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el diablo

Ridiculous storyline, the chap with no hands getting a girl, twenty years his junior (or any girl) pregnant. Last time I saw this show she was beating the crap out of her husband with a snooker cue.

iguana

el diablo wrote: »

Ridiculous storyline, the chap with no hands getting a girl, twenty years his junior (or any girl) pregnant. Last time I saw this show she was beating the crap out of her husband with a snooker cue.

David quite clearly has hands and he has, I'm assuming, a penis and testicles and it is they, rather than the arms, which are the part of the male body necessary for impregnation.

He is also a lawyer who specialises in foreign aid work, meaning he is intelligent and compassionate, qualities which a lot of women find very appealing.

Tinkerbell4484

Right so...lucy knew dermots social worker emily

vumpireofkid

Yeah...is she one of Lucy's old unseen flatmates? or was she Lucy's social worker before when she was blind or something?

jos28

Maybe Lucy has a clatter of kids that she has had fostered

el diablo

iguana wrote: »

He is also a lawyer who specialises in foreign aid work, meaning he is intelligent and compassionate, qualities which a lot of women find very appealing.

Not sure how appealing the nappy changing would be though.:)

Lady Chatterton

jos28 wrote: »

Maybe Lucy has a clatter of kids that she has had fostered

Maybe her mother placed her in care after her relationship with Harry Molloy ended :eek:

silversky

Lucy probably was a foster child, ran away from home, was homeless for a while, then met Dolores, made up a pack of lies, became obsessed with Dolores, tries to have a baby with Wayne etc.....

Even though she looks too old to be a foster child when Emma would have been working as a social worker. So I probably have it totally wrong.

Unless she had a child and put it up for foster care?

cloptrop

David the idiot just expected suzanne to welcome him back with

"open arms"

And Lucy was in state care at one stage , maybe she is something to do with Cleo , an old friend or something .

I see the new chef got a line tonight , "goodnight"

Cant wait till tomorrow to see what position Dermot let Kelly get in , sounds promising.

Fittle

iguana wrote: »

He is also a lawyer who specialises in foreign aid work, meaning he is intelligent and compassionate, qualities which a lot of women find very appealing.

While I agree with the general PC element of your post, I think the above statement is pushing it.

cloptrop

Fittle wrote: »

While I agree with the general PC element of your post, I think the above statement is pushing it.

Would you have a baby with David?

Lady Chatterton

Fittle wrote: »

While I agree with the general PC element of your post, I think the above statement is pushing it.

I think it is fair to say that a lot of women are attracted to men who are successful but also have a social conscience

if emily knows a social worker mmmmmm he may be mad or fostered as a child

as for david hes only back cas he got fired and nowhere else to go

Lady Chatterton

Deleted User wrote: »

as for david hes only back cas he got fired and nowhere else to go

I agree, at least he was honest enough to admit it. I reckon Damien and Suzanne will get back together. I can see him driving her to the hospital when she goes into labour and being there for the birth etc....

iguana

Fittle wrote: »

While I agree with the general PC element of your post, I think the above statement is pushing it.

There is nothing PC about my post. David does have hands, a penis and testicles, that's a fact not political correctness. And you really don't think that most adult women can see past a man's disability if he has a good personality and an interesting, extremely worthwhile job? And if you really think that you'd be wrong as Mat Fraser has spoken openly about his (considerable sounding) sex life when he was touring with various rock, punk and metal bands in the 80s and 90s, up until he met his wife in 1995.

As for the character, the fact that he has been more or less ignoring Suzanne since he found out about her pregnancy is a different thing. I think a lot of women would find that a lot harder to look past than his disability.

cloptrop

iguana wrote: »

As for the character, the fact that he has been more or less ignoring Suzanne since he found out about her pregnancy is a different thing. I think a lot of women would find that a lot harder to look past than his disability.

Wait a minute didnt you say he was compassionate?

iguana

cloptrop wrote: »

Wait a minute didnt you say he was compassionate?

I said that someone could be attracted to a lawyer who works in foreign aid as they would see him as intelligent and compassionate. If he then went on to do something uncompassionate they might revise their opinion. But at the point where Suzanne was attracted to him she couldn't see the future.

Fittle

cloptrop wrote: »

Would you have a baby with David?

Why, would you?

Fittle

iguana wrote: »

And you really don't think that most adult women can see past a man's disability if he has a good personality and an interesting, extremely worthwhile job?

It has absolutely nothing to do with anything that most adult women can see.

What this whole storyline HAS to do with is that no-one has ever said to Suzanne 'He has no arms'. In real life, that's what would happen - if Suzanne didn't openly discuss it, then the rest of the neighbourhood would discuss it.

Are you trying to tell me that 'most adult women' wouldn't even mention the fact that Suzanne's boyfriend has no arms?

I worked in the area of disability for years, and would openly discuss with people who have no arms, that they have no arms. Disability becomes 'normalised' in the disability sector, but when people go out into a world that doesn't deal with disability on a daily basis, people comment.

I think the guy who plays David is a great actor - but I also think that FC approached this whole area of disability in the way they approach may stories - with no continuity and no reflection on what would happen in real life.

cloptrop

Fittle wrote: »

Why, would you?

No Im a hugger , I couldnt give that up no matter how smart and pretty he was

Fittle wrote: »

It has absolutely nothing to do with anything that most adult women can see.

What this whole storyline HAS to do with is that no-one has ever said to Suzanne 'He has no arms'. In real life, that's what would happen - if Suzanne didn't openly discuss it, then the rest of the neighbourhood would discuss it.

Are you trying to tell me that 'most adult women' wouldn't even mention the fact that Suzanne's boyfriend has no arms?

I worked in the area of disability for years, and would openly discuss with people who have no arms, that they have no arms. Disability becomes 'normalised' in the disability sector, but when people go out into a world that doesn't deal with disability on a daily basis, people comment.

I think the guy who plays David is a great actor - but I also think that FC approached this whole area of disability in the way they approach may stories - with no continuity and no reflection on what would happen in real life.

Yeah in real life everytime he went in the helping hand some skanger would make a joke.

iguana

Fittle wrote: »

What this whole storyline HAS to do with is that no-one has ever said to Suzanne 'He has no arms'. In real life, that's what would happen - if Suzanne didn't openly discuss it, then the rest of the neighbourhood would discuss it.

Are you trying to tell me that 'most adult women' wouldn't even mention the fact that Suzanne's boyfriend has no arms?

I never said that his job would make women blind to his disability, I said that many women would find someone who does his job very appealing (regardless of the length of his arms.

I don't doubt that his physicality would be discussed by the friends and family of a woman dating him. Both with her and behind her back. Both in a genuine concerned fashion and in a rude, gossipy fashion.

cloptrop

iguana wrote: »

I never said that his job would make women blind to his disability, I said that many women would find someone who does his job very appealing (regardless of the length of his arms.

I don't doubt that his physicality would be discussed by the friends and family of a woman dating him. Both with her and behind her back. Both in a genuine concerned fashion and in a rude, gossipy fashion.

Theyd probably say things like her new fella is a lawyer then the other fella would say yeah hes an expert with the long arm of the law.
Stuff like that , kids can be so mean.

silversky

cloptrop wrote: »

Theyd probably say things like her new fella is a lawyer then the other fella would say yeah hes an expert with the long arm of the law.
Stuff like that , kids can be so mean.

Those kind of comments aren't used just by "kids". I'm sure there would be a few adults making comments like that too.

cloptrop

silversky wrote: »

Those kind of comments aren't used just by "kids". I'm sure there would be a few adults making comments like that too.

If n adult made a comment like that hed karate kick them , did you not see what he did to damos brother

Roslin

Look guys, regardless of David's disability Suzanne is having his baby. I take it from the recent comments that people realise that babies are not found under the cabbage leaves thanks for clarification of that iguana in your facts of life speech earlier. Can we just move on and get over David's physical disability, Suzanne clearly has and I think you will find that there are many people married to or living with people who are disabled be it blind, in wheelchairs, Physically challenged in some way or other, mentally ill etc and they are perfectly happy as couples. Can we just move on?

silversky

TBH I really couldn't care less if David had two legs missing or Suzanne was having a calf with three human heads! It's only a soap at the end of the day

Roslin

David took long enough almost nine months to get himself back to Dublin's Fair City and the girl he found so pretty. He is not exactly the most reliable of blokes. This is more or less the issue on the box as far as I can detect. Is he going to skidaddle off again to Bosnia or whereever if he doesn't feel like changing the nappies or is he going to make a genuine effort to partake in his child's life whether he is with Suzanne or not? To me that seems to be the more pressing matter.

Roslin

If Suzanne was having a calf with three human heads then I think that would actually be a first for a soap. What kind of an award would be up for grabs at the soap awards - Freaky storyline of the year award or .............. making history gong.
I think the ratings would be very good for rte anyway - now that would be worth watching don't you think when Bela and co arrive to see the new baby and look into the cot! What Esther would have to say would be of interest too.

Roslin

If Silversky is being serious, then I think you need to quit aspiring to be a scriptwriter for soaps and stick to your day job.

silversky

Roslin wrote: »

If Silversky is being serious, then I think you need to quit aspiring to be a scriptwriter for soaps and stick to your day job.

Yes I'm being quite serious.

They'd take me on no bother. My script writing would equal the actors acting skills.