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Are there still adults out there who don't/can't drive?
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There's different kinds of lazy though - in this case it can relate to someone being to lazy to take the time/effort/money to pick up a new skill, not being adverse to exercise.
Ah, I see, I'm just a different kind of lazy :rolleyes:
You should perhaps consider that there may, as in my case, perfectly legitimate reasons why I don't want to drive. And an aversion to learning new skills certainly doesn't apply to me as I like learning new things, as I'm a big believer in autonomy and self-reliance. But only ones I feel I will have a use for, otherwise why waste the time effort and money on something that can be put to better use elsewhere?Speaking as someone who didn't get his full license until 28, I think for most people it is a combination of laziness and fear if you don't express any interest into learning after a certain age (though there are exceptions). That was certainly the case for me anyway, at least I admitted it.
As I've said, I like learning new skills and don't see age as being a barrier to that. I'm not in some sort of self-denial about being fearful of driving, if I want to learn to drive I will do so and unlike some inept idiots I see on the road every day who I can't believe have ever passed a test (e.g. I walk or cycle through a roundabout every day and pitifully few Irish drivers seem to know the rules of how to drive through one and who has the right of way), I'll take the time to learn properly so that I'm not a menace to others on the roads.The thing is people who don't drive have no frame of reference for the feeling of independence and freedom it can give. Of course you would be perfectly happy taking a bus/train if you can't drive - unless you have a chauffeur you probably don't have much choice!
No chauffeur, no
I see your point but I sometimes ride passenger with a friend of mine who drives (not chauffeuring me around before you say it! sometimes I head off with him to Dublin or down to Waterford if he's going there himself anyway) and any feeling of independence he has by having a car seems to be more than offset by the costs and labour involved in owning and running the thing, if what he tells me is anything to go by.
Where's the freedom in having to work harder to pay for tax, insurance, maintenance, NCT, petrol etc. when I can simply work less and have more free time to do whatever I want, or put all that money to better use elsewhere and not have to worry about paying for a car I don't need?
Not being reliant on a car to me gives me more independence and freedom and if the day comes when I do actually need one I won't do so willingly.
And BTW I *gasp* actually like taking the train or bus (most of the time anyway, unless I have to stand in the rain waiting for a bus), but then car ownership is not problem free either-breakdowns, traffic, cost etc.
I don't see public transport as an inferior form of transport to the car. It suits my needs fine.0 -
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had absolutely no motivation to learn for years 'cause was working in town and on a good bus route so didn't see the point of spending money i didn't have on it. i'm now in my late 20's and trying desperately to pass test but still find it very nerve wracking. the majority of my mates still wouldn't be able to drive or have ever sat the theory test. if they are learning, it's only because Important Life Stuff like jobs which require travelling and babies are entering the frame. it's kind of mad how apathetic we've all been towards the whole thing. the older i get, the more i realise how utterly frustrating it is to not have the independence of a car and get pissed off with myself for not being able to get certain places without finding a lift.
the few mates who do drive tend not to be pestered into acting as chauffeurs unless someone's moving house or something, which is good, at least. unfortunately i can't say the same for my poor mum
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You know that learning to drive does not automatically make u dependant on a car!!! I've got a car but I don't rely on it - I still luas to work and cycle the odd day too. My car gives me another level of freedom for my evenings and weekends, saves me so much time when going places, visiting friends and family ... its all about making the most out of my precious free time rather wasting it at busstops. I also really enjoy driving, so my car is a source of enjoyment in itself 0
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ShadowHearth wrote: »Alot of people from Dublin are a bit deluded.
Dublin is the only place in Ireland that has some sort of public transport. Everywhere else it's a joke.
I work in hotel which is 8 miles outside of town, from where i live. There is no public transport to get me there. Taxi 2x times per day will cost me a fortune.
Even better: I have to be at work for 6:00 in the morning, but from next week from 5:00 as it's very busy.
My car is not luxury, but a must have item!
A few fellas at work have no driving licenses, which is stupid. In small towns car is a must.
How about cycling to work? 8 miles to work and then home is easily doable on a bike. You'd save yourself loads of money and stay fit at the same time
Or if not an bicycle get yourself an electric bicycle or a scooter or motorbike. Much cheaper to run than a car.0 -
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At six in the morning during winter I wouldn't fancy an eight mile cycle.Greentopia wrote: »How about cycling to work? 8 miles to work and then home is easily doable on a bike. You'd save yourself loads of money and stay fit at the same time
Or if not an bicycle get yourself an electric bicycle or a scooter or motorbike. Much cheaper to run than a car.0 -
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Greentopia wrote: »How about cycling to work? 8 miles to work and then home is easily doable on a bike. You'd save yourself loads of money and stay fit at the same time
Or if not an bicycle get yourself an electric bicycle or a scooter or motorbike. Much cheaper to run than a car.
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At six in the morning during winter I wouldn't fancy an eight mile cycle.
Wimp
seriously though millions of people in other colder countries cycle to work every day in the winter through freezing temperatures, snow and ice-Denmark, Germany for example. We have it very mild here in comparison (last winters snow being the exception). And a bit of rain is easy to deal with-just stick on a rain mac.
For exceptionally bad weather he could still get the taxi to work. People make a big deal about rain here and use it as an excuse not to cycle more to work but it actually rains a lot fewer days in this country than people realise.
From Met Eireann website:
"The general impression is that it rains quite a lot of the time in Ireland but in fact two out of three hourly observations will not report any measurable rainfall."
and:
"Unlike the rain in many other countries, especially in the tropics, average hourly rainfall amounts in Ireland are quite low, ranging from 1 to 2mm. Short-term rates can of course be much higher: for example, an hourly total of 10mm is not uncommon and totals of 15 to 20mm in an hour may be expected to occur once in 5 years. Hourly totals exceeding 25mm are rare in this country and when they do occur they are usually associated with heavy thunderstorms."
Heavy wind can be more of a problem on a bike (but unless it's a storm it's still doable) I find but then it depends also where you live in the country too...0
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