The first game to inflict that was Metroid Prime: Hunters on the DS, and awkward frakker to play, painful too!

    Most painful, playing Ridge Racer Type 4 with a JogCon, absolute murder!

    I hear playing DC Rez with an unwashed Trance Pack "installed" is to be avoided as well....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    just don't come telling me that the absolute nonsense plot was amazing or anything.

    Persona 4 -

    After the protagonist and his friends (accidentally) enter the TV world, they encounter Teddie, who helps them travel freely between the TV and real worlds.[24] They awaken their Persona abilities (the protagonist first, Yosuke second, Chie third, etc.), and, realizing that the murders stem from Shadow attacks in the TV world, are able to rescue several would-be victims.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Well at least Persona 4's story is works well within it's own universe and deals with some really deep social issues.

    It also doesn't rely on any Deus Ex Machina like the worst of the anime tropes 'his force of will was so strong'.

    Sephiroths force of will was so strong it kept him alive despite being impaled.

    His force of will was so strong he was able to control a alien creature that specialises in planetcide.

    Then there's the 'Weapons', the only explanation for them is that Evangelion came out in 1995 and the writer watched way too much of it.

    It's a rollercoaster ride but when you look back at it, it was nonsense.

    If you want to argue with me then my only reply is 'this guy are sick'.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    Dr Bob wrote: »
    h0la! I built a working psu adaptor for the Commodore 1541 drive, hurray!

    , next I have to build a serial cable ( I have a few 6 pin din plugs spare)
    plus side , its free, downside , I feckin HATE soldering DIN plugs!
    right , I am now an expert at makin' c64 serial cables :)
    handy hint 1 : use network cable , its perfect
    handy hint 2 : when you pick up the 6 pin din plugs , buy a socket as well, its 2 quid , and when you're soldering to the pins, if you have the plug in the socket (clamped or in helping hands or whatever) , if the plug plastic heats up , and the pins move , the socket will keep them straight.
    handy hint 3: heat shrink cable is you friend , cover each pin connection as soon as you solder!

    Have my drive working now , and did a test copy with star commander , and had r-type running on the '64 within a few minutes.
    yeah I could buy an ultimate 1541 but I like doing it the hard way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I really don't care (as I would imagine most don't) about what social issues a game comments on - I just want it to be a good game with a good involving story.

    Persona 4 is a great game and I really did find the whole going into the TV aspect interesting and original, but really, come on...going into a TV world to stop murders from happening in the real world. It really is a load of wacky Japanese nonsense. :P

    FF VII's storyline is vague and open ended..but I generally like that in media rather than having everything wrapped up in a neat little package.

    Where's the Deus Ex Machina in FF VII by the way?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    o1s1n wrote: »
    FF VII's storyline is vague and open ended..but I generally like that in media rather than having everything wrapped up in a neat little package.

    Where's the Deus Ex Machina in FF VII by the way?

    FFVII's story isn't vague and open ended at all, it's actually very simple. The only thing that is vague is the god awful localisation that makes it so hard to understand. Super soldier throws a tantrum when he finds his mother is an alien. Gets killed but stays alive due to the force of his will. Decides to use the force of his will to control his mother and get the black materia to create a wound in the earth so he can... become a god of planet with no life on it, great ambitions there.

    As for the deus ex machina, somebody using the 'force of their will' to control something that happens to be a few thousand miles away or keep himself alive is a deus ex machina in my books. There's plenty more there but that's the big one for me.

    Persona 4 may be a load of wacky japanese nonsense but there's nothing wrong with that as long as it's consistent within its own universe, something I feel FFVII doesn't do very well and instead relies on said deus ex machina.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭a5y


    o1s1n wrote: »
    a5y, you're beginning to sound like Retr0 - I'd be very careful of that.

    Question: When has Retr0 admitted embarrassment, about anything, ever? I don't think I need to start being too careful just yet.
    o1s1n wrote: »
    Where's the Deus Ex Machina in FF VII by the way?

    I can think of a few examples:

    Clouds' escape from from the second reactor interrupted by several hundred feet of falling. He survives because he lands in a flowerbed, the only flowerbed in the entire city. Fortunately, even though the flowerbed is inside a church, he isn't killed by crash landing on the roof, as that has already collapsed... and without crushing the flowerbed under its beams. What.

    There's the Tarzan cable in Midgar that just about will swing them to safety when the plate is dropped. For a cable that long it sure wasn't carrying any power or any obvious function, other than leading to the edge of the carnage. No explanation as to why it exists, but its just as well it does because its precisely the only thing that can save 'em.

    Then there's that junon cannon. The weapon that happens to be just about "just about powerful enough" for the only targets it is ever fired at. Only in all cases none of those targets existed at the time of its construction.

    Evidently the cannon was designed by engineers with crystal balls or something similar. Also, when the management of the supposedly narrow-minded and ruthless corporation were told about their request for a its budget to combat giant monsters, forcefields and preventing the end of the world they thought it was entirely reasonable. Just as well they did though because the world couldn't be saved if they hadn't listened.

    Also arguably/kinda/sorta deus ex machina:
    • Cait Sith the second (where was the stand-in when his predecessor got KO'ed every time up 'til then?)
    • the rocket and the entire space program (you'd think having a space program might be worth mentioning in the Shin Ra <3 tech stuff at the start of disc 1)
    • giant materia (somehow conveniently overlooked by all the materia looters right up until the moment the plot says to race against time and get them.)
    Yeah. I'm embarrassed because when I was playing through the first time, I didn't call the plot on a single one of these things.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Everytime I try to play FFVII, and I have it in my collection since the time it was a current game, I get hung up on the damn random battles and the linedancing that ensues...

    Does this make me a bad person?

    Pisses me off about DQVIII as well, sorry... :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Pisses me off about DQVIII as well, sorry...

    Dragon Quest V is my favourite in the series. Love that game.


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