Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

calvin_zola

ArtVandelay76 wrote: »

I think he's mountain lads arch nemesis. I am finding it slightly amusing though.

Ah makes sense

Fentdog84

KevIRL wrote: »

2-15 to 0-9 43minutes, no way back from that surely.

Pity, must be a very strong Tipp team, or did we just not turn up?

deisebhoy17

mouthinlad wrote: »

game over, f#cking useless, might head off to beat the traffic lol

Not to be this year

Hslaw

ArtVandelay76 wrote: »

calvin_zola wrote: »

mouthinlad wrote: »

the eastern players are bloody much, hopefully we can pull it out the bag in the second half

Whats your problem woth the east man

I think he's mountain lads arch nemesis. I am finding it slightly amusing though.

Lol

Fentdog84

2-21 - 0-10

calvin_zola

disappointing......

KevIRL

2-25 to 0-12 FT

deisebhoy17

Fentdog84 wrote: »

2-21 - 0-10

A few of our lads were on the sauce in dgarvan sat nite. I know the leaving is just finished but a change of mindset is needed going forward.
this was no bad waterford team, we went to clare and won and clare gave cork a good trouncing in the qualifiers so we shouldnt be this far off the pace

mccarthy37

I think our days in the hurling sunshine are over, let hope our seniors can keep the scoreline some way respectable.

Fentdog84

2-25 - 0-12 final score.

Big beating.

deisefolife

are the minors out of the championship now ?

deisebhoy17

mouthinlad wrote: »

Nah nah nah, I can safely say all the western players where tucked into bed by me personally after preparing a cup of horlicks for em... U probably heard dat was some of the city lads out drinking in waherford city

lol... a couple must have slipped under your radar unless otherwise my eyesight has deceived me!!

By the way youve sent Mountainlad into paranoia overdrive following your little little cameo on Matt Keane/Kevin Casey on wlr saturday!!!

deisebhoy17

deisefolife wrote: »

are the minors out of the championship now ?

absolutely

Mountainlad

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

A few of our lads were on the sauce in dgarvan sat nite. I know the leaving is just finished but a change of mindset is needed going forward.
this was no bad waterford team, we went to clare and won and clare gave cork a good trouncing in the qualifiers so we shouldnt be this far off the pace

I reckon there were Tipp lads out too, and rightly so, they only finish the Leaving Cert once. I'm not saying it's not important, but the Minor championship isn't that important. What's more important is that they continue to develop as hurlers as they get older. Plenty of good players there. I've seen McNulty, Dunford and Bennett first hand and plenty of people have mentioned the potential of a few others like Tadhg Burke.

It's not a rare occurrence for Minors to get caught like rabbits in the headlights. Happened last year in Croke Park too.

Doesn't bother me though as Jake Dillon, Ray Barry, Jamie Barron, Gavin O'Brien, Donie Breathnach and Colin Walsh who were all on that team last year have all been on the Senior/Intermediate panels at some stage this year. Good to see 7 players getting that kind of exposure just after Minor.

Think the u21s doing well is more important, and I hope they do.

mccarthy37

Mountainlad wrote: »

I reckon there were Tipp lads out too, and rightly so, they only finish the Leaving Cert once. I'm not saying it's not important, but the Minor championship isn't that important. What's more important is that they continue to develop as hurlers as they get older. Plenty of good players there. I've seen McNulty, Dunford and Bennett first hand and plenty of people have mentioned the potential of a few others like Tadhg Burke.

It's not a rare occurrence for Minors to get caught like rabbits in the headlights. Happened last year in Croke Park too.

Doesn't bother me though as Jake Dillon, Ray Barry, Jamie Barron, Gavin O'Brien, Donie Breathnach and Colin Walsh who were all on that team last year have all been on the Senior/Intermediate panels at some stage this year. Good to see 7 players getting that kind of exposure just after Minor.

Think the u21s doing well is more important, and I hope they do.

This kind of beating doesn't do morale any good, I'd say like me you are not far from the border there will be plenty of slagging leading up to the Munster Final now, how are we going to answer back after this beating, I'm beginning to feel we are getting left behind again as the three top counties are taking over again. What I saw of our under 21 players in the intermediate game against Clare wouldn't give me much confidence either. We have got to have a serious look at ourselves as we have shipped some big beatings at different grades in the last few years.

Mountainlad

mccarthy37 wrote: »

This kind of beating doesn't do morale any good, I'd say like me you are not far from the border there will be plenty of slagging leading up to the Munster Final now, how are we going to answer back after this beating, I'm beginning to feel we are getting left behind again as the three top counties are taking over again. What I saw of our under 21 players in the intermediate game against Clare wouldn't give me much confidence either. We have got to have a serious look at ourselves as we have shipped some big beatings at different grades in the last few years.

Haha to be honest I'd expect to hear a lot more about last year's Munster Final than a Minor match. In fact, wouldn't be surprised if some of them didn't even know there was a Minor match on. Plus, they can do all the slagging pre match they want, most important thing is that I have bragging rights post match.

I don't agree. This is Tipp's first Munster Minor Final appearance since 2009, we've made the last three. Cork have not been in a Minor Final since 2008. There u21s haven't exactly been going great guns in recent times either. Even Kilkenny haven't been as imperious as they usually are at underage the last couple of years.

I reckon this game was just one of those days, and that will be evident in the Munster Final as that will be a much closer game and we did beat Clare in their own backyard, which this years u21 team did to Clare, Limerick and Tipp in 2009.

As for the intermediates, I thought the u21s actually looked better than some of the other intermediates. Ray Barry was brillinat, as was Madigan, Eamon Murphy was more lively that any of the rest of the forwards and Stephen O'Keeffe kept Tony Kelly fairly quiet which is no mean feat. I'd expect more from Brian O'Halloran but I think he;ll be better in a few weeks time. Jake Dillon won't be out at wing forward for the 21s and I think that may suit him better. Finan Murray did get one good score too.

Add Philip Mahony, Gavin O'Brien, SOK, Darragh Fives, Gavin O'Brien, Martin O'Neill, Jamie Barron and Paudie Prendergast to that and you have a fine team. All those players are current/future Senior county players and it looks pretty good when you add Paudie Mahony who's injured and players a few years older like Daniels and Maurice into the equation and you couldn't be negative about Waterford hurling's recent underage teams and the players that are coming from them.

deisebhoy17

mccarthy37 wrote: »

This kind of beating doesn't do morale any good, I'd say like me you are not far from the border there will be plenty of slagging leading up to the Munster Final now, how are we going to answer back after this beating, I'm beginning to feel we are getting left behind again as the three top counties are taking over again. What I saw of our under 21 players in the intermediate game against Clare wouldn't give me much confidence either. We have got to have a serious look at ourselves as we have shipped some big beatings at different grades in the last few years.

Now to be fair youre jumping the gun there. Today is a big setback theres no doubt about that. But the last 3 to 4 years weve been very competitive at minor and have been making great strides compared to where we were in the late 90s up to the mid naughties where we were well of the pace with the other Munster counties. We made the last 3 Munster minor finals in a row and although we didnt kick on and get to an AI final bottom line is we were there or thereabouts and were not being left behind.
Lets be honest were a small enough county and dont have the pick of counties like Tipp so were not going to get it right every year. We are certainly a lot better than we showed tonight but we just have to learn from it, dust ourselves down and move on. We are still a county thats developing, the underage structures are in place and it takes time fot it to really bear fruit.
The u21s are out against Clare in a couple weeks and that is a very important for the medium term. This team won a Munster 3 years ago and there have been many fine minors in the intervening years however we have got a very tough draw against Clare. We certainly cannot afford to let a repeat of what happened tonight occur,otherwise it will set us back a lot. But Im not buying into the pessimism over one defeat tonight, against what has to be said is a super Tipp team. there are plenty reasons to be positive about the future

Cake Man

Just back from Thurles a while ago, fcuking horrible evening. It was one of those games where absolutely nothing got going. I know it may look bad but I have no doubt those players aren't as bad as they looked this evening, they just froze up and played as if they had jelly legs and hurleys made out of rope. It was painful viewing watching them struggle so badly and I don't want to be too hard on the lads but we just got cleaned all over the pitch.
Played with a 2 man FF line when Tipp started to dominate and every ball that went into Stephen Bennett resulted in him being double marked. Midfield and half forward lines were being roasted.
To be fair, we did create about 2 or 3 good goal chances but the final ball was always played that bit too hard or handpassed to a wrong player when through on goal. If we got those it could have been a different story but Tipp were just able to literally walk through us. The amount of times a Tipp man made a mistake but had plenty of time and space to get the ball on the second or third attempt was criminal. Tipp players able to pop over points without any pressure, again criminal.

Am just so disappointed, I really had big hopes for this team with CnD winning the Harty and the quality of players in the squad. Unfortunately, the lads just didn't do themselves justice on the night and the worst pat is that they have no chance to show they're better than that. Hopefully they come back stronger.

Fentdog84

Mountainlad wrote: »

Haha to be honest I'd expect to hear a lot more about last year's Munster Final than a Minor match. In fact, wouldn't be surprised if some of them didn't even know there was a Minor match on. Plus, they can do all the slagging pre match they want, most important thing is that I have bragging rights post match.

I don't agree. This is Tipp's first Munster Minor Final appearance since 2009, we've made the last three. Cork have not been in a Minor Final since 2008. There u21s haven't exactly been going great guns in recent times either. Even Kilkenny haven't been as imperious as they usually are at underage the last couple of years.

I reckon this game was just one of those days, and that will be evident in the Munster Final as that will be a much closer game and we did beat Clare in their own backyard, which this years u21 team did to Clare, Limerick and Tipp in 2009.

As for the intermediates, I thought the u21s actually looked better than some of the other intermediates. Ray Barry was brillinat, as was Madigan, Eamon Murphy was more lively that any of the rest of the forwards and Stephen O'Keeffe kept Tony Kelly fairly quiet which is no mean feat. I'd expect more from Brian O'Halloran but I think he;ll be better in a few weeks time. Jake Dillon won't be out at wing forward for the 21s and I think that may suit him better. Finan Murray did get one good score too.

Add Philip Mahony, Gavin O'Brien, SOK, Darragh Fives, Gavin O'Brien, Martin O'Neill, Jamie Barron and Paudie Prendergast to that and you have a fine team. All those players are current/future Senior county players and it looks pretty good when you add Paudie Mahony who's injured and players a few years older like Daniels and Maurice into the equation and you couldn't be negative about Waterford hurling's recent underage teams and the players that are coming from them.

Really looking forward to the u21's this year with all those names involved this is possibly our strongest U21 side ever, or since the 90's at least, so big things are expected, you would think that they could go all the way if they clicked. Unfortunately we are drawn away against a very strong Clare side who have been having success underage themselves in recent times so it should be an intriguing contest. But as we saw this evening, things can be unpredictable at underage and despite tonights' hammering I am very optimistic about the future and the young players that we have been producing over the past 4-5 years.

Slow Show

mouthinlad wrote: »

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Mountainlad wrote: »

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The similarity between your two usernames really is quite uncanny.

Jarjohn

Minors were ripped apart by Tipp. Totally outclassed and not helped by poor management tactics. Barry Bourke and Bennett only players that stood out. Concern that only 3 of starting 15 from Senior clubs. Surely between the 12 Senior clubs in the county there is at least 4 quality minors capable of starting. No disrespect to minors playing with Junior and inter clubs but any minor playing Senior Club surely developing and capable of playing at a much higher standard.

hurler on de ditch

Jarjohn wrote: »

Minors were ripped apart by Tipp. Totally outclassed and not helped by poor management tactics. Barry Bourke and Bennett only players that stood out. Concern that only 3 of starting 15 from Senior clubs. Surely between the 12 Senior clubs in the county there is at least 4 quality minors capable of starting. No disrespect to minors playing with Junior and inter clubs but any minor playing Senior Club surely developing and capable of playing at a much higher standard.

as i stated months ago ,not much hope for minors with management team ,a couple of questions 1,how did they get the job when they never achieved anything of any worth ,doxer in charge of ferrybank for 3 years, think they won a game ,2, who appointed them ,3, how quick can we get rid ,

mccarthy37

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

as i stated months ago ,not much hope for minors with management team ,a couple of questions 1,how did they get the job when they never achieved anything of any worth ,doxer in charge of ferrybank for 3 years, think they won a game ,2, who appointed them ,3, how quick can we get rid ,

When we got a similar beating last year from Dublin Chuck packed it in only after one year, makes you wonder why.

Local_Chap

Jarjohn wrote: »

Minors were ripped apart by Tipp. Totally outclassed and not helped by poor management tactics. Barry Bourke and Bennett only players that stood out. Concern that only 3 of starting 15 from Senior clubs. Surely between the 12 Senior clubs in the county there is at least 4 quality minors capable of starting. No disrespect to minors playing with Junior and inter clubs but any minor playing Senior Club surely developing and capable of playing at a much higher standard.

Richie Doyle for Kilkenny plays with a Junior club and is wing back for Kilkenny Seniors and centre back for the under 21s.....

lar na pairc

To be fair to Chuck, he had his own personal reasons for leaving, bear in mind also the fact that he had been with that squad of players since 2006 as developement squads.

MfMan

Is there / why is there a division between east and west in Waterford? Where is the demarcation line? Is it a city v county thing?

hardybuck

Has anyone heard how the footballers are coming along for the game this Saturday? I presume Hurney will be available following his return to club action last weekend?

Jarjohn

Local_Chap wrote: »

Richie Doyle for Kilkenny plays with a Junior club and is wing back for Kilkenny Seniors and centre back for the under 21s.....

Not my point. You will get odd exceptional player from lower graded clubs but my point is that only 3 players on minor team from senior clubs .....not that a player from lower graded club cant play for county. I know lads might say that that was the best 15 but it is a worry for future if alot of these lads remain playing inter and junior as there is a huge gap in standard between senior and inter/junior in county

comeraghs

most good players from Junior clubs will be playing Harty Cup / Fitzgibbon cup nowadays & will spend more time with these teams than their clubs at younger ages, I think this is important in their development that which clubs they are with.

Ballysaggart will almost certainly be Intermediate next year. Hard to see them getting beaten in jnr.

Black Suir

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

as i stated months ago ,not much hope for minors with management team ,a couple of questions 1,how did they get the job when they never achieved anything of any worth ,doxer in charge of ferrybank for 3 years, think they won a game ,2, who appointed them ,3, how quick can we get rid ,

Was not at the game but would have to tend to agree with you. It is widely reported that members of the panel approached them before the game with Clare to get them to change their ways. When Minor Players do this, or feel the need to do it, it does tend to get questions running in your mind. I would also have issues as to the appointing of selectors. In the last four or five years, am i right in saying that we have had different selectors and coaches each year, but there might be one person who might be involved two years running at times. Look at Galway, the most successful minor team in the last good knows how many teams. They have kept Mattie Forde in charge for God knows how many teams and at this level it works as they are winning All-Ireland. I am around long enough to remember when at the start of each year Bord na nÓg picked there selectors for the year and if they were successful they were kept on while they showed interest in doing so. After a year or two they moved up along to the next team and when it came to picking the minor selectors, the Adult County Board picked them after consulting with the Bord na nÓg for their views. In recent years it appears to be the coaching committee that are calling all the shots. They pick people as is their right from those that have done coaching courses etc. Bord na nÓg seemed to pick them from those the officers saw attending games, helping their clubs in what ever way they could etc. To me there is too many underage committee's in the county, but thankfully its beginning to look like that is to change in the near future.

Mini rant over.

Black Suir

MfMan wrote: »

Is there / why is there a division between east and west in Waterford? Where is the demarcation line? Is it a city v county thing?

Not only is there an east/West thing in the county, but there is also a city/country thing, maybe with Tramore getting in with the city.

There is an invisible line down the county either side of the Mahon falls.

Black Suir

Jarjohn wrote: »

Not my point. You will get odd exceptional player from lower graded clubs but my point is that only 3 players on minor team from senior clubs .....not that a player from lower graded club cant play for county. I know lads might say that that was the best 15 but it is a worry for future if alot of these lads remain playing inter and junior as there is a huge gap in standard between senior and inter/junior in county

Maybe its telling you that the standard of players supplied by the senior clubs is not as strong as it was/should be, or that the clubs in the intermediate and junior grades at underage levels are fast catching up with them. Its not that long ago, that a team from Butlerstown/Dunhill/Fenor were winning 'A Grade' County finals from under 12 up to minor if memory serves me right. Dunhill at the time were an Intermediate club at adult level and Butlerstown and Fenor aren't they both Junior CLubs for God knows how long.

deisebhoy17

Jarjohn wrote: »

Not my point. You will get odd exceptional player from lower graded clubs but my point is that only 3 players on minor team from senior clubs .....not that a player from lower graded club cant play for county. I know lads might say that that was the best 15 but it is a worry for future if alot of these lads remain playing inter and junior as there is a huge gap in standard between senior and inter/junior in county

I dont see your argument here at all. Whatever grade a lads adult club is it wouldnt affect him at minor level anyway. All these lads are playing minor & U21 for the clubs and schools an colleges competitions against players of their own level. A lot of the lads playing last night are with small junior clubs but would be playing A' Grade hurling at minor so I dont think that is an adequate excuse for us being beaten by so much.
As for your concerns that there are too many players from junior and intermediate clubs well its the first year weve had a minor team which hasn't been dominated by the usual 3 or 4 city clubs so dont try and tell me thats bad for hurling. This panel has been backboned by the Colaiste Na Deise Harty winning team, which outside of Dungarvan is and always has consisted of players from small rural clubs around Dungarvan. Surely the junior and intermediate divisions will get stronger with many of these lads coming through and increase the spread of talent. I take it your in favour of players from smaller clubs being poached by the bigger clubs if thats the case?

If you look at it most county players dont train or play any league games with their clubs, are only around for the 4 or 5 club championship games a year. The rest of the year they are training and playing with other senior intercounty players so I dont buy into the argument that because of a lads club it dosent make him good enough or that its bad for Waterford to have too many players from smaller clubs coming throug

deisebhoy17

Black Suir wrote: »

Was not at the game but would have to tend to agree with you. It is widely reported that members of the panel approached them before the game with Clare to get them to change their ways. When Minor Players do this, or feel the need to do it, it does tend to get questions running in your mind. I would also have issues as to the appointing of selectors. In the last four or five years, am i right in saying that we have had different selectors and coaches each year, but there might be one person who might be involved two years running at times. Look at Galway, the most successful minor team in the last good knows how many teams. They have kept Mattie Forde in charge for God knows how many teams and at this level it works as they are winning All-Ireland. I am around long enough to remember when at the start of each year Bord na nÓg picked there selectors for the year and if they were successful they were kept on while they showed interest in doing so. After a year or two they moved up along to the next team and when it came to picking the minor selectors, the Adult County Board picked them after consulting with the Bord na nÓg for their views. In recent years it appears to be the coaching committee that are calling all the shots. They pick people as is their right from those that have done coaching courses etc. Bord na nÓg seemed to pick them from those the officers saw attending games, helping their clubs in what ever way they could etc. To me there is too many underage committee's in the county, but thankfully its beginning to look like that is to change in the near future.

Mini rant over.

He was an allstar footballer with Wexford on his day... good to see him give something back to Galway hurling:P

Jarjohn

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

I dont see your argument here at all. Whatever grade a lads adult club is it wouldnt affect him at minor level anyway. All these lads are playing minor & U21 for the clubs and schools an colleges competitions against players of their own level. A lot of the lads playing last night are with small junior clubs but would be playing A' Grade hurling at minor so I dont think that is an adequate excuse for us being beaten by so much.
As for your concerns that there are too many players from junior and intermediate clubs well its the first year weve had a minor team which hasn't been dominated by the usual 3 or 4 city clubs so dont try and tell me thats bad for hurling. This panel has been backboned by the Colaiste Na Deise Harty winning team, which outside of Dungarvan is and always has consisted of players from small rural clubs around Dungarvan. Surely the junior and intermediate divisions will get stronger with many of these lads coming through and increase the spread of talent. I take it your in favour of players from smaller clubs being poached by the bigger clubs if thats the case?

If you look at it most county players dont train or play any league games with their clubs, are only around for the 4 or 5 club championship games a year. The rest of the year they are training and playing with other senior intercounty players so I dont buy into the argument that because of a lads club it dosent make him good enough or that its bad for Waterford to have too many players from smaller clubs coming throug

The higher standard you play the better you will get. I would be more hopeful for future if we had young lads impessing at Senior Club level than at Inter/Junior where an average senior club player would stand out. I never mentioned city clubs or poaching players and tis no fault of players if they happen to be from a so called small club. I couldnt give a fiddlers what club players are from tbh, but would be worried about standard they are at and what they will be developing at

seananigans

http://joe.ie/gaa/hospital-pass/powers-box-of-hat-tricks-and-a-spot-of-silage-cutting-for-becks-0026380-1

Discussion guys,wrong decision to let him go?

deisebhoy17

seananigans wrote: »

http://joe.ie/gaa/hospital-pass/powers-box-of-hat-tricks-and-a-spot-of-silage-cutting-for-becks-0026380-1

Discussion guys,wrong decision to let him go?

Dont think he was 'let go' to be fair. Management decided that SOK is their first choice keeper and you have to say this has been justified.

Sad to see a lad of Powers quality depart but who can blame any lad for seeing a better life overseas in the current climate. Having sat on the bench for the past 4 years behind Clinton hes obviously decided hes not going put up with another year of it and if I was him Id probably be doing the same at this stage

calvin_zola

joe.ie is such lazy negative thrash reporting journalism

The blue blaa

seananigans wrote: »

http://joe.ie/gaa/hospital-pass/powers-box-of-hat-tricks-and-a-spot-of-silage-cutting-for-becks-0026380-1

Discussion guys,wrong decision to let him go?

If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen get out...

@Jarjohn I agree with you top players need to be playing top level club hurling, end of.. If their unfortunate to be part of an intermediate club that level of competition needs to be all county how can they excell playin the likes of ballyduff lower, and tramore look at Dunhill and Roanmore gettin hammered in senior because it's too big a step up no disrespect but lets not beat round the bush here and I don't blame them I blame the structure of championship..

Harty cup hurling and inter county hurling no comparison

newyork4sam

I was at the game last night and no matter what tactics or even had we our best 15 out we still would'nt have won, I believe alot of players on ther panel were'nt given fair chances and the team was picked on loyalty rather than ability. Hopefully a better system of pickng management is drawn up in the future to give the team an optimum chance of achieving success

Mountainlad

calvin_zola wrote: »

joe.ie is such lazy negative thrash reporting journalism

Agree. I'd love to know what important league games he played this year. I'd also like to know why the fact that they he scored three 21s would make him an invaluable goalkeeper? My understanding was that keepers are there to help maintain primary possession but primarily to make saves and keep the house safe, but obviously joe.ie no better...

Black Suir

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

He was an allstar footballer with Wexford on his day... good to see him give something back to Galway hurling:P

My mistake, Should have said Mattie Murphy.

deisedude

Power is one of the best shot stoppers in thw country so he can certainly make saves.

Mountainlad wrote: »

calvin_zola wrote: »

joe.ie is such lazy negative thrash reporting journalism

Agree. I'd love to know what important league games he played this year. I'd also like to know why the fact that they he scored three 21s would make him an invaluable goalkeeper? My understanding was that keepers are there to help maintain primary possession but primarily to make saves and keep the house safe, but obviously joe.ie no better...

tus.maith

Strong team for Rd 1 Qualifier game with Wicklow in Aughrim tomorrow.

1. Stephen Enright Ballinacourty
2. Maurice O’Gorman Nire
3. Thomas O’Gorman Nire
4. Kieran Connery Clashmore/Kinsalebeg
5. Tony Grey Stradbally
6. Shane Briggs Ballinacourty
7. Wayne Hennessy Ardmore
8. Sean Dempsey Colligan Emmets
9. Patrick Hurney Ballinacourty
10. Liam Ó Lonáin An Rinn
11. Paul Whyte Kilrossanty
12. Cillian O’Keeffe Clashmore/Kinsalebeg
13. Mark Ferncombe Ballinacourty
14. Gary Hurney Ballinacourty (Captain)
15. J.J. Hutchinson Gaultier

hardybuck

tus.maith wrote: »

Strong team for Rd 1 Qualifier game with Wicklow in Aughrim tomorrow.

1. Stephen Enright Ballinacourty
2. Maurice O’Gorman Nire
3. Thomas O’Gorman Nire
4. Kieran Connery Clashmore/Kinsalebeg
5. Tony Grey Stradbally
6. Shane Briggs Ballinacourty
7. Wayne Hennessy Ardmore
8. Sean Dempsey Colligan Emmets
9. Patrick Hurney Ballinacourty
10. Liam Ó Lonáin An Rinn
11. Paul Whyte Kilrossanty
12. Cillian O’Keeffe Clashmore/Kinsalebeg
13. Mark Ferncombe Ballinacourty
14. Gary Hurney Ballinacourty (Captain)
15. J.J. Hutchinson Gaultier

Only question mark I'd have there is around midfield. Surprised to see Pudge Hurney in there - wouldn't be surprised if this 15 changed before kickoff.

Black Suir

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hardybuck wrote: »

Only question mark I'd have there is around midfield. Surprised to see Pudge Hurney in there - wouldn't be surprised if this 15 changed before kickoff.

Is Sean O'Hare not available for selection. WOuld be better in the middle of the field than the two picked there. As you said wouldn't be surprised to see changes. Is Tommy Prendergast injured again.

hardybuck

Black Suir wrote: »

Is Sean O'Hare not available for selection. WOuld be better in the middle of the field than the two picked there. As you said wouldn't be surprised to see changes. Is Tommy Prendergast injured again.

I don't have access to most of my usual sources at the moment as I'm out of the county, but you'd certainly pick O'Hare at midfield if he was fit, and Prendergast with him if he was fit. I don't know a whole lot about Dempsey, and Pudge Hurney is not really a midfielder.

solarith

O Hare withdrew, don't know about pender

PTH2009

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Advance Purchases:

Covered €30, Uncovered €25, Terrace €15
Family Adult Covered €30 - Juveniles €5
Family Adult UnCovered €25 - Juveniles €5
Family Adult Terrace €15 – Juvenile €5
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Student/OAP - Concession on Stand Tickets only – pay full price and get a refund of €10 at specified Stiles on the day (on production of valid I.D.)

Groups

Juvenile Groups – There will be a limited number of Juvenile Groups available for this game. €3 per Juvenile with a free Adult with every 10 children. Other adults pay €25.

All Groups should be booked directly with Co Board

Match Day Purchases:

Covered €35, Uncovered €30, Terrace €20, Student Terrace €15
Family Adult Covered €35 - Juveniles €5
Family Adult UnCovered €30 - Juveniles €5
Family Adult Terrace €20 – Juvenile €5

Patrons are strongly advised to purchase their tickets in advance otherwise they will have to pay full price for tickets on the day.

the covered stand tickets on Ticketmaster and Tickets.ie are rubbish, they only have Block A and Block B.

Will there be a public sale of tickets in Walsh Park or a ticket van going around the city which might have good covered stand tickets ??.

I hate both the terraces and the uncovered stand. truly i hate the whole place but i love the munster final so whats the point in staying at home watching it on tv when you have a chance to be there ??