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Timber frame houses from germany

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  • 20-08-2011 8:12pm
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    frozenbanana
    Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭


    Hi

    I'm looking for suppliers/builders of German timber frame houses. So far I was able to finde only one - does anyone have any leads?

    Thanks in advance
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    16hill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24 ✭16hill


    why german do you think it will work out cheaper


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    beyondpassive
    Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭beyondpassive


    Had experience with an excellent supplier which translates as Ox house in 2009. However use Irish timber frame suppliers now instead, with better outcomes. Have you seen the Grand designs where they imported kit houses and timber frame from Germany?


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    frozenbanana
    Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭frozenbanana


    16hill wrote: »
    why german do you think it will work out cheaper

    Not really.We had three contractors (one of them is gfs brother) look at our plans and they all said to go for german or swedish, so she made her mind up and I think it would be stupid to ignore professional advice as well. They seem to have much better reputation
    beyondpassive wrote: »
    Had experience with an excellent supplier which translates as Ox house in 2009. However use Irish timber frame suppliers now instead, with better outcomes. Have you seen the Grand designs where they imported kit houses and timber frame from Germany?

    I haven't actually, I'll try to find it somewhere. What was the outcome anyway?


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    sas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭sas


    frozenbanana wrote: »
    Not really.We had three contractors (one of them is gfs brother) look at our plans and they all said to go for german or swedish, so she made her mind up and I think it would be stupid to ignore professional advice as well. They seem to have much better reputation



    I haven't actually, I'll try to find it somewhere. What was the outcome anyway?

    There are a couple of Irish TF companies doing excellant work. I'll pm the names to you.

    The stereotype of german companies is all that is. My airtightness guy is german and he has stated that the are some very good companies in germany, there are also a load of them turning out absolutel crap.

    You will also pay considerably more for the german companies too. If something goes wrong don't assume they'll come running to fix it.


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    dutch1
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    sas wrote: »

    You will also pay considerably more for them too. If something goes wrong don't assume they'll come running to fix it.

    Buy Irish, Quality is there & so is the support. In the long run after factoring in Freight/additional taxes/problems arising onsite etc etc. You might as well of buying locally from a reputable dealer.


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    sas
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    dutch1 wrote: »
    Buy Irish, Quality is there & so is the support. In the long run after factoring in Freight/additional taxes/problems arising onsite etc etc. You might as well of buying locally from a reputable dealer.

    I've corrected my post as apparently it wasn't clear.

    I support specific Irish TF companies. The german ones will be considerably more expensive before everything you've mentioned above, let alone once it's included.


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    beyondpassive
    Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭beyondpassive


    PM sent with names of 3 Irish/NI next generation timber frame companies and 2 budget options ( hopefully they correspond with SAS)


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    galwaytt
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    Buy Irish.

    It's possible to meet & exceed 'German' standards here, if you use the right people.

    And, from a practical perspective, on an even-keel for quality, Irish supplier will be cheaper - have you seen how much it costs to transport a whole house...?

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    tricky D
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    <SNIP> used to have some relationship with Coillte which changed in 08 to what I'm not sure.




    Mod edit: Recommendations by PM only please. Thanks.


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    AAW
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    try out latvian site <SNIP> google translator will help you with language. they are exported from norway, sweden, latvia, to western europe, so that means they are cheaper in east and quality is unbeatable. range of products is endless...... and DO NOT BUILD IT YOURSELF, OR TRUST KNOWN BUILDERS. those houses are science, and i can guarantee you need spec from east...



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    frozenbanana
    Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭frozenbanana


    Thanks for the links tp all who PMd me, sent few quote request, I;m actually gonna reconsider the german thing


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    badger81
    Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭badger81


    beyondpassive wrote: »
    PM sent with names of 3 Irish/NI next generation timber frame companies and 2 budget options ( hopefully they correspond with SAS)

    can you send me on that pm too,
    thanks in advance
    badge


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    I forgot to add: with an Irish supplier, you'll have a warranty that's easily enforceable, as well.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    lovelyhurler
    Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭lovelyhurler


    Frozenbanana,

    Just stumbled upon this forum by accident.
    The Grand Designs program featured a well known german company - Huf-Haus - building (assembling) a house somewhere in the UK.
    They did an excellent job. If you can find the program it is well worth watching (if only for ideas).


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    badger81
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    lovelyhurler wrote: »
    Frozenbanana,

    Just stumbled upon this forum by accident.
    The Grand Designs program featured a well known german company - Huf-Haus - building (assembling) a house somewhere in the UK.
    They did an excellent job. If you can find the program it is well worth watching (if only for ideas).

    what series/episode is this please?


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    lovelyhurler
    Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭lovelyhurler


    Badger,

    Just found it. It's Series 4 episode 2.
    You should be able to view it on the 4OD web viewer that Channel 4 have.


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    sas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭sas


    There is nothing to be learned from watching that episode. That company is not typical of german construction companies. They are considered a "Rolls Royce" solution in Germany, let alone here.

    Budget in excess of a million required.

    Don't get me wrong, I happen to really like that episode but don't base your expectations on it.


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    sas wrote: »
    There is nothing to be learned from watching that episode. That company is not typical of german construction companies. They are considered a "Rolls Royce" solution in Germany, let alone here.

    Budget in excess of a million required.

    Don't get me wrong, I happen to really like that episode but don't base your expectations on it.

    ...ah now, I wouldn't say 'nothing' to be learnt.........if nothing else, at least they used a raft foundation. You won't see them building on strip foundations.......

    ...outside of that, there's nothing they're doing in that episode (which I love too, btw), which can't be done here. And, like you said, all the 'beautifulness' has to be paid for by someone...........

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    Do-more
    Registered Users Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    My parents in law lived in a Huf in Germany for 9 years.

    IMO they are not good design. The space utilisation was very poor because of the roof design and all those exposed glulam beams are just dirt catchers and a nightmare to keep clean.

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    sas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭sas


    Do-more wrote: »
    My parents in law lived in a Huf in Germany for 9 years.

    IMO they are not good design. The space utilisation was very poor because of the roof design and all those exposed glulam beams are just dirt catchers and a nightmare to keep clean.

    Ridiculously expensive and impractical, fantastic!


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    YouTookMyName
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    Build a block house. :p


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    BigGeorge
    Registered Users Posts: 473 ✭✭BigGeorge


    There are a number of excellent TF firms based both here & in NI who has good experience in low energy / passive house construction techniques. These companies are better used to deal with irish concerns ( both real & imanary), real reference customers, are not agents who will leave in a hurry and have a good name to protect. They will work out 30-50% less expensive than the comparable german or swedish alternatives. Am just finishing my house build with a NI timber frame company.


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    anjisbuild
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    beyondpassive wrote: »
    PM sent with names of 3 Irish/NI next generation timber frame companies and 2 budget options ( hopefully they correspond with SAS)
    Can you also PM me names and budget options please. Got planning in May but still have not made up mind on build type...Thanks


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    anjisbuild
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭anjisbuild


    BigGeorge wrote: »
    There are a number of excellent TF firms based both here & in NI who has good experience in low energy / passive house construction techniques. These companies are better used to deal with irish concerns ( both real & imanary), real reference customers, are not agents who will leave in a hurry and have a good name to protect. They will work out 30-50% less expensive than the comparable german or swedish alternatives. Am just finishing my house build with a NI timber frame company.
    Would you please PM me the name of the NI TF company - I got a quote from a TF company in NI but dont know anyone who has gone with them. Thanks


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    thebigredmachin
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭thebigredmachin


    anjisbuild wrote: »
    BigGeorge wrote: »
    ...Am just finishing my house build with a NI timber frame company.
    Would you please PM me the name of the NI TF company - I got a quote from a TF company in NI but dont know anyone who has gone with them. Thanks

    Could you pm it to me too?

    Also could someone pm me the original recommended 3 tf suppliers also?

    Cheers!


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    sboyle
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭sboyle


    hi can you pm the name of the NI company you used i know this thread is old but i'm in the process of looking for a company and any help would be appreciated thanks


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