Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

glick6

Thinkstoomuch wrote: »

Id agree with most of that but Lehane is no where near he's form of the same time last year.Last year he was superb all through the Fitzgibbon Cup and in the first game against ye got about 7 from play in Cork.He really only came to life against UCD and against Mary's I last week.
Even so last week I would say while he looked like he was coming in to form,he was not spectaular.He's goal was actually a poor shot,Nolan the goal keeper really should of saved it.
Harnedy our half forward is actually in better form.He is winning more dirty ball.
Lehane was poor againt tipp by he own standards,just one point from play.
He is not even starting as he is being rested after a lot of hurling the last few weeks.He is a danger definetley,but he is not firing on all cylinders yet.I would expect both full back lines will see a lot of ball,as Fraher field is such a tight ptich.
It is hear ye could really prosper as Mcdonnell is not good under the high ball.
Shane walsh will take any chance that he gets.
Kearney and Paudie sul will be the main men for waterford to watch as they are Corks main link men.Most of Corks scores will be mainly around the space they create for the rest of the forwards.
The battle between Paudie Sul and Brick will be intersting.Does the Brick hold the centre or br dragged all over the place like Maher was?The Brick is no fool.
Pa Cronin is the main target man for us.

Peter O Brien and Harnedy are there to add to Cronin,but these 3,are making their league debuts and are unproven.It may take them a few games for us to see their best.
This will be a close game.The weather will have a big bearing.What impresses me the most about the side ye have picked is ye have expierence and physicality in the spine of yere team.
Cork by comparison are inexpierenced
in those positions.Ye have Lawlor,the Brick,Prengerast and Walsh .
Tippereary was not a true test of Cork.
Sunday will be,as this is a tough place to go for such a young team.Hopefully it be a good game.The last time we played ye in waterford it was a draw.

Eh Lehane didn't play fitzgibbon in 2012 no? He was a first year?

Orizio

Lehane was indeed a Fresher in 2012.

jupiterjack

Half time: Football League London 0-8 Waterford 1-3.

Tipperary animal lover

London leading Waterford HT 0-8 1-03

KevIRL

Sigh! Come on Waterford get it together

jupiterjack

2nd half Latest: London 0-10 Waterford 1-6 46m

jupiterjack

St. Augustines 1-12 Ardee C.S. 1-8...great win...

jupiterjack

Latest. Waterford 1-9 London 0-12

jupiterjack

London 0-14 Waterford 1-10, result, thats a bit of a disaster....

KevIRL

Complete disaster, second time in a few years we've lost away to London and it pretty much kills off any promotion hopes.

Ando's Saggy Bottom

Ah FFS. One step forwards and two steps back.

Thinkstoomuch

glick6 wrote: »

Eh Lehane didn't play fitzgibbon in 2012 no? He was a first year?

Freshers i meant

Mountainlad

Thinkstoomuch wrote: »

Id agree with most of that but Lehane is no where near he's form of the same time last year.Last year he was superb all through the Fitzgibbon Cup and in the first game against ye got about 7 from play in Cork.He really only came to life against UCD and against Mary's I last week.
Even so last week I would say while he looked like he was coming in to form,he was not spectaular.He's goal was actually a poor shot,Nolan the goal keeper really should of saved it.
Harnedy our half forward is actually in better form.He is winning more dirty ball.
Lehane was poor againt tipp by he own standards,just one point from play.
He is not even starting as he is being rested after a lot of hurling the last few weeks.He is a danger definetley,but he is not firing on all cylinders yet.I would expect both full back lines will see a lot of ball,as Fraher field is such a tight ptich.
It is hear ye could really prosper as Mcdonnell is not good under the high ball.
Shane walsh will take any chance that he gets.
Kearney and Paudie sul will be the main men for waterford to watch as they are Corks main link men.Most of Corks scores will be mainly around the space they create for the rest of the forwards.
The battle between Paudie Sul and Brick will be intersting.Does the Brick hold the centre or br dragged all over the place like Maher was?The Brick is no fool.
Pa Cronin is the main target man for us.

Peter O Brien and Harnedy are there to add to Cronin,but these 3,are making their league debuts and are unproven.It may take them a few games for us to see their best.
This will be a close game.The weather will have a big bearing.What impresses me the most about the side ye have picked is ye have expierence and physicality in the spine of yere team.
Cork by comparison are inexpierenced in those positions.Ye have Lawlor,the Brick,Prengerast and Walsh .
Tippereary was not a true test of Cork.
Sunday will be,as this is a tough place to go for such a young team.Hopefully it be a good game.The last time we played ye in waterford it was a draw.

It's going to be a close game, I think the odds Waterford have for the game are very appealing.

I think crucially from our point of view as that we don't miss four frees like we did the last time. We'd a few poor wides early in the last game outside of that too. The back played really well the last day, but you'd have to question some of Clare's forwards and Conlon won a lot of ball out in the half forward line in the second half. Should be a good game.

redlead

robopaddy wrote: »

really like the look of that team. kind of looking forward to sunday now after seeing it. for so many years weve looked at the teams named for league games you find yourself thinking why is this lad starting or what are they playing him there for. a couple names dont need mentioning. but this year at least theres no messing around and were picking the best lads available to us in the right positions and thats a good start. Darragh Fives at midfield is an interesting one but I wouldnt have too many fears about him at all. a very versatile player, stylish hurler aswell and will know a good few of the Cork lads from being with UCC in the Fitzgibbon.

Just want to see a performance on Sunday. Cork is probably a bit of a step up from Clare so we'll have to up it a bit again. But if we hurl like we can we'll be there or there abouts after 70 mins Im sure of that

that was precisley what I used to like so much about the old league format. I don't want to see full strength teams in the league, I like seeing players being tried out. It is impossible for teams with a relatively weak squad like ours to do that and not get relegated in the current league format unfortunately. It plays into the hands of teams like Tipp and Kk in the long run.

Black Suir

jupiterjack wrote: »

London 0-14 Waterford 1-10, result, thats a bit of a disaster....

A bit............

Post Primary

well done to St Augustines Abbeyside and CBS Dungarvan who both had terrific wins today in the All Ireland Semi Finals. St Augustines beat a fancied Ardee team 1.12 to 1.8. CBS beat Heywood Laois AET in the second game 3.16 to 2.13. St Augustines will play Strokestown Roscommon in the final and St Marys Belfast will be CBS's opposition. Both games are down for 30th March. Venue to be confirmed.

Black Suir

Post Primary wrote: »

well done to St Augustines Abbeyside and CBS Dungarvan who both had terrific wins today in the All Ireland Semi Finals. St Augustines beat a fancied Ardee team 1.12 to 1.8. CBS beat Heywood Laois AET in the second game 3.16 to 2.13. St Augustines will play Strokestown Roscommon in the final and St Marys Belfast will be CBS's opposition. Both games are down for 30th March. Venue to be confirmed.

Maybe things have changed and these lads have not had the chance to update their website, but they give the date of the Dungarvan CBS game as April 13. See the note at the bottom of the page regarding St. Mary's and the date of the fixture. http://pp.gaa.ie/fixtures

Post Primary

you are probably right. Be better for the lads if it was spread out a bit. Busy few weeks ahead. Croke Cup semi on 23rd.

Straight Talker

Another defeat in London.This team doesn't seem to like travelling by plane!I have to say that's a serious setback.If you want to win promotion then London should have been a handy two points.Then again i hear that London are improving with all the exiled irish people that are moving over there so maybe it's not as easy a fixture as you would think.They can't afford anymore slip ups from now on and their also relying on other teams to drop points.

WumBuster

shoddy14 wrote: »

Just heard that the U-21 football team wont train this year and will be picked on player form over the last few years. This is an absolute disgrace and embarrassment, Players were only contacted this week and asked about their availability for championship in 3 weeks time.

This is completely unacceptable...Yeah i understand we are a hurling county and it will always be number one but i mean c'mon how are we ever going to even hope of progressing with this contemptible attitude from our county board. If I was Niall Carew I would resign on the spot..

WumBuster

Straight Talker wrote: »

Another defeat in London.This team doesn't seem to like travelling by plane!I have to say that's a serious setback.If you want to win promotion then London should have been a handy two points.Then again i hear that London are improving with all the exiled irish people that are moving over there so maybe it's not as easy a fixture as you would think.They can't afford anymore slip ups from now on and their also relying on other teams to drop points.

I wouldnt say its a big shock. London have improved massively in recent years. Normally you'd head over to Ruislip and expect a win barring a catastrophe, but now its a much different proposition. Its interesting so far that we have either won or lost games by very narrow margins, which I think is positive sign.But promotion from Division 4 this year we can forget about anyway.

Crusty Blaa

WumBuster wrote: »

I wouldnt say its a big shock. London have improved massively in recent years. Normally you'd head over to Ruislip and expect a win barring a catastrophe, but now its a much different proposition. Its interesting so far that we have either won or lost games by very narrow margins, which I think is positive sign.But promotion from Division 4 this year we can forget about anyway.

Yes but we have apparently improved over the past few years too. I know for a fact that the boys used to use the London away game as an excuse for a piss up weekend away so hopefully Carew has cut this out. I know one of the lads on the London panel and he told me they were missing a few players for the Waterford game. Waterford were excellent at the back but very poor in attack going by what he was saying. Pretty much the same evaluation as from the Limerick game.

On another note: the U21 footballers not training is a absolute joke. We seem to take one step forward, two steps back when it comes to football in this county. 10 years ago this year, we beat Kerry in the U21 Munster Football Final and what has happened since? SFA!

seananigans

http://eircomsports.eircom.net/News/Hurling-Power-Rankings-3-2013.aspx

WTF is this nonsense? Limerick 5th best in the country, and Dublin are ranked, higher , you wonder what some people do be thinking

Crusty Blaa

seananigans wrote: »

http://eircomsports.eircom.net/News/Hurling-Power-Rankings-3-2013.aspx

WTF is this nonsense? Limerick 5th best in the country, and Dublin are ranked, higher , you wonder what some people do be thinking

Pure tripe of an article. Easy know he is a Tipp man living and hurling in Dublin. Limerick, Dublin and Clare ranked above Waterford! Nonsense is right.

fatherbuzcagney

Quote:
Originally Posted by seananigans
http://eircomsports.eircom.net/News/...gs-3-2013.aspx

WTF is this nonsense? Limerick 5th best in the country, and Dublin are ranked, higher , you wonder what some people do be thinking
Pure tripe of an article. Easy know he is a Tipp man living and hurling in Dublin. Limerick, Dublin and Clare ranked above Waterford! Nonsense is right.

true, should have wexford in there aswell:eek:

deisefolife

honn the deise great start for us

deisefolife

seananigans wrote: »

http://eircomsports.eircom.net/News/Hurling-Power-Rankings-3-2013.aspx

WTF is this nonsense? Limerick 5th best in the country, and Dublin are ranked, higher , you wonder what some people do be thinking

that is the biggest pile of dung iv ever seen, tipp ranked third and cork ranked fourth

with limerick clare and dubs ranked higher than us

HillFarmer

deisefolife wrote: »

honn the deise great start for us

Very strong breeze favouring us, we'll need to stop missing the wides.

Cake Man

Thought this was a 2.30pm throw in but doing well by the sounds of it. Need to keep the scoreboard ticking over with that breeze.

deisefolife

a goal now would be sweat

Cake Man

Cork coming back strong, 0-11 to 1-5 now. All momentum Cork atm

deisefolife

wake up !!!!!!

they seem to have fallen asleep

Cake Man

Can't see how we'll win this, feeding off scraps and Cork in control with the breeze. 1-9 to 0-13 with 15mins left

Maurice on for O'Halloran who got injured, Mahony poor free wide. All even now but you have to think Cork smell blood

deisefolife

jesus whats gone wrong for us

The blue blaa

Draw again, shud see it out now couldn't be long left

0-15 to 1-12 good point in the end subs done very well

Cake Man

1-12 to 0-15 FT, cant complain tbh looked like we threw i away.Down by 2 going into injury time, it was a good result in that respect. Nash made a great late few saves that we should have buried though. Second half performance not great despite against the breeze and poor conditions.

Valuable point gained but up by 8 at HT, we would have had expected to hang on. We'd still need another win to be safe I think.

Mountainlad

Cake Man wrote: »

1-12 to 0-15 FT, cant complain tbh looked like we threw i away. Nash made a great late save or two that we should have buried though. Second half performance not great despite against the breeze and poor conditions.

Valuable point gained but up by 8 at HT, we would have had expected to hang on. We'd still need another win to be safe I think.

We probably do but if we get one we'll be in the semis I'd say.

How many wides did we have from fress, was it just the one in the second half? We really can't afford those, but then you'd have to allow for the conditions on a day like to day in fairness to mahony.

Sounds like we really should have scored a goal at the end though, but overall a good result.

Also worth noting, we're second in the table this evening, level on points with Cork as Clare beat Galway. Kilkenny are last, and we play them next weekend.

doz

Up there with the worst conditions I've ever seen at a game and all credit to both teams who, despite the conditions, put on a really gripping spectacle. Draw a fair result over 70 mins I thought. We were very wasteful in first half and Cork really came at us in the second half but we battled brilliantly in last 15 minutes to secure a point. Lot of positives to take from this game, subs made a great impact. Seamus Prendergast was superb today, he has a new lease of life since Ryan came in. Great to see such a big crowd too depsite the weather.

jive

shoddy14 wrote: »

Just heard that the U-21 football team wont train this year and will be picked on player form over the last few years. This is an absolute disgrace and embarrassment, Players were only contacted this week and asked about their availability for championship in 3 weeks time.

As far as I know there were trials today in Dungarvan and basically if you wanted to turn up you could. Think they're playing Tipp in Thurles this Wednesday or next Wednesday. They're going to get hammered, it's a waste of time even sending a team when they haven't even trained.

glick6

doz wrote: »

Up there with the worst conditions I've ever seen at a game and all credit to both teams who, despite the conditions, put on a really gripping spectacle. Draw a fair result over 70 mins I thought. We were very wasteful in first half and Cork really came at us in the second half but we battled brilliantly in last 15 minutes to secure a point. Lot of positives to take from this game, subs made a great impact. Seamus Prendergast was superb today, he has a new lease of life since Ryan came in. Great to see such a big crowd too depsite the weather.

Whatever about the result, the way the players went about the game today was very heartening. To go two points down towards the end in those conditions, against that wind and to come back to draw was fantastic. Yes, we could have had the goal at the end, but it wasn't to be.

With cork scoring the goal so early in the second half it was always going to be backs to the wall stuff.

The conditions were so bad that one player was coming over to the sideline to try warm up his hands, he was completely numb. Could not feel a thing.

There were a couple of missed frees and a couple of other mistakes that led to cork points but I wouldn't dwell on them.

Cork had a point given that I'm fairly sure was wide. Liam lawlor was blown up twice later on ye second half very harshly I thought. I'd be interested to see replays.

I thought Shane Fives was excellent. Also very impressed with Shane o'Sullivan, Seamus and Jake Dillon. Jamie Barron caused a lot of trouble when he came in and it was great to see Maurice come on and almost snatch the win.

Hopefully Darragh Fives is ok. He didn't really seem to pull up so let's hope it was just precautionary.

Very happy with team selection and happy with the changes that were made. I'll be looking closely at Paidi Mahoney on the frees next day. Two games now with a couple misses, granted today was horrific for free takers. Noel Connors back, Darragh Fives fully fit as well as Maurice and Shane Walsh back up to speed and hopefully we keep momentum up and get another result over the next couple games.

Orizio

Draw fair result. Both sides performed very well considering the conditions and time of the year. O'Halloran is a lovely hurler.

robopaddy

cant help but feel today was a missed opportunity as far as the league is concerned. points are going to be hard to come by from by from here on. it dosent get any easier going up to kk next week whol be hurting after 2 defeats. it was great to get the draw morale wise but with this current league system you need to be able to close out the game when your well on top. sorry for the negativity but i realisically we cant expect to get much off kk galway or tipp

suitcasepink

robopaddy wrote: »

cant help but feel today was a missed opportunity as far as the league is concerned. points are going to be hard to come by from by from here on. it dosent get any easier going up to kk next week whol be hurting after 2 defeats. it was great to get the draw morale wise but with this current league system you need to be able to close out the game when your well on top. sorry for the negativity but i realisically we cant expect to get much off kk galway or tipp

Galway are often pretty accommodating to us in our times of need! I wouldnt dare make predictions yet, theres still a long way to go.

Nonoperational

Too bad conditions to read anything into it other than it was a decent effort from both teams.

lovelypoint

Crusty Blaa wrote: »

Pure tripe of an article. Easy know he is a Tipp man living and hurling in Dublin. Limerick, Dublin and Clare ranked above Waterford! Nonsense is right.

Ha ha, grading teams for a cup competition.. is there any more pointless exercise, lol

seananigans

lovelypoint wrote: »

Ha ha, grading teams for a cup competition.. is there any more pointless exercise, lol

What was more laughable was that while peoplee can have different opinions, from that lst you woulndt have predicted on league result so far

aramush

Every time I hear Michael Ryan talk, it makes me giggle.

lovelypoint

aramush wrote: »

Every time I hear Michael Ryan talk, it makes me giggle.

I know, Michael Ryan is as GAA as a hang' sandwich. May the GAA never sanitise all the hokey..

lovelypoint

seananigans wrote: »

What was more laughable was that while peoplee can have different opinions, from that lst you woulndt have predicted on league result so far

Know what you mean, am more than mildly surprised at our joint-top position with Cork!

Deskjockey

aramush wrote: »

Every time I hear Michael Ryan talk, it makes me giggle.

Me too. "Round the rugged rock, the ragged rascal ran. "

Fair play to him though, he looks to be doing well with them this year