Son Of General Retro Discussion

Retr0gamer

I heard a group of annoyed ebay master system sellers formed a group, tracked him down and tried to have him killed. The car was ruined in an epic M50 chase.

Mr.Saturn

Mr Vengeance wrote: »

I suppose what I'm trying to say is follow your nose and just enjoy stuff and try not to fall into a trap where you're just not enjoying it anymore, and your wasting resources on stuff you just don't want, just so you can stay true to an original ideal. This is why I believe going for complete collections is wrong - you end up buying loads of crap just to say you have every game for a particular format. Those resources could surely be put to better use on other systems? What ends up happening is the gamer gets fed up with it, having spent a fortune on P&P, and then the whole lot ends up on eBay a year after - a good example of this is Retro Gamer Magazine's editor Darren, who attempted to collect up every Dreamcast game to get released on PAL format, and then a year into it he sold the lot before getting every one.

I can empathize to an extent, but I don't have a problem will collectors as much as I do out-and-out hoarders. The kinda guy who'd buy his 7th copy of Mario Allstars, not to invest in it or to sell it on or whatnot, just 'cause it's cheap and there. I just struggle with the logic, really.

johnny_ultimate

Have you ever been standing at a urinal and thought this time could be more efficiently spent if you were playing videogames at the same time?

No?

Well some mad ****er in Japan did.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/10/20/segas-urinal-game-where-you-play-as-a-peeing-statue/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbBWSYBMnYk

The gameification of life marches ever onwards.

Retr0gamer

That looks the shit... I mean piss... I'm confused.

pdbhp

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

So, what really happened to the car, did you lodge it in the window of a HMV during a ram-raid and could back it out, so ran on foot with your bag'o swag over your shoulder????
You have a myth to protect here, a reputation of awesomeness to uphold!

Well my car at the moment is being repaired due to the timing chain snapping, so sorry to say no wild stories of manhandling shop assistants who neglect to stock the most obscure Japanese cute-em-ups.

It's my Birthday next week so am thinking of either getting Judgement Silversword or Ketsui Death Label both slightly pricey shmups but since someone else is paying I don't care:).
I've been dropping hints all over the place and leaving Play Asia pages open with said games bulging off the screen in their shmuppy goodness.

CiDeRmAn

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I heard a group of annoyed ebay master system sellers formed a group, tracked him down and tried to have him killed. The car was ruined in an epic M50 chase.

I found some footage of it all....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qNQKnKb3Nw

And

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnRGbxPoA28

And the lesson is
Never try to drive a Micra after playing Forza 4, just don't do it!

Mr Vengeance

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I only buy games I want to play. I might never get around to said game but I buy it with the intention of playing it.

So do I sometimes, but people who devote themselves to single formats with the interntion of buying games for just that end up buying loads of crap - you're much better off buying the best games for all the systems available as opposed to buying up Game X just because its on your favourite console.

Re-reading that post of mine there I don't think I made the point clearly or concisely. I guess I was respectfully disagreeing with Oisin's view that single format collecting is a good idea - I don't think it is. You're better off with the top twenty or thirty games for all of the most popular systems as opposed to a mixed bag of 300 games for one machine only in my humble opinion.

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Ah, you appear to be in the wrong forum here, collecting is what we do, heck, its what we are.
Seem to remember another poster here making noises about how ridiculous Retro game collecting is, you're not him are you?
And its probably for the best if you never come to a Beers in my house, if the collection of masses of cool Retro goodness is not your thing, could send you right over the edge!

There's this whole argument about collecting vs. playing going on across YouTube at the minute. To be honest with you, I'm a player first and think that's the way to go in general, but I do collect games as well, but only good ones that are worth my time and money. So if a game is good then I'll "collect" it if you see what I'm getting at.

Having said that, my credentials as a collector are in place - I only buy mint and complete retro games for example and have a collection of about 500 games. Plus I love a good poke in bargain bins and whatnot in search of decent deals.

I hope that clears things up.

johnny_ultimate

I'll collect when the price is right, and I'll always buy with the intention of playing (doesn't always work out, of course).

That said, I'm also a bit cynical the concept of a complete collection. Nice, sure, but I'd rather quality over quantity any day of the week. If you have the money, fair enough. But if you're purposefully buying crap just to own them / bragging rights, then perhaps it's time to step back (unless 'complete' only means a very small amount of bad games, in which case I'm sure you could make an acceptable exception).

Mr Vengeance

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I'll collect when the price is right, and I'll always buy with the intention of playing (doesn't always work out, of course).

That said, I'm also a bit cynical the concept of a complete collection. Nice, sure, but I'd rather quality over quantity any day of the week. If you have the money, fair enough. But if you're purposefully buying crap just to own them / bragging rights, then perhaps it's time to step back (unless 'complete' only means a very small amount of bad games, in which case I'm sure you could make an acceptable exception).

The only format that is possibly worth getting a complete set for is the Neo Geo Pocket Color. Mainly because the line-up is mostly excellent, and a few crap games here and there is no big deal.

I've seen some crazy **** though lately - Finngamer on YouTube - great guy it has to be said - has a complete N64 collection now. I ADORE the N64! However... he bought some awful video games. He even spent $250 for a manual for ClayFighter 63 1/3: Sculptor's Edition just so he could have a "complete" copy :rolleyes: Think what he could have bought for that money elsewhere?

Retr0gamer

Sera says she is bored of general retro discussion. She wants me to start an argument.

Atavan-Halen

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

And the lesson is
Never try to drive a Micra after playing Forza 4, just don't do it!

After playing forza all I wanted to do was dump one of these into my micra :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsx7zXZc_s4

Pyongyang

Mr Vengeance wrote: »

I love a good poke.

Doesn't everyone? :pac:

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv7jvyslRek

Pyongyang

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Sera says she is bored of general retro discussion. She wants me to start an argument.

Milestone games are great! I love Karous! So nerrrrrr!!!

DinoRex

Duck Hunt in HTML 5

http://mattsurabian.com/duckhunt/

CiDeRmAn

I play it via a Nes emu on my HTC Desire, using the touch screen instead of a zapper Gun.

o1s1n

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Sera says she is bored of general retro discussion. She wants me to start an argument.

Final Fantasy X and XIII are absolute crap and anyone who enjoyed them obviously wears womens clothing.

That a good start? :pac:

Oh and just to throw more fuel on the fire in relation to some of the above comments - if you haven't spent a load of money on a crap game just because it's rare and you want the prestige of owning it, you're not a real videogame collector in the true sense of the word.

/grabs popcorn. Sits back.

Retr0gamer

o1s1n wrote: »

Final Fantasy X and XIII are absolute crap and anyone who enjoyed them obviously wears womens clothing.

I'm starting to doubt myself about FFX. I played it around my 'ZOMG FFVII best game ever!' idiotic youthful phase. After watching Spoony's deconstruction of it the plot seems a bit rubbish alright although I liked some bits of it. I will go on record saying that it has one of the best battle systems of all time.

FFXIII isn't great but not complete crap. The story seems interesting, gets a bit crap and then ends with the most retard deus ex machina ever. Lack of a world map isn't a big deal, the FF series since FFVII has been totally linear anyway. The battle system however is wonderful stuff. It's one of the poorer FF games but still got some enjoyment out of it. It's no Legend of Dragoon.

johnny_ultimate

I never got the big hype with FFX either. The post game is interesting (if it wasn't for the game breaking Dark Aeons) but until then it's frustratingly linear and narratively overwrought. And the **** was up with Blitzball?

FFXIII is beyond crap. I stuck with it until it opened up, but by then the crippling apathy it inflicted was too much to bear. Nice graphics, and the battle system is interesting for a few hours (shame it takes them ten hours to trust you with it) but a genuinely poor game. Serious voice acting lulz, though.

o1s1n

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'm starting to doubt myself about FFX. I played it around my 'ZOMG FFVII best game ever!' idiotic youthful phase. After watching Spoony's deconstruction of it the plot seems a bit rubbish alright although I liked some bits of it. I will go on record saying that it has one of the best battle systems of all time.

FFXIII isn't great but not complete crap. The story seems interesting, gets a bit crap and then ends with the most retard deus ex machina ever. Lack of a world map isn't a big deal, the FF series since FFVII has been totally linear anyway. The battle system however is wonderful stuff. It's one of the poorer FF games but still got some enjoyment out of it. It's no Legend of Dragoon.

Ah, the engima that is Retr0. The slightest spark can set him off and yet when you try to troll an arguement out of him he agrees with you.

Attempt number two -

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

johnny_ultimate

End of Evangelion > Akira.

Yeah, I went there.

Still looking forward to Akira in the IFI next week though

o1s1n

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

End of Evangelion > Akira.

Yeah, I went there.

Still looking forward to Akira in the IFI next week though

Oh wow, you really know how to press my buttons.

Akira > anything else created by man.

DinoRex

I got some bad news for you, man.

The Akira live action movie has just been green lit.

The director of the latest Liam Neeson's punching people film 'The Unkown' is directing.

And they want the boring lead from the new Tron movie to star.

o1s1n

DinoRex wrote: »

I got some bad news for you, man.

The Akira live action movie has just been green lit.

The director of the latest Liam Neeson's punching people film 'The Unkown' is directing.

And they want the boring lead from the new Tron movie to star.

DinoRex

There was talk of a live action Evagellion at one point too...

WETA did some rather lovely concept art for it:

http://www.cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/neon_genesis_evangelion_concept_art_from_weta

Retr0gamer

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

End of Evangelion > Akira.

That's way too far. Only an Eva fanboy wouldn't admit that End of Evangelion isn't an absolute mess. It's got one good action scene, the rest is nonsense except the weird part where a schoolboy **** over an unconscious schoolgirl. Highbrow indeed.

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

End of Evangelion > Akira.

I wouldn't even take jellies off you,
you've lost 10,000 points

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy

DinoRex wrote: »

I got some bad news for you, man.

The Akira live action movie has just been green lit.

The director of the latest Liam Neeson's punching people film 'The Unkown' is directing.

And they want the boring lead from the new Tron movie to star.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_y-_P6j5W8

DinoRex

The new Eva animated movies are absolutely stunning by the way, just in case people haven't seen them.

Sure they're cynically milking the cash cow by redoing the whole series again... but they really are genuinely brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4TxIHgKxJw

Retr0gamer

I've been meaning to check them out. For all it's faults Eva was great fun, stunning to look at and really interesting until you realised that the writers hadn't a clue where it was all going and the guy in charge went bat**** insane.

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNvqtKv1bPo

Steve X2

o1s1n wrote: »

And it's set in "New Manhattan"


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o1s1n

Steve SI wrote: »

And it's set in "New Manhattan"


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DinoRex

Did you guys know there's now a National Computer and Communications Museum?

We did a tour of it in the latest edition of my science podcast:

http://scibernia.ie/2011/10/21/scibernia-podcast-episode-18-teeth-brushing-in-space-nanoscience-and-the-first-home-computers/

It's in Galway if anyone is out that way any time soon.

johnny_ultimate

retr0 wrote:

That's way too far. Only an Eva fanboy wouldn't admit that End of Evangelion isn't an absolute mess. It's got one good action scene, the rest is nonsense except the weird part where a schoolboy **** over an unconscious schoolgirl. Highbrow indeed.

ah but end of Eva is a film for everyone but fanboys. Its a direct reaction to silly anime fanboyism - that scene you reference is a very direct attempt to satirise the way the franchise has been twisted by fans and marketing. Goes on to be a reflection on the very nature of artistry, and how people react to art. Its one of the most personal, insightful films Ive ever seen. It pisses me off when its dismissed as pretentious. Watch it again and pay attention. The fans who have written it off are the ones who it directly critiques.

One good action scene? The whole thing is a visual marvel.

2.0 is a masterpiece as well.

Retr0gamer

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

ah but end of Eva is a film for everyone but fanboys. Its a direct reaction to silly anime fanboyism - that scene you reference is a very direct attempt to satirise the way the franchise has been twisted by fans and marketing. Goes on to be a reflection on the very nature of artistry, and how people react to art. Its one of the most personal, insightful films Ive ever seen. It pisses me off when its dismissed as pretentious. Watch it again and pay attention. The fans who have written it off are the ones who it directly critiques.

A visual metaphor for arty farty wankery and the scariest parks of anime fans... hmm.

I think the entire film can be summed up a lot more simply as the biggest troll in anime history.

'You want a proper ending? We'll **** you here's a crazier one!'

It kind of is pretentious and unsatisfying though, the latter is my problem. Still loved it though but trolling Eva fanboys is too much fun :P

On a related note, saw this on wiki adding some evidence to my FFVII was trying to ride on Evandelions coat tails, like everything else post eva

The video game Final Fantasy VII contains Asuka's D Type Equipment from the Neon Genesis Evangelion episode, "Magmadiver". Located at the Gold Saucer casino, this addition was made to the game as an homage to the anime.

Retr0gamer

DinoRex wrote: »

Did you guys know there's now a National Computer and Communications Museum?

We did a tour of it in the latest edition of my science podcast:

http://scibernia.ie/2011/10/21/scibernia-podcast-episode-18-teeth-brushing-in-space-nanoscience-and-the-first-home-computers/

It's in Galway if anyone is out that way any time soon.

Just listening to it now. Can you feel the zombie flesh zx spectrum keyboard?

Retr0gamer

10% offf everything in RAGE tomorrow. I'm missing it because I'm being dragged to Limerick by the better half. If some one can pick me up superman 64 I'll be happy :P

Mr.Saturn

Has the 'Game of the Week' thing died a death already?

Pyongyang

RAGE's idea of a sale:

Pyongyang

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Has the 'Game of the Week' thing died a death already?

Was wondering that myself. Dying to vote for Dick Tracy on the C64.

pdbhp

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Has the 'Game of the Week' thing died a death already?

DinoRex in all his glory seems to have forgotten, maybe he's off trying to be a hipster:pac:

DinoRex

WANT!!!

Pyongyang

Want one of those for my dog, where can you get them!? :eek:

DinoRex

As far as I can tell it was custom made by this guy:

http://smellenjr.deviantart.com/art/Snorlax-Beanbag-chair-191064326

Who comes across as a bit of a dick...

Pyongyang

DinoRex wrote: »

As far as I can tell it was custom made by this guy:

http://smellenjr.deviantart.com/art/Snorlax-Beanbag-chair-191064326

Who comes across as a bit of a dick...

Damn. I see. My dog would have LOVED that for a bed.

DinoRex

Your dog doesn't have a magic flute, does it?

Pyongyang

Sadly not. My dog just has a fat head and stupid, weird feet.

DinoRex

Okay... lets give this new Batman game a go... It took me ten minutes just to get the plastic wrapper off the case so it's been pretty challenging so far!

megaten

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

ah but end of Eva is a film for everyone but fanboys. Its a direct reaction to silly anime fanboyism - that scene you reference is a very direct attempt to satirise the way the franchise has been twisted by fans and marketing. Goes on to be a reflection on the very nature of artistry, and how people react to art. Its one of the most personal, insightful films Ive ever seen. It pisses me off when its dismissed as pretentious. Watch it again and pay attention. The fans who have written it off are the ones who it directly critiques.

One good action scene? The whole thing is a visual marvel.

2.0 is a masterpiece as well.

I've heard similar things. Apparently EoE is a big **** you to fans who complained they didn't do the end to the tv show 'properly'