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weed lickers what ye think of them?
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21-08-2011 4:58pm#1
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jasus lads, that's overkill.
I did 10 acres of medium strength rushes (They were heavy last year but I topped them in June) a few weeks ago. The licker tank holds 60 litres, but I only put 30 litres into in. Used 2 litres of Gallup with it. I had an excellent kill within 10 days. I'd be pushing the button about every 50 to 60 seconds and travelling fairly slow. Would always use a few squirts of washing up liquid in the tank. Not too much or your tank will fill with foam. Washing up liquid does 2 things - helps the mix to stick to the carpet and not drip on the ground and its very visible on the roller which helps you see when you need to press the pump button again. It will also help the mix to stick to the rushes. In total, the gallup for the mix cost me €6.
johnboy6930, 15ltrs of water to 25ltrs of gallup is almost 1 to 2 in ratio.
The Gallup label says that a kill can be achieved by spraying gallup in a mixture of 1 litre of Gallup with up to 200 litres of water. At 15 litres of water to 1 litre of gallup, I think I'm doing ok - although I suspect that I'm getting a much slower kill than you but at a much cheaper price
Edit: I think Gallup 360 only comes in 20 litre drums???0 -
jasus lads, that's overkill.
I did 10 acres of medium strength rushes (They were heavy last year but I topped them in June) a few weeks ago. The licker tank holds 60 litres, but I only put 30 litres into in. Used 2 litres of Gallup with it. I had an excellent kill within 10 days. I'd be pushing the button about every 50 to 60 seconds and travelling fairly slow. Would always use a few squirts of washing up liquid in the tank. Not too much or your tank will fill with foam. Washing up liquid does 2 things - helps the mix to stick to the carpet and not drip on the ground and its very visible on the roller which helps you see when you need to press the pump button again. It will also help the mix to stick to the rushes. In total, the gallup for the mix cost me €6.
johnboy6930, 15ltrs of water to 25ltrs of gallup is almost 1 to 2 in ratio.
The Gallup label says that a kill can be achieved by spraying gallup in a mixture of 1 litre of Gallup with up to 200 litres of water. At 15 litres of water to 1 litre of gallup, I think I'm doing ok - although I suspect that I'm getting a much slower kill than you but at a much cheaper price
Edit: I think Gallup 360 only comes in 20 litre drums???
Here's a test for you. Spray a SMALL batch of weeds with a very highly concentrated mix of the appropriate herbicide. Then spray another patch with the recommended mix aor near enough.
Which patch do you expect will see the quickest and best kill off?
Oddly enough, the patch with the very high concentration mix, will suffer only a minor set back
and the other patch, will keel over:P
Reason being that the outer surface of the plant, needs to absorb and transfer the herbicide to the inner core and from there to the roots, to effect a good kill.
By putting very highly concentrated stuff on the plant, you almost instantly kill the very outer surface, and kill off its capacity to absorb and transfer the bad stuff to the inside and on to the roots.
With the plant still healty on the inside and in the roots, it soon regenerates and replaces the outer core, and the plant lives on:cool:
The other patch, slowley absorbs the herbicide, transfers it to the inner core an to the roots. The plant is now seriously compromised, and dies quickly.
That explaination was given to me by a guy who works for one of the manufacturers.
Believe it or not:o0 -
Here's a test for you. Spray a SMALL batch of weeds with a very highly concentrated mix of the appropriate herbicide. Then spray another patch with the recommended mix aor near enough.
Which patch do you expect will see the quickest and best kill off?
Oddly enough, the patch with the very high concentration mix, will suffer only a minor set back and the other patch, will keel over:P
Reason being that the outer surface of the plant, needs to absorb and transfer the herbicide to the inner core and from there to the roots, to effect a good kill.
By putting very highly concentrated stuff on the plant, you almost instantly kill the very outer surface, and kill off its capacity to absorb and transfer the bad stuff to the inside and on to the roots.
With the plant still healty on the inside and in the roots, it soon regenerates and replaces the outer core, and the plant lives on:cool:
The other patch, slowley absorbs the herbicide, transfers it to the inner core an to the roots. The plant is now seriously compromised, and dies quickly.
That explaination was given to me by a guy who works for one of the manufacturers.
Believe it or not:o
Very intresting ,when spot spraying i am using 300 ml roundup in 50l water0 -
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jasus lads, that's overkill.
I did 10 acres of medium strength rushes (They were heavy last year but I topped them in June) a few weeks ago. The licker tank holds 60 litres, but I only put 30 litres into in. Used 2 litres of Gallup with it. I had an excellent kill within 10 days. I'd be pushing the button about every 50 to 60 seconds and travelling fairly slow. Would always use a few squirts of washing up liquid in the tank. Not too much or your tank will fill with foam. Washing up liquid does 2 things - helps the mix to stick to the carpet and not drip on the ground and its very visible on the roller which helps you see when you need to press the pump button again. It will also help the mix to stick to the rushes. In total, the gallup for the mix cost me €6.
johnboy6930, 15ltrs of water to 25ltrs of gallup is almost 1 to 2 in ratio.
The Gallup label says that a kill can be achieved by spraying gallup in a mixture of 1 litre of Gallup with up to 200 litres of water. At 15 litres of water to 1 litre of gallup, I think I'm doing ok - although I suspect that I'm getting a much slower kill than you but at a much cheaper price
Edit: I think Gallup 360 only comes in 20 litre drums???
the rushes we spray are brown in about 8 days.and about 15 to 20 day later if you grab the rushes you can pull them straight out of the root. we hear that lads around here but it out with no water at all.0 -
johnboy6930 wrote: »the rushes we spray are brown in about 8 days.and about 15 to 20 day later if you grab the rushes you can pull them straight out of the root. we hear that lads around here but it out with no water at all.
Same as that. My mix at 15 to 1 leaves rushes brown at 8 to 10 days (Longer in wet or cold weather). It just seems like overkill to put it on at such a low mix rate.
I don't think you could use gallup without diluting it. Try leaving a teaspoon full in the open air for 10 minutes. It will turn into a white crystal substance. Imagine trying to clean the nozzles of your licker after that 0 -
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