Son Of General Retro Discussion

DinoRex

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Andrew76

pdbhp wrote: »

Great news 'Tallafornia' is back on telly tonight so if any of you guys wanna watch a documentary on me tune in.
I swear that it's a well written and thought out piece of celluloid art:pac:

Was wondering where you had gotten to. Must be busy recording episodes? :pac:

pdbhp

Andrew76 wrote: »

Was wondering where you had gotten to. Must be busy recording episodes? :pac:

The hectic world of TV, cut throat so it is!:P

CiDeRmAn

He's the oil boy for the guy with the abs!


And as for a good representation of videogames in movies, there's always that bit from Ghost Recon that showed the "Allies" killing a reporter and the group he was imbedded in over in Iraq... Oh wait, that was real life, sorry, they seem so alike!

pdbhp

Grandmas Boy has lots of games in it including the greatest 'Dance Dance Revolution' player ever.!

johnny_ultimate

Ugh, don't even get me started on videogames in films. You'd swear filmmakers had never actually sat down and played a game Always get a chuckle out of the blatant Gears of War product placement in Die Hard 4.0, though.

The recent Another Earth had two characters emotionally bond over a vigorous round or ten of Wii boxing. They looked like idiots, but I guess everyone looks like idiots playing Wii boxing? So that's pretty accurate in a weird sort of way.

Scarlett Johansson walking through an arcade in Lost in Translation is also the rare example of gamers in their natural habitat. Taiko no Tatsujin and Guitar Freaks ahoy!

pdbhp

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

He's the oil boy for the all the guys with the abs!

FYP!


Gotta love those abs:rolleyes:

Mr.Saturn

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Ugh, don't even get me started on videogames in films. You'd swear filmmakers had never actually sat down and played a game

It'll forever depress me how I'll be enjoying a movie to a point, and then there'll be this one videogame scene, where two or more characters seem to treat the control pad like it's a reckless, intense game of Simon Says (the electronic one, not the mean one with mud-eating), regardless of genre and then the screen'll flash Mario Tennis or some other suchery. Boof! Fourth wall shattered, and I go and play some o'them vidjagames instead, as not even Brunel could suspend that amount of disbelief.

o1s1n

Gaming is one of the last things which film just handles so badly it hurts.

Mr.Saturn is spot on about the 4th wall. Whenever I see that kind of thing it instantly ruins it for me. It's so utterly obvious to anyone who plays games (which is most people nowadays within my generation) it hurts.

The amount of times I've seen people holding a controller and playing a game not for that console (recently I saw someone playing a ps2 Mortal Kombat game with an n64 pad cant remember what show it was)

Or no game in a handheld console...or people tossing the control pad around like a lunatic..ah, it's enraging.

johnny_ultimate

Always find it funny when films try to make their own games as well. They barely ever resemble anything remotely playable.

Still have nightmares about Gamer. Christ on a bike.

CiDeRmAn

Let non one forget Doom, and what a tragic fup up that was.
One would have imagined someone would have had to sit down and give the game a try, rather than what they actually did, which was borrow John Carmacks copy books from high school and trace over the doodles in the margins!

Jack burton

Have yet to see postal but I'd like to see how that on faired off, since it had such a rich story to draw on.

Mortal Kombat, even though its bad but not terrible, was the best attempt that comes to mind.

And also this was better than the entire series that came after it, still really like that series though Raiden episode was brilliant! I really wish they went with this take on the MK universe but god knows that something actually good that's different can be produced!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9YUeTTaVqo

Kinski

DinoRex wrote: »

In general the games are played pretty normally in The Wizard if I remember correctly... well... except that it makes it look like the Power Glove is actually of some use.

Anytime someone mentions The Wizard, I like to point out that the girl in it grew up to be the lovely Jenny Lewis.

Pyongyang

Kinski wrote: »

Anytime someone mentions The Wizard, I like to point out that the girl in it grew up to be the lovely Jenny Lewis.

Ditto. She of the wonderful Rilo Kiley fame too.

johnny_ultimate

I'd listen to Rilo Kiley just to hear the soothing tones of Ms. Lewis.

Luckily they're awesome too!

Atavan-Halen

She's a bit of an alright.

Retr0gamer

He touched my breast!

Sparks43

DinoRex wrote: »

The website still needs a bit of work but here's the first podcast we recorded:



http://arcadeandretro.com/?p=6

Ok who is impersonating me in the comments:eek:

Myrddin

Sparks43 wrote: »

Ok who is impersonating me in the comments:eek:

I see a few A&R members have been implicated. There be a jokester amongst us.

This one I must admit was oddly funny, it's like as if he knows Retr0 personally

just two naked guys talking about their favourite game

Steve X2

Well that's the iPad 2 Jailbroken and Blutrol installed and now every game supports the iCade.

Happy days

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pdbhp

Downloaded RE Revelations demo earlier, plays great, looks great shows what a powerful piece of tech the 3DS is.
Must work harder to get monies to buy some 3DS games and save some for Vita

CiDeRmAn

Edge gave it a 6/10....
Any other reviews out there?

CiDeRmAn

Woo Hoo!
Ipad 2, Absinthe for Windows turned up first thing this morning.
No lie in for me, dl'd it and got stuck in.
After much nervous waiting Cydia was installed on the desktop of the ipad2!
Next, no sign of any apps there in Cydia...
Realised I had to let it update...
Done.
Now, the important apps!

Imame4all!!

Done!

Happy days, now playing Dodonpachi, Image Fight, some Galaga and Asteroids, via the iCade!
Because it's the ipad 2 everything is in full speed as well!

It's all good baby, it's all good!

And for future would be imame-nauts, here's some new products from the iCade peeps that you might like,


and the link

Steve X2

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Woo Hoo!
Ipad 2, Absinthe for Windows turned up first thing this morning.
No lie in for me, dl'd it and got stuck in.
After much nervous waiting Cydia was installed on the desktop of the ipad2!
Next, no sign of any apps there in Cydia...
Realised I had to let it update...
Done.
Now, the important apps!

Imame4all!!

Done!

Happy days, now playing Dodonpachi, Image Fight, some Galaga and Asteroids, via the iCade!
Because it's the ipad 2 everything is in full speed as well!

It's all good baby, it's all good!

And for future would be imame-nauts, here's some new products from the iCade peeps that you might like,


and the link

Don't forget to change the root password once you've jailbroken.
It's very easy to hack a jailbroken iOS device if the root isnt changed.

I jailbroke my iPad 2 yesterday with the CLI command interface the dev team released and the first thing i did was change the password. I got hacked before and believe it or not there are iOS viruses out there, I know because I got one last year and it ran the battery down in a few hours on my old iPad 1 until I tracked it down.


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Pyongyang

Is the iCade responsive enough for the Cave shooters? Any lag?

I fear I may need to upgrade to an iPad 3 in March if Darius Burst: Second Prologue is iPad 2 only.

Steve X2

Pyongyang wrote: »

Is the iCade responsive enough for the Cave shooters? Any lag?

I fear I may need to upgrade to an iPad 3 in March if Darius Burst: Second Prologue is iPad 2 only.

You'll need to install Blutrol to get the Cave shooters working on the iCade. I don't think they officially support the iCade yet.


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CiDeRmAn

I was just about to say the same.
I see some people are taking the Icade and replacing the buttons with their chosen favourites.
I'm happy with mine but they are quite noisy and have a lot of travel.

The Cave and other shooters would be ideal in the Icade.
Not sure how appealing the version with the cab style cowl is, but it is more portable that way.
The little PSP style case for the Iphone looks quite nifty.
I could see a current gen iPod touch slotting in there nicely, and staying there!

What we really need is an updated Mame verison.
The edition that's used is quite old, 10 years, and so it is not playing many of the later titles, although there seems to be some work going into getting the later Metal Slugs and the like running with some private coding.

The Mame people take umbridge with iMame4All because they find it to be old and outdated and principally for playing old arcade games while they are busy disappearing up their own ass and saying it's all about the preserving of machines and emulating the hardware.

I would say, as soon as an official Mame app comes onto the scene again I will be restoring the ipad to non-JB status.

johnny_ultimate

Saw this on the shelf (where it stayed) down the local video house t'other day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy-LMbfTAGQ

Whatever about Tekken, Street Fighter or even Dead or Alive, I'm more than a little perplexed about who the perceived target audience for this is :pac:

johnny_ultimate

And this is amazing. A Persona 4 figure that comes with an image of the 'PERSONA!' summoning animation on a separate stand:

CiDeRmAn

Hmm, not really my thing tbh.
I do remember a lovely dragon thingy from FFVIII that Gamesworld, as they were back then, before the dark times, before the Empire, and it was beautiful, cost a small fortune if I remember correctly...

Oh and one for Dinorex...

Doge

Bit of a random post!

Some interesting Sega Master System Unlicensed game dumps here, including some mario clones!

http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13291

There's attachments in the 2nd post.

Also, link 3 at the bottom of this page might be worth checking out also!

http://www.smspower.org/db/super_boy_4-sms-kr.shtml

weeder

collection needs downsizing, whats the going rate for a nes and "track and field II" with a ripped label.

Pyongyang

Glad I pre-ordered Catherine limited edition now. It was £40.99 at the time on Amazon. It's now £47.99.

Anywhere doing it cheaper?

johnny_ultimate

Pfft, the real special edition comes with boxer shorts and a pillow case

That said, I was almost tempted to re-pre-order just to get Vincent's t-shirt (as opposed to Catherine's 'empty' shirt that came with the US one) before sense slapped me in the face.

Pyongyang

Looks like all the main outlets are charging between £44.99 and £49.99. I wonder why it increased in price already? Even Shopto and Play increased their prices as at one point Shopto was marginally cheaper (by a matter of pence) than Amazon.

Low print run?

Other than the 'pillow' and shirt there isn't any other issues is there? Looks like a fun game anyway, glad I pre-ordered it.

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Oh and one for Dinorex...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8gY0IT0CuA

Retr0gamer

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Edge gave it a 6/10....

Must be amazing!

On a games related note I finished Racing the Beam at the weekend. I would recommend it to anyone with an interest in videogames. It's really well written so even when it gets techy it explains everything really well. It was fascinating how the machine worked with only 128 bytes of memory and all the hoops porgrammers had to jump through to get some simple stuff like more than 2 sprites on screen. I thought it was amazing how Rob Fulop managed to make the neutral zone graphics in Yars Revenge, very Matrix

James Howlett

So someone posted a while ago that Consolevania was now available on itunes. I downloaded an episode onto my phone to sample it and decided to watch it on the bus to work this morning.

All was going well for the first 10 minutes until the "news" section which featured a topless girl dancing around. I chuckled but then the video went on... and on... for 30 seconds... 30 seconds is a long time in a public place like a bus. I'm pretty sure the people sitting on the seats above and behind me have now marked me as a pervert who watches porn on the bus and now wonder how even more distusting I am when I'm at home.

... so anyway whoever posted that information about consolevania... nice one:cool:

Steve X2

So I just setup SoulCalibur on my iPad 2 so it uses the iCade for controls and its actually really good. It's no candy cab with a nice 29" arcade monitor and full arcade controls but its a million times better than the on-screen controls of the iPad.

SoulCalibur doesn't officially support the iCade yet but with a little jailbreak and a little Cydia app called Blutrol you've got iCade support on any game that uses on-screen controls.

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Pyongyang

G-Rev are live on UStream right now, announcing Under Defeat HD stuff.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/10193978

Retr0gamer

Here's a long but fascinating article/interview with Agness Kaku. She is a translator that worked on videogames, most notably Metal Gear Solid 2 which she famously said was the worst written thing she has ever read. The interview deals mostly with MGS 2 but there's some other interesting stuff about other projects she worked on like D2, Ring of Red and Katamari. She seems really intelligent and on the ball. Also I like one of the things she pointed out about how the writing in games is so bad that stuff that is merely acceptible is held up as being great writing *cough Heavy Rain, FFVII*.

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/metalgear/agnesskaku.htm

Mr.Saturn

There's one thing that irked me to no end about Heavy Rain. It's a pretty basic thriller/detective adventure, and as such, its got traditions to offer loose adherence to. Most prominently in this case, the big reveal of the killer. In any competent thriller, this would be a case of sight half-seen, where it plays off what we've seen thus far in the story, or what we think we've seen, and works out how the killer/big bad has been hiding in plain sight.

Then, come the Clock Shop segment, which is irritating to play through properly, and is then promptly voided by the ending as being revealed to never have actually transpired in the way you played it.

It stunk off bad, lazy writing that was conjured up in a hurry to meet a deadline. Which is fine, it happens, but then to have it marketed as the evolution of the medium is a bit much. I can name three or four titles off the top of my head that have done more to progress the notion of gaming as interactive storytelling. Not to mention, on about a 20th of Heavy Rain's budget at most.

Retr0gamer

Did anyone see the price for Last Story on the Wii?

£87... yes 87 sterling. For a steel case artbook and soundtrack CD. I hope there's a standard edition.

DinoRex

The best writing in a video game are the little short stories you collect in Lost Odyssey. They don't directly affect the game but do add a lot to the background of the main character. And some of the stories are utterly heartbreaking.

Retr0gamer

I was disappointed that the main storyline wasn't anywhere near as good as the small short stories in Lost Odyssey.

Dr Bob

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

There's one thing that irked me to no end about Heavy Rain. It's a pretty basic thriller/detective adventure, and as such, its got traditions to offer loose adherence to. Most prominently in this case, the big reveal of the killer. In any competent thriller, this would be a case of sight half-seen, where it plays off what we've seen thus far in the story, or what we think we've seen, and works out how the killer/big bad has been hiding in plain sight.

Then, come the Clock Shop segment, which is irritating to play through properly, and is then promptly voided by the ending as being revealed to never have actually transpired in the way you played it.

It stunk off bad, lazy writing that was conjured up in a hurry to meet a deadline. Which is fine, it happens, but then to have it marketed as the evolution of the medium is a bit much. I can name three or four titles off the top of my head that have done more to progress the notion of gaming as interactive storytelling. Not to mention, on about a 20th of Heavy Rain's budget at most.

I always meant to try give heavy rain a try as I was a sucker for that crowds older game "Nomad soul" .In fairness I may have liked it a lot solely for the amount of

: 4th wall breaking

going on in the storyline (also it gets some minus points for having an unskippable 90's era David Bowie "performance" within the game)

DinoRex

Nomad Soul was an odd one. It tried to do so many different game styles but wasn't very good at any of them.

I did like the concept and feel of it though.

What annoyed me about Heavy Rain was

all the news reports at the end talk about the arrest of the Origami Killer when he clearly died in my ending.

Retr0gamer

It's worth a go but don't expect the madness from David Cages earlier works.

I kind of think his writing a bit stilted, like it's obviously from some one that isn't a native english speaker. It's exasperated in Heavy Rain since he also uses actors that are quite clearly not native english speakers and have weird accents when they are supposed to be american.

Atavan-Halen

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I was disappointed that the main storyline wasn't anywhere near as good as the small short stories in Lost Odyssey.

I got scared off by the 4 discs so never got around to playing it.

Also thanks for using spoiler tags! I want to try out heavy rain for myself soon.

DinoRex

Yeah. Only finished Heavy Rain last week so spent about 2 years avoiding spoilers.

Did anyone get the DLC for it? It sounds like it might be a bit short from reading the description.