Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

Mountainlad

deisedude wrote: »

Power is one of the best shot stoppers in thw country so he can certainly make saves.

I know, but they failed to mention that fact once in the entire article.

hardybuck

solarith wrote: »

O Hare withdrew, don't know about pender

Again!?

deisedude

Mountainlad wrote: »

I know, but they failed to mention that fact once in the entire article.

Ah sorry, I read that and thought you didn't rate him. Joe.ie GAA coverage is basic enough, doubt many of the lads working there know too much about it!

Still though on the topic of lazy journalism and Power. I read on a Hogan stand article about how Power scored a hat trick when playing for Cork VEC schools in 1995 which would have made him 7 or 8 at the time. Should have been 2005!

Just checked, they edited it now!

Twixaroo

newyork4sam wrote: »

I was at the game last night and no matter what tactics or even had we our best 15 out we still would'nt have won, I believe alot of players on ther panel were'nt given fair chances and the team was picked on loyalty rather than ability. Hopefully a better system of pickng management is drawn up in the future to give the team an optimum chance of achieving success

Seems a strange comment that players were picked on loyalty given that there were 4 changes from the previous game no?

Can't believe people are concerned about the fact that so many players came from rural clubs! In the past people complained (and i would have said rightly so) that the big senior clubs were being favoured. I would have seen this years spread of clubs as a positive. To compare, we had 13 different clubs represented in our starting 15, as did Tipp. Admittedly i do not know how many of the Tipp were from senior clubs but it's not like they are just drawing from the same few clubs like some ppl here seem to wish for.

The Coláiste na nDéise team were praised here for their achievement (as they should be!) yet these same lads are then deemed not good enough following one loss to a Tipp team that will have a major say in the destiny of the Minor All Ireland.. It beggars belief really!

Who is it ye are saying is out there that would have made such an impact? I doubt there is any player that wasn't looked at by the management at close quarters. Care to point them out?

Deise Abu 2012

The Waterford footballers travel to AUghrim to play Wicklow in the qualifiers tomorrow and the Waterford under 14 Ladies Football team take on Cavan in the 'B' All-Ireland. I have a quick look at both games in my latest helpings.

Thanks for all the reads. I think since last Sunday, my blog has had its most hits since i began it.


http://deiseabu.blogspot.ie/

newbie_deise

As far as i know pudge will be centre forward, his brother gary will be midfield and paul whyte will be full forward, dont know why the named it different, strong team much more balanced than the team that faced limerick

Hslaw

Deise Abu 2012 wrote: »

The Waterford under 14 Ladies Football team take on Cavan in the 'B' All-Ireland.http://deiseabu.blogspot.ie/

My daughter is on that team :-)
We played cork in a challenge last week or The week before. There in the ( A final ) and we beat them by two goals

DublinGAA96

Both U16 hurling Eastern Championship Semi Finals are on this weekend, with Mount Sion taking on Ballygunner and De La Salle clashing with Passage. Anybody going to either games?

calvin_zola

waterford are 7/2 to win... Anyone think they are worth a few bob... Even money with 4point handicap.. Hurney is playing isn't he?

hardybuck

calvin_zola wrote: »

waterford are 7/2 to win... Anyone think they are worth a few bob... Even money with 4point handicap.. Hurney is playing isn't he?

9/2 to win, and regardless of the odds they are capable of a win. The last two times we played Wicklow home and away in the league we beat them. Our form coming in is poor, but Wicklow's two best players are injured. Couple that with the likes of Hurney, O'Lionnain and Whyte coming back, I think you'd be mad not to put a few quid down at that price.

mccarthy37

Clare minors beat Limerick last night, that means Clare are through to the Munster Final and will at least have two more games this year. Even though we beat Clare in the first round our year is over, it would have been better for us to have lost our first game and take our chances in the qualifiers. Tipp look unstoppable but if Clare win as anything can happen in a final who knows. Win or lose it makes a joke out of our win up in Ennis.

Black Suir

mccarthy37 wrote: »

Clare minors beat Limerick last night, that means Clare are through to the Munster Final and will at least have two more games this year. Even though we beat Clare in the first round our year is over, it would have been better for us to have lost our first game and take our chances in the qualifiers. Tipp look unstoppable but if Clare win as anything can happen in a final who knows. Win or lose it makes a joke out of our win up in Ennis.

I can never for the life of me understand this mindset. Will someone, sometime explain it to me. Often when you go though the back door you are facing into the unknown. Had we lost to Clare, we would have played Cork which would not have been easy.

In the championship to date, Clare have played three games, two of which ended in a draw, against Waterford and then last night against Limerick. Tipperary have played two games and won both games handy, first against Kerry and then against Waterford on Wednesday night. I wonder which team if any will keep their trend going in the Munster Final, ie. Will Clare see a third game end in a draw or will Tipperary for the third time have an easy enough win.

newyork4sam

There were 2 players who were very poor and were taken off against Clare whilst both of them started again against Tipp and imo opinion they where nowhere near inter-county standard. I belive loyalty was a very strong reason for management retaining these players. By the way of the 4 that came in 3 of them would have started against Clare if it wasn't for injury.

KevIRL

Waterford 1-7 to 0-7 behind in second half v Wicklow. Were 0-7 to 0-3 ahead in first half when Gary hurney got himself sent off for an off the ball incident

deisedude

KevIRL wrote: »

Waterford 1-7 to 0-7 behind in second half v Wicklow. Were 0-7 to 0-3 ahead in first half when Gary hurney got himself sent off for an off the ball incident

How many times has he got himself sent off at this stage for doing something stupid?

KevIRL

Waterford ahead by 1 with 5 mins left

KevIRL

Wicklow level it 5 mins into injury time. Off to extra time we go

Twixaroo

newyork4sam wrote: »

There were 2 players who were very poor and were taken off against Clare whilst both of them started again against Tipp and imo opinion they where nowhere near inter-county standard. I belive loyalty was a very strong reason for management retaining these players. By the way of the 4 that came in 3 of them would have started against Clare if it wasn't for injury.

Of the 7 substitutions made over the course of the Clare game only 3 of those substitutes retained their place. Kieran Bennett, Shane Bennett and Darragh Flynn. Don't think the management had any viable options with the injury / illness that Tom Tobin has (was listed among the subs but was replaced on the bench before the game). Flynn had been a started last year and I think was the best option for the corner forward slot. Some of the forward options on the bench (excluding say Adam O'Sullivan who doesn't seem to have performed nearly as well as last year) were a bit lightweight for this Tipp team. Ryan Donnelly would have been a contender perhaps had he been with the panel for longer.

Not sure there was the management could have done tbh. No matter what Waterford team lined up against Tipp they would have been beaten such was the way the game panned out for Tipp. It's a pity this team has no chance to bounce back and prove some people in the county wrong but such is the nature of the minor championship.

hardybuck

KevIRL wrote: »

Wicklow level it 5 mins into injury time. Off to extra time we go

Listening to it here on East Coast FM if anyone is interested in it. Waterford will come up to 15 men for extra time at least.

hardybuck

Seized up in the injury time up there. Gary Hurney is the difference between those sides, with his experience I can't believe he was stupid enough to get involved in an off the ball with the linesman standing right next to him.

Hslaw

Waterford u14 girls won the all Ireland today...

The women will win more then the men ever will in this county...lol

hurler on de ditch

Twixaroo wrote: »

Of the 7 substitutions made over the course of the Clare game only 3 of those substitutes retained their place. Kieran Bennett, Shane Bennett and Darragh Flynn. Don't think the management had any viable options with the injury / illness that Tom Tobin has (was listed among the subs but was replaced on the bench before the game). Flynn had been a started last year and I think was the best option for the corner forward slot. Some of the forward options on the bench (excluding say Adam O'Sullivan who doesn't seem to have performed nearly as well as last year) were a bit lightweight for this Tipp team. Ryan Donnelly would have been a contender perhaps had he been with the panel for longer.

Not sure there was the management could have done tbh. No matter what Waterford team lined up against Tipp they would have been beaten such was the way the game panned out for Tipp. It's a pity this team has no chance to bounce back and prove some people in the county wrong but such is the nature of the minor championship.

THERE IS ALWAYS ALOT the management can do' but they are to naive and not experienced enough to take on the county job ,was ray o brien involved in that shambolic set up ,sonny walsh panel last year ,

Deise Hurler

hurler on the ditch, why the chip on the shoulder. Maybe the management didn't pick you for the minor panel and you want to take revenge on here. Getting boring at this stage. Only ever heard good things about Joxer Burns and having taking part in a few of his training sessions in the alley in Ferrybank, i have always been impressed by him. Ray O Brien was not part of last years sonny walsh management team by the way. Time to move on.

deisebhoy17

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

THERE IS ALWAYS ALOT the management can do' but they are to naive and not experienced enough to take on the county job ,was ray o brien involved in that shambolic set up ,sonny walsh panel last year ,

Clare beat Limerick in the other semi final last night. We beat Clare in Ennis in the first round remember and they turned around and have beaten Cork and Limerick so were not as far away as Wednesdays scoreline suggests. Time to knock this one on the head now and move on.

Lets just hope our u21s can spring some eternal hope

The blue blaa

Hslaw wrote: »

Waterford u14 girls won the all Ireland today...

The women will win more then the men ever will in this county...lol

Congrats to the team an your daughter proud day for you..

The blue blaa

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

Twixaroo wrote: »

Of the 7 substitutions made over the course of the Clare game only 3 of those substitutes retained their place. Kieran Bennett, Shane Bennett and Darragh Flynn. Don't think the management had any viable options with the injury / illness that Tom Tobin has (was listed among the subs but was replaced on the bench before the game). Flynn had been a started last year and I think was the best option for the corner forward slot. Some of the forward options on the bench (excluding say Adam O'Sullivan who doesn't seem to have performed nearly as well as last year) were a bit lightweight for this Tipp team. Ryan Donnelly would have been a contender perhaps had he been with the panel for longer.

Not sure there was the management could have done tbh. No matter what Waterford team lined up against Tipp they would have been beaten such was the way the game panned out for Tipp. It's a pity this team has no chance to bounce back and prove some people in the county wrong but such is the nature of the minor championship.

THERE IS ALWAYS ALOT the management can do' but they are to naive and not experienced enough to take on the county job ,was ray o brien involved in that shambolic set up ,sonny walsh panel last year ,

Last years Sonny Walsh set up are this years Tony Forristal set up,

mccarthy37

Anyone hear of the result between Waterford and Galway this evening in Rathkeale

daddydick

mouthinlad wrote: »

i see where west waterford where unlucky against wicklow.. Some day, some day.

How about a cup of shut your mouth?

How can you say they were unlucky? Complete tripe coming from your mouth. I was at the game and they played well. Hurney deserved to be sent off. They drew in normal time. Wicklow bate them in ET.

How is it "unlucky"?

You are a sh1t stirrer.

hurler on de ditch

Deise Hurler wrote: »

hurler on the ditch, why the chip on the shoulder. Maybe the management didn't pick you for the minor panel and you want to take revenge on here. Getting boring at this stage. Only ever heard good things about Joxer Burns and having taking part in a few of his training sessions in the alley in Ferrybank, i have always been impressed by him. Ray O Brien was not part of last years sonny walsh management team by the way. Time to move on.

chips i dont do ,no doubt doxer not joxer ,you might have meant to write jock strap im not sure ,anyway he [doxer] is a very good coach there is no doubting that ,and thats where he should concentrate ,management ?well i believe he should leave that to someone else he is NOT ABLE simple as, think i was a minor back in the eighties so its not revenge ,is it you are the minor who has limited ability and would like to arse lick your way into the panel,your still very young im guessing so when the next 20 years [and i use that term loosely ]passes and were still talking ,woulda, coulda, shoulda,and there is a great bunch of minors coming sure did,nt they get to the final of the tony forristal years ago,or sure there is still 6 of them lads minor next year and they got great experience tonight that 20 point beating will stand to them in the future ,straight talking is what i do ,its like asking Roy Keane for his opinion and listening to the answer in your own head, SAY WHAT YOU SEE ,

suitcasepink

mccarthy37 wrote: »

Anyone hear of the result between Waterford and Galway this evening in Rathkeale

I heard we won 1-27 to 4-16 But that it was played Friday night?

hurler on de ditch

deise_girl wrote: »

I heard we won 1-27 to 4-16 But that it was played Friday night?

YOUR RIGHT ABOUT SCORE any idea what team was out

Psychedelic

From Club Deise's Facebook page:

Mce Shanahan was great - 13pts (2 from play). Seamus 2pts, Mullane 2pts, T Ryan 3pts, Eoin Kelly 2pts, Eoin McGrath 1-0, Shane 1pt, O'Neill 1 pt, Gavin 1pt, Dean 2pts.

https://www.facebook.com/ClubDeiseTheWaterfordGaaSupportersClub

solarith

hardybuck wrote: »

Seized up in the injury time up there. Gary Hurney is the difference between those sides, with his experience I can't believe he was stupid enough to get involved in an off the ball with the linesman standing right next to him.

4 times in a year.

deisefolife

Clare are in the minor hurling final....the minor set up is a pile of dung.

we lost one game and were out. Clare lose their first game and get a second chance...

Bo**ox

seananigans

I just decided to book my holidays home to coincide with the first sunday in september, hope against hope,I think we can edge tipp just about (50/50 anyway) then if that happens,Cork should be no issue (most likely outcome) or maybe Dublin but don't think they will beat Clare,and we can't meet Clare again yet.

Bookies are giving Tipp +6 but I don't believe that for a second and think ourboys are looking so fresh they can take anyone right now.

We will see,anyhow looking forward to being Home again :-)

djfern84

solarith wrote: »

hardybuck wrote: »

Seized up in the injury time up there. Gary Hurney is the difference between those sides, with his experience I can't believe he was stupid enough to get involved in an off the ball with the linesman standing right next to him.

4 times in a year.[/Quote



4 times in a year post up the four times there please I'm pretty sure only Carlow and Wicklow since u seem to know it all

deisebhoy17

seananigans wrote: »

I just decided to book my holidays home to coincide with the first sunday in september, hope against hope,I think we can edge tipp just about (50/50 anyway) then if that happens,Cork should be no issue (most likely outcome) or maybe Dublin but don't think they will beat Clare,and we can't meet Clare again yet.

Bookies are giving Tipp +6 but I don't believe that for a second and think ourboys are looking so fresh they can take anyone right now.

We will see,anyhow looking forward to being Home again :-)

Youve been away too long I think. But shur who knows

deisebhoy17

deisefolife wrote: »

Clare are in the minor hurling final....the minor set up is a pile of dung.

we lost one game and were out. Clare lose their first game and get a second chance...

Bo**ox

Thats how the ball rolls. Clare beat us in the first round in 09 we turned around and won Munster beating them in he semis

Fentdog84

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

Thats how the ball rolls. Clare beat us in the first round in 09 we turned around and won Munster beating them in he semis

Clare had to win two tough matches. If we'd have lost to Clare, there's no guarantee we'd have beaten both Cork and Limerick anyway. Bit unlucky to draw Tipp away but thats the luck of the draw some years it goes for you, sometimes it dosent.

deisedude

Mod Note: Right lads, calm down a bit. Attack the post, not the poster

mccarthy37

deise_girl wrote: »

I heard we won 1-27 to 4-16 But that it was played Friday night?

Thanks for that, not a bad result if we could only reproduce that display against Tip we may not get the hiding we got last year. Anybody I have spoken to about our chances against Tipp are not very confident, it would really do a lot of damage to us if we receive another beating in a Munster Final. A repeat of 82,83 wold be a nightmare I really hope does not happen.

hurler on de ditch

mccarthy37 wrote: »

Thanks for that, not a bad result if we could only reproduce that display against Tip we may not get the hiding we got last year. Anybody I have spoken to about our chances against Tipp are not very confident, it would really do a lot of damage to us if we receive another beating in a Munster Final. A repeat of 82,83 wold be a nightmare I really hope does not happen.

this must be the most pessimistic post ever why bother words like ,,,,not ,bad,if,hiding,damage,nightmare,christ man get a grip firstly ,the brainless one is gone [a certain mr fitz] and his hare brained ideas on how a team should line out ,[we had the beatings of tipp before he came along ]think back to last year, clinton hennessey in goal,the brick full back dragged out to corner back by noel mc grath,jerome maher went in full back on hurler of the year lar,molumphy in the corner but dragged back out to half forward line ,leaving S Walsh on his own in ff line [1 forward against 4 tipp defenders]i could go on but sure you get the idea ,davy was absolutely useless at setting up teams ,this year stick 2 hurling ,hopefully no ridiculous tactics ,hurl them 15 versus 15 we have them beat,CMON THE DEISE

PTH2009

Since 2008 we have played tipp 4 times in the championship and have only 1 victory out of those games.

In the 2009 munster final we made a couple of defensive mistakes which cost us the match.

In the 2010 all Ireland semi final and the 2011 munster final we were completely played off the pitch. Were our tactics to blame for those defeats.

I think this year we will hopefully put up a good fight and not get a pasting again. I don't think we have the depth in the team to win and tipp have had 2 hard games against limerick and cork under there belts already, while we have had only one game.

Anyway this time 2 weeks we will know where we are at. A all Ireland quarter final against cork or dublin will be tough.

Anyone know will there be good covered stand tickets available online ?. The only sections available are blocks a and b.

Black Suir

Psychedelic wrote: »

From Club Deise's Facebook page:

Mce Shanahan was great - 13pts (2 from play). Seamus 2pts, Mullane 2pts, T Ryan 3pts, Eoin Kelly 2pts, Eoin McGrath 1-0, Shane 1pt, O'Neill 1 pt, Gavin 1pt, Dean 2pts.

https://www.facebook.com/ClubDeiseTheWaterfordGaaSupportersClub

Everyone rush out and do the lotto for Wednesday.

Black Suir

deisefolife wrote: »

Clare are in the minor hurling final....the minor set up is a pile of dung.

we lost one game and were out. Clare lose their first game and get a second chance...

Bo**ox

For what its worth, I think we should go back to the old system, beaten and you are out.

Black Suir

deise_girl wrote: »

I heard we won 1-27 to 4-16 But that it was played Friday night?

Leaving in goals still seem to be a problem. Not a good thing to be happening coming up to a Munster Final. We know what Tipp can do if he allow them the chance.

Black Suir

PTH2009 wrote: »

Since 2008 we have played tipp 4 times in the championship and have only 1 victory out of those games.

In the 2009 munster final we made a couple of defensive mistakes which cost us the match.

In the 2010 all Ireland semi final and the 2011 munster final we were completely played off the pitch. Were our tactics to blame for those defeats.

I think this year we will hopefully put up a good fight and not get a pasting again. I don't think we have the depth in the team to win and tipp have had 2 hard games against limerick and cork under there belts already, while we have had only one game.

Anyway this time 2 weeks we will know where we are at. A all Ireland quarter final against cork or dublin will be tough.

Anyone know will there be good covered stand tickets available online ?. The only sections available are blocks a and b.

Go through the clubs. Its only right that they get the best, well second best behind those from Cork with their seats bought, and a few cronies that will get good tickets.

Mountainlad

djfern84 wrote: »

solarith wrote: »

4 times in a year.

4 times in a year post up the four times there please I'm pretty sure only Carlow and Wicklow since u seem to know it all

Limerick as well last year, and it was a really stupid thing to get sent off for (though I guess most things are).

I'm not going to attack Hurney, but I hope (and am sure he did) he apologised because the rest of the lads deserve as much, especially when he is one of the leaders of the team. Fairplay to them, Wicklow scoring late to force extra time up in the fortress of Aughrim, not bad at all. Scarce comfort to them I'm sure though.

mccarthy37

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

this must be the most pessimistic post ever why bother words like ,,,,not ,bad,if,hiding,damage,nightmare,christ man get a grip firstly ,the brainless one is gone [a certain mr fitz] and his hare brained ideas on how a team should line out ,[we had the beatings of tipp before he came along ]think back to last year, clinton hennessey in goal,the brick full back dragged out to corner back by noel mc grath,jerome maher went in full back on hurler of the year lar,molumphy in the corner but dragged back out to half forward line ,leaving S Walsh on his own in ff line [1 forward against 4 tipp defenders]i could go on but sure you get the idea ,davy was absolutely useless at setting up teams ,this year stick 2 hurling ,hopefully no ridiculous tactics ,hurl them 15 versus 15 we have them beat,CMON THE DEISE

I don't feel confident but you have lifted my spirits

hurler on de ditch

PTH2009 wrote: »

Since 2008 we have played tipp 4 times in the championship and have only 1 victory out of those games.

In the 2009 munster final we made a couple of defensive mistakes which cost us the match.

In the 2010 all Ireland semi final and the 2011 munster final we were completely played off the pitch. Were our tactics to blame for those defeats.

I think this year we will hopefully put up a good fight and not get a pasting again. I don't think we have the depth in the team to win and tipp have had 2 hard games against limerick and cork under there belts already, while we have had only one game.

Anyway this time 2 weeks we will know where we are at. A all Ireland quarter final against cork or dublin will be tough.

Anyone know will there be good covered stand tickets available online ?. The only sections available are blocks a and b.

all those games Davy was in charge ,we were well able for them before he came along