Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v2.0

washman3

Jess16 wrote: »

Nama was established by crooks to help crooks.
The more I watch VB, the more I fantasise of emigrating

Exactly. if ever we needed proof that NAMA is a scam we can now see the pieces of the jigsaw falling into place. The scum that frequented the Galway tent will NOT be pursued for what they owe. Rather NAMA will only seek to recoup what they paid for the loans. Billy the taxpayer and his children/grandchildren/great grandchildren will foot the bill for the rest.
The scum will continue to live life in luxury,in their helicopters and chauffeur driven Maybachs and their gated mansions(which are now in Mrs. Scum's names)while also being paid €200k plus per year by NAMA. This is the biggest injustice this banana republic has ever seen. These scum need to be left without an "arse to their pants" and confined to a 1 bed shoebox apartment for the rest of their lives.
Contrast this with the treatment of Mick Wallace who i admire as 1 of the better guys,lost his case today but spoke outside the court and again tonight with honesty and dignity. Mick has the assets to cover his losses.
He will most likely be pursued for these assets. His loans are with foreign banks,which mean he is not protected by Nama.
Mick was not one of the Galway Tent cronies and was dispised because of this. in a previous interview Mick stated that as a young builder/developer he was advised to "cut his hair,buy a suit and join Fianna Fail". Without doing this he was told he did'nt stand a chance in the property game.
At the time Nama was formed David McWilliams told us "we must fight this scam at every turn" How right he was.!!

delaad

JonathanAnon wrote: »

She got Dunphy's back up on Sunday by tweeting something about him as well.. She'd want to shut down her twitter account or she'll never get asked to appear on a panel show again..

Good luck to her: she's only telling the truth on both accounts, regardless of what she said about Dunphy.

Skid

Cassie has been back on the Twidder tonight ...

Thanks for that Vincent...anyone need to know anything about NAMA just holler

So you know where to go ...

Plautus

Vincent, as it happens, has written this, which is a useful corrective to a lot of the guff the Presidential candidates are coming out with:

http://politico.ie/irish-politics/7918-aras-election-2011-limits-on-presidents-role.html

The only thing he's a bit askew on is whether or not a President can know that a Taoiseach has lost the confidence of a majority of the Dail. Er, a loss of a no-confidence vote or failure to pass a money bill would seem to positively test for that. It was the exact situation Hillery was faced with in 1982 when Garret couldn't pass the budget and asked for a dissolution and all the gang in FF tried phoning up the Aras urging him not to grant a dissolution.

Plautus

Cassie made the mistake of staying logged into twitter after bringing Vinny home with her last night:

Who needs toilet roll when you have hands

JonathanAnon

Jim Power... :(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Since when has he had the solutions to any problem???? Can I just remind people of the "power" of this man's brain... Jim on 9/11 for example..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6xS-TkZI90

irishh_bob

a million bucks says vincent will bang on about taxes being higher in sweeden while completley ignoring the fact that low earners in scandanavia and germany pay far more tax than thier counterparts in ireland

Lady Chatterton

Jonny, where are you? Your favourite Economist of all time is on with Vinny B

JonathanAnon

This discussion is ridiculous... It completely ignores the fact that our expenditure is still at what it was during the height of the boom (~50 Billion), yet our Exchequer intake is back at 2001 levels at 32 Billion or so... if you increases taxes you will just push more people on to the dole and increase Exchequer expenditure..

ascanbe

Hahaha; it's Jim Power!!

washman3

Completely baffled that Jim "soft landing" Power still manages to get airtime. Truely amazing.!! this guy is a complete phoney. must have shares in RTE. one of the top government cheerleaders during the farce that was the "Celtic Tiger". Almost weekly, urged people to get on the property ladder or get left behind forever. Think he has a neck like a jockeys ######

Plautus

Jim executing the 'blame the other economist in the room' gambit there.

The cheek, referring to his previous record! 'In 2001 I was the only one advising against the lowering of taxes.'

And what about stamp duty in 2007, eh Jim?

ascanbe

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Jim Power... :(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Since when has he had the solutions to any problem???? Can I just remind people of the "power" of this man's brain... Jim on 9/11 for example..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6xS-TkZI90

In fairness, that's not his area of expertise.
He's an 'economist'; not a real one, of course
Anyway, check out his brilliant work on the crash of the Celtic Tiger/property sector.
Apparantly everything is fine and we're now enjoying a soft-landing and the boom is about to get boomier again.

irishh_bob

always love hearing from theese poverty industry quango queens , professional pontificators and hand ringers

ascanbe

washman3 wrote: »

Completely baffled that Jim "soft landing" Power still manages to get airtime. Truely amazing.!! this guy is a complete phoney. must have shares in RTE. one of the top government cheerleaders during the farce that was the "Celtic Tiger". Almost weekly, urged people to get on the property ladder or get left behind forever. Think he has a neck like a jockeys ######

Yeah, you'd expect that of RTE.
But this is TV3; why do they have him on?
And, seen as they do, why doesn't Browne hammer him on his record?

JonathanAnon

They should tie those two fools at the end together and throw them over the edge of a cliff..

WalterMitty

Taft is a disingenous spoofer. Pity Jim Power isnt sharp and quick enough to counter him. Gurdiev would expose him every day of the week.

Plautus

This five-euro-a-week-to-feed-the-kids claim smells suspiciously of bull****.

irishh_bob

WalterMitty wrote: »

Taft is a disingenous spoofer. Pity Jim Power isnt sharp and quick enough to counter him. Gurdiev would expose him every day of the week.

can never underatand how often power is invited to appear on tv and radio , hes a very poor performer , geekish with little charm

ascanbe

washman3 wrote: »

Exactly. if ever we needed proof that NAMA is a scam we can now see the pieces of the jigsaw falling into place. The scum that frequented the Galway tent will NOT be pursued for what they owe. Rather NAMA will only seek to recoup what they paid for the loans. Billy the taxpayer and his children/grandchildren/great grandchildren will foot the bill for the rest.
The scum will continue to live life in luxury,in their helicopters and chauffeur driven Maybachs and their gated mansions(which are now in Mrs. Scum's names)while also being paid €200k plus per year by NAMA. This is the biggest injustice this banana republic has ever seen. These scum need to be left without an "arse to their pants" and confined to a 1 bed shoebox apartment for the rest of their lives.
Contrast this with the treatment of Mick Wallace who i admire as 1 of the better guys,lost his case today but spoke outside the court and again tonight with honesty and dignity. Mick has the assets to cover his losses.
He will most likely be pursued for these assets. His loans are with foreign banks,which mean he is not protected by Nama.
Mick was not one of the Galway Tent cronies and was dispised because of this. in a previous interview Mick stated that as a young builder/developer he was advised to "cut his hair,buy a suit and join Fianna Fail". Without doing this he was told he did'nt stand a chance in the property game.
At the time Nama was formed David McWilliams told us "we must fight this scam at every turn" How right he was.!!

You also had this open letter to the Irish Times signed by 46 economists, including many of those with some kind of record of knowing what they're talking about, sent at a time when those in power would listen/talk to no-one and, along with much of the media, kept parroting that NAMA was 'the only game in town.'..

http://smarttaxes.org/2009/08/26/46-economists-explain-why-nama-is-wrong-in-todays-irish-times/

You also had Peter Mathews in a Dail commitee explaining why it would be a disaster and submitting an alternative, that was completely ignored; they naturally went with the plans of geniuses like Frank Fahey..
Worth watching this clip just to see Mathews destroy him, though.
Of course Mathews is now in Governments; hopefully his voice is heard and he can make a real difference.

Skid

Vincent trying to be smart, telling Jim Power that to 'decimate' means cutting by 90% ...

No, in a literal sense it means cutting by 10%, Vincent.

JonathanAnon

irishh_bob wrote: »

can never underatand how often power is invited to appear on tv and radio , hes a very poor performer , geekish with little charm

+ he gets everything wrong..

WalterMitty

The economic illiteracy of these lefty types is amazing. By her logic we should be borrowing more to give to people to spend indomesticeconomy.
Likewise Taft saying Swedish childcare only costs 150euro a month completely ignoring the true cost as it is government subsidised.
Our whole foreign direct investment economicmodel means we cant lash up taxes on businesses.

ascanbe

Skid wrote: »

Vincent trying to be smart, telling Jim Power that to 'decimate' means cutting by 90% ...

No, in a literal sense it means cutting by 10%, Vincent.

Guarantee you Jim Power doesn't know the literal meaning either, though.
It's rarely used in the literal sense, anymore.
It's always taken to mean 'all but destroy' when in reality, as you wrote, it means to destroy/kill 1 in 10.

take everything

Is Cassie on tonight i wonder.

JonathanAnon

They are talking about Peter Sutherland (Goldman Sachs) who suggested at the weekend that the only way out of our economic problems is through further austerity, while himself pulling a big pension from the state as well as being paid for his private work....

Skid

After her stellar performance on NAMA last night, presumably Cassie is coming next to dazzle us with her views on how to generate growth in the economy?

enfant terrible

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Jim Power... :(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Since when has he had the solutions to any problem???? Can I just remind people of the "power" of this man's brain... Jim on 9/11 for example..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6xS-TkZI90

What was wrong with what he said here?

ascanbe

JonathanAnon wrote: »

They are talking about Peter Sutherland (Goldman Sachs) who suggested at the weekend that the only way out of our economic problems is through further austerity, while himself pulling a big pension from the state as well as being paid for his private work....

Along with his general role, through Goldman Sachs, as you alluded to, in creating the general sh*t-storm worldwide and his role in 'advising' the last government in the run-up to the 'blanket-bank guarantee' which, of course, guaranteed that his ilk made out like bandits.

Plautus

The moronic, uncritical repetition of the 'war on terror' conceit? The horrible, horrible 'West versus Islam' self-fulfilling prophecy he advises? He said this in the last number of weeks, you remember. Count on Jim to be out of the loop though: this rhetoric has been past its sell-by-date since Bush lost the Congress in 2006.