Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v2.0

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Lucinda hasn't an effin clue.

JonathanAnon

Spontaneous combustion ... wtf ?????

JonathanAnon

Feck off boggers, I'm not buying yer sausages..

take everything

Wonder how many extra topics Vinny will try shoehorn into the remaining 5 minutes.

irishh_bob

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Lucinda hasn't an effin clue.

doesnt matter when you have her level of born to rule self regard

JonathanAnon

oh spit it out ffs, Joan...

JonathanAnon

I love the way Martin King is completely thrown off by that stupid ad on just before him... lol

RayM

Oh_Noes wrote: »

It's hard to believe Lucinda Creighton is only 30. Her make up/dress sense is more like a woman in her 50s.

It must be a Fine Gael thing. Leo Varadkar is only 32, but looks at least 45.

irishh_bob

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I love the way Martin King is completely thrown off by that stupid ad on just before him... lol

i thought king was on 1st :eek:

Good loser

irishh_bob wrote: »

im with joe and the shinners on defaulting but the respectable establishment types in FG and elements of the media would rather burn the 1916 proclamation than tell thier brussells betters to stick thier bailout and single currency , personally i believe that regardless of whether we return to a devalued punt or surrender to economic and polictical unity , we are facing a reduced standard of living , better to be in control of our own destiny even it means enduring a decade of hardship

I'm not. The Shinners are no longer for defaulting -they've grown up!

We're already in for 'a decade of hardship' as things stand. Make that two

or three if we leave euro.

Vince was snookered at least three times tonight - to shine he needs the

3:1 (panel) ratio in his favour.

irishh_bob

Good loser wrote: »

I'm not. The Shinners are no longer for defaulting -they've grown up!

We're already in for 'a decade of hardship' as things stand. Make that two

or three if we leave euro.

Vince was snookered at least three times tonight - to shine he needs the

3:1 (panel) ratio in his favour.

if we leave the euro , we can burn the bond holders ( ones that are yet to be paid ) and more importantly, retain our corporation tax , in a fully integrated europe , thats one of the 1st things that would go , a devalued punt would boost our competitiveness , like the corpo tax , this would endear us further to american multinationals , our biggest trading partners are the uk and the usa , we never needed the euro like other european countrys did , the quicker we get out of this federalists autocratic nightmare , the better

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VB dealing with the presidency!

Corsendonk

Coppinger was long term sick from her state paided job as a teacher last year while she showed up at every Fingal Council event and Socialist party protest. Double standards.

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Corsendonk wrote: »

Coppinger was long term sick from her state paided job as a teacher last year while she showed up at every Fingal Council event and Socialist party protest. Double standards.

Could you not leave this crap out?

So VB saying there's going to be 3 presidential debates on RTE in the space of as many days? Joke.

Corsendonk

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Could you not leave this crap out?

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No

JonathanAnon

A load of crap from Finlay there as usual... Michael D hasnt been leading any of the polls that I've seen... Side swipe at Gay Mitchell trying to get a start to his campaign.. fk off, I'd say he's glad he didnt win the Labour ticket all the same, he would have probably had to tell us what Barnardo's pay him....

ballsymchugh

looking for dirt on michael d? all she can come up with is that he was missing as a champion of the left when she was marching about?
the best they could probably do is that he called michael graham a wanker on newstalk. language unbecoming a president maybe, but still hilarious at the time.

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ballsymchugh wrote: »

looking for dirt on michael d? all she can come up with is that he was missing as a champion of the left when she was marching about?
the best they could probably do is that he called michael graham a wanker on newstalk. language unbecoming a president maybe, but still hilarious at the time.

Some on the net have mentioned this wanker comment. That will only help his campaign!

ballsymchugh

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Some on the net have mentioned this wanker comment. That will only help his campaign!

anything that shuts michael graham up would help him, even if he mugged him in a queue in supermacs later that night!

bluefinger

ballsymchugh wrote: »

looking for dirt on michael d? all she can come up with is that he was missing as a champion of the left when she was marching about?
the best they could probably do is that he called michael graham a wanker on newstalk. language unbecoming a president maybe, but still hilarious at the time.

i didn't know that. he might get my vote now.

ruth coppinger is so obviously winging this it's embarrassing.

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I'm not sure what planet McAleese's supporter is on. She said earlier the system of getting people onto the ballot is working just fine and then defends what McAleese has done in the last 14 years. She has done nothing because she is limited by the constitution.

No1J

Poor panel tonight suffering from Mondayitis.

mossyc123

Martin King must be on compassionate leave...don't think he could handle those piss-take wacky weatherman Meteor ads anymore :pac:

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VB said RTE are holding two debates on Wednesday - the first is on the News at One and the second is on a Prime Time special that night.

This is followed by a LLS debate on Friday.

What is RTE playing at?

pixelburp

I haven't watched Vincent Browne in some time as I was finding his continuous cynicism & repeated subject of the economy predictable and depressing. So I tuned in tonight just to see what was said about the Presidency.

I have to applaud the man though; despite the show tonight being nominally about the presidency, Browne still managed to railroad the debate into that about the economic crisis - a tactic most evident when he didn't like the responses from the guests. How dare they appeal to my better nature & national optimism - let's trot out the "omg, we're soooo fooked" line.

Sorry Browne, but you gotta lighten up. It's just a figurehead election, but damnit we can't just close shop because it gets tough.

Jess16

pixelburp wrote: »

I haven't watched Vincent Browne in some time as I was finding his continuous cynicism & repeated subject of the economy predictable and depressing. So I tuned in tonight just to see what was said about the Presidency.

I have to applaud the man though; despite the show tonight being nominally about the presidency, Browne still managed to railroad the debate into that about the economic crisis - a tactic most evident when he didn't like the responses from the guests. How dare they appeal to my better nature & national optimism - let's trot out the "omg, we're soooo fooked" line.

Sorry Browne, but you gotta lighten up. It's just a figurehead election, but damnit we can't just close shop because it gets tough.

That's an interesting stance because it's partially Vincent's reticence to buy into media driven agendas that I like about him. Though his tendency to very negatively steer every conversation back to economic catastrophe is becoming increasingly grating.

That said, negative independent thought is still preferable to Pat's noddding dog approach over on The Frontline

pixelburp

Jess16 wrote: »

That's an interesting stance because it's partially Vincent's reticence to buy into media driven agendas that I like about him. Though his tendency to very negatively steer every conversation back to economic catastrophe is becoming increasingly grating.

That said, negative independent thought is still preferable to Pat's noddding dog approach over on The Frontline

Well I think you've just proven my point by calling Browne's attitude "negative independent thought". It's inherently negative & it has been such a straight, continuous stream of negativity that it's gone into the realm of VB being a snide, dismissive host who can't even debate the subjects he's supposed to be chairing. Instead, he goes back to formula & performs a simple case of Reductio ad absurdum, by reducing all subjects to being compared against apparent economic doom.

I see this attitude of Browne as no better than those internet debaters who bring up the nazis as a trump card in discussions: it's not clever, it's frequently irrelevant & just makes you look like a fool when you do it.

Jess16

pixelburp wrote: »

Well I think you've just proven my point by calling Browne's attitude "negative independent thought". It's inherently negative & it has been such a straight, continuous stream of negativity that it's gone into the realm of VB being a snide, dismissive host who can't even debate the subjects he's supposed to be chairing. Instead, he goes back to formula & performs a simple case of Reductio ad absurdum, by reducing all subjects to being compared against apparent economic doom

I wasnt trying to disprove it, I was agreeing with you. Though I think you're undermining your previously valid points now by turning them into anti-Vincent Browne tirades

pixelburp

Jess16 wrote: »

I wasnt trying to disprove it, I was agreeing with you. Though I think you're undermining your previously valid points now by turning them into anti-Vincent Browne tirades

I know you're agreeing with me, and I think you're mistaking my expanding of the same point as a tirade; criticising Browne's increasingly one-note performances hardly qualifies as being "Anti Vincent Browne" - I think that's a bit of an over-reaction.
I'm speaking as a lapsed VB'er, who stopped watching due to what seemed to be an increasing broken record. I tune in tonight I see this habit is still in force; That frustrates me as Browne's the best current affairs chair we have on TV, but he's clearly fixated on this idea of the global economy being king to all other matters at the moment.

Jess16

pixelburp wrote: »

I know you're agreeing with me, and I think you're mistaking my expanding of the same point as a tirade; criticising Browne's increasingly one-note performances hardly qualifies as being "Anti Vincent Browne" - I think that's a bit of an over-reaction.

You're not expanding the same point, you're just regurgitating what you've already said. Which is pointless and ironic considering your main gripe with Browne is your likening of him to a 'broken record'.

Whereas I agree with you in theory, I also feel that if Browne were to deviate from discussing economic issues he'd be maligned for not giving precedence to our country's most pressing concerns. In which case, he can't do right for doing wrong.