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Esoteric_

Marty McFly wrote: »

Yeh but we already have the same problem with drugs I myself smoked hash from every day at the age of 14, by legalizing drugs we could make it harder for underage kids to get there hands on drugs that are readily available, wit the tax made from the income of drugs a lot of the money could be pumped into better educating our own society on drugs use and dangers which would hopefully lead to people when they get older being more responsible with there use off all drugs.

All we have to do is look at other cultures relationship with alcohol compared to our own to show it ca be done,, it would take time and money but could be done.

Plus we already have huge amounts of drug addicts on our streets it can't get any worse.

It wouldn't be difficult for kids to get their hands on drugs, I was getting men to buy my mates booze when we were all 12-13. You'll always find one gobshíte willing to get served for you. At least with drugs being illegal, it's harder for kids to get a hold of them than it is for them to get a hold of vodka. I'm no angel, but I wasn't able to get my hands on any illegal drugs til I was about 17, and I live in an area absolutely full of drugs. If it were legal, no doubt I would have started earlier. I had what I'll call a 'problem' with prescription drugs at one point, a type of drug I firmly believe should be criminalized, but I'm certain that if drugs were available to me at a younger age, I'd have had a much bigger problem with them than I ever had with that prescription drug, because I could get my hands on them whenever and as often as I liked, once I found or paid an adult to get them.


There are loads of addicts on the street, yes, but with alcoholism, for example, there are many, MANY more addicts at home, who don't end up on the streets. I can think of 6 alcoholics off the top of my head who I am/was very close to, all of whom are functioning individuals. Drug addiction seems to lead to worse outcomes than alcoholism, but that's not to say it's as prevalent. I'm happy to go get statistics, but statistically, there are far many more alcoholics than drug addicts in Ireland. That, to me, says something.

P_1

Esoteric_ wrote: »

It wouldn't be difficult for kids to get their hands on drugs, I was getting men to buy my mates booze when we were all 12-13. You'll always find one gobshíte willing to get served for you. At least with drugs being illegal, it's harder for kids to get a hold of them than it is for them to get a hold of vodka. I'm no angel, but I wasn't able to get my hands on any illegal drugs til I was about 17, and I live in an area absolutely full of drugs. If it were legal, no doubt I would have started earlier. I had what I'll call a 'problem' with prescription drugs at one point, a type of drug I firmly believe should be criminalized, but I'm certain that if drugs were available to me at a younger age, I'd have had a much bigger problem with them than I ever had with that prescription drug, because I could get my hands on them whenever and as often as I liked, once I found or paid an adult to get them.


There are loads of addicts on the street, yes, but with alcoholism, for example, there are many, MANY more addicts at home, who don't end up on the streets. I can think of 6 alcoholics off the top of my head who I am/was very close to, all of whom are functioning individuals. Drug addiction seems to lead to worse outcomes than alcoholism, but that's not to say it's as prevalent. I'm happy to go get statistics, but statistically, there are far many more alcoholics than drug addicts in Ireland. That, to me, says something.

Personally I think its a societal issue with alcohol. It's too much of a black/white, all or nothing issue in Ireland at the moment. I mean look at peoples reactions if you go into a pub and just order a coke instead of a pint or a short.

Prohibition and the 'quit or die' approach seems not to have worked. Most things can have positive aspects provided that they are taken in moderation.

Marty McFly

Esoteric_ wrote: »

It wouldn't be difficult for kids to get their hands on drugs, I was getting men to buy my mates booze when we were all 12-13. You'll always find one gobshíte willing to get served for you. At least with drugs being illegal, it's harder for kids to get a hold of them than it is for them to get a hold of vodka. I'm no angel, but I wasn't able to get my hands on any illegal drugs til I was about 17, and I live in an area absolutely full of drugs. If it were legal, no doubt I would have started earlier. I had what I'll call a 'problem' with prescription drugs at one point, a type of drug I firmly believe should be criminalized, but I'm certain that if drugs were available to me at a younger age, I'd have had a much bigger problem with them than I ever had with that prescription drug, because I could get my hands on them whenever and as often as I liked, once I found or paid an adult to get them.


There are loads of addicts on the street, yes, but with alcoholism, for example, there are many, MANY more addicts at home, who don't end up on the streets. I can think of 6 alcoholics off the top of my head who I am/was very close to, all of whom are functioning individuals. Drug addiction seems to lead to worse outcomes than alcoholism, but that's not to say it's as prevalent. I'm happy to go get statistics, but statistically, there are far many more alcoholics than drug addicts in Ireland. That, to me, says something.

Well see that I guess depends on your surroundings and is down to the individual person experience but by 14 I could easily get my hands on hash, coke, e, speed etc it was probably more readily available to me than alcohol was .

Again I knew more people effected by drugs in my youth than I did alcohol as I said I guess it all comes down to individual experiences.

Plus I meant educating people on alcohol and drugs with no preference over the other .

Esoteric_

Marty McFly wrote: »

Well see that I guess depends on your surroundings and is down to the individual person experience but by 14 I could easily get my hands on hash, coke, e, speed etc it was probably more readily available to me than alcohol was .

Again I knew more people effected by drugs in my youth than I did alcohol as I said I guess it all comes down to individual experiences.
.

That's all just because you're from a kip.


*runs*

P_1

Marty McFly wrote: »

Plus I meant educating people on alcohol and drugs with no preference over the other .

That would be my preference too but sadly there are too many interest groups with too much power in most societies for such a neutral message to be widely presented which means its left to the individual to source the information themselves.

Please Kill Me

Evenin' all. Not long in...jeez that's a shitty day out there. Really not the ideal weather to be going door to door!! Watching NY Ink now, then shower, shave and bed. Another day of it tomorrow. :rolleyes:

Esoteric_

Please Kill Me wrote: »

Evenin' all. Not long in...jeez that's a shitty day out there. Really not the ideal weather to be going door to door!! Watching NY Ink now, then shower, shave and bed. Another day of it tomorrow. :rolleyes:

Believe me, I feel your pain! At least you can relax with the telly for a bit before bed.

I'm keeping an eye out for that tattoo nation docu-film to hit my local cinema, it's meant to get there around the day of my birthday.

P_1

Please Kill Me wrote: »

Evenin' all. Not long in...jeez that's a shitty day out there. Really not the ideal weather to be going door to door!! Watching NY Ink now, then shower, shave and bed. Another day of it tomorrow. :rolleyes:

Yeah its filthy out, went out to the driving range earlier and nearly froze my nads off

LucyLouLou

If anyone is interested there's a bit on scarification on E4 now, part of the body shocking show, will be on +1 in an hour.

Marty McFly

Its nearly d-day time for me im booked in with Remis for my third sitting on my movie piece on Wednesday and I have to decide on the final character to go in, I cant pick just one so hard , Iknow for some that will be mad but because this peice is about my love of films its more about the films than individuals if that makes sense, but I cant just pick one :eek:.

Esoteric_

Marty McFly wrote: »

Its nearly d-day time for me im booked in with Remis for my third sitting on my movie piece on Wednesday and I have to decide on the final character to go in, I cant pick just one so hard , Iknow for some that will be mad but because this peice is about my love of films its more about the films than individuals if that makes sense, but I cant just pick one :eek:.

Narrow it down to two, and get him to give you another appointment to tattoo right down your arse cheek and along your inner thigh, since your ribs are pretty much fully covered now. :pac:

Marty McFly

Esoteric_ wrote: »

Narrow it down to two, and get him to give you another appointment to tattoo right down your arse cheek and along your inner thigh, since your ribs are pretty much fully covered now. :pac:

Even narrowing it down to two will be hard, plus this one will cover my arse :pac:, I have Pvt Pile from Full Metal Jacket it so iconic and the Kubrick stare, De Niro or Joe Pesci from Goodfellas love that film and two my favorite actors, Hellboy, the Faun or the eye monster from Pans Labyrinth or Hellboy because I love both films especially the visuals of Del Toro and then Forest Gump well because its Forest Gump.

See have it well narrowed down :pac:.

Edit: its also trying to decide what will fit or contrast with what I already have, in Terminator old school action star and sci fi, and in Battle Royale world cinema and one my favorite films.

Esoteric_

Marty McFly wrote: »

Even narrowing it down to two will be hard, plus this one will cover my arse :pac:, I have Pvt Pile from Full Metal Jacket it so iconic and the Kubrick stare, De Niro or Joe Pesci from Goodfellas love that film and two my favorite actors, Hellboy, the Faun or the eye monster from Pans Labyrinth or Hellboy because I love both films especially the visuals of Del Toro and then Forest Gump well because its Forest Gump.

See have it well narrowed down :pac:.

Wait, it's literally going to cover your arse? I thought it was only going an inch or two down? Good luck to you driving home after that. :pac:

Ah well you know my opinion on them.

I want to get Forrest Gump tattooed now. Actually no. I want Bubba. The shrimp bloke. Damn, I need to watch that film again.

Please Kill Me

Marty McFly wrote: »

Even narrowing it down to two will be hard, plus this one will cover my arse :pac:, I have Pvt Pile from Full Metal Jacket it so iconic and the Kubrick stare, De Niro or Joe Pesci from Goodfellas love that film and two my favorite actors, Hellboy, the Faun or the eye monster from Pans Labyrinth or Hellboy because I love both films especially the visuals of Del Toro and then Forest Gump well because its Forest Gump.

See have it well narrowed down :pac:.

Edit: its also trying to decide what will fit or contrast with what I already have, in Terminator old school action star and sci fi, and in Battle Royale world cinema and one my favorite films.

Jaysus, what a choice!!! If I had to pick two, it'd be between Pesci and Pile. But that's just me.

Marty McFly

Esoteric_ wrote: »

Wait, it's literally going to cover your arse? I thought it was only going an inch or two down? Good luck to you driving home after that. :pac:

Ah well you know my opinion on them.

I want to get Forrest Gump tattooed now. Actually no. I want Bubba. The shrimp bloke. Damn, I need to watch that film again.

:pac: well yeh it already comes down to just above my waistline he can hardly make the next one that small .

Ha I know I will narrow it down still have a few days :pac:, but I know I would love all of them its just trying to decide which one most.

Esoteric_

Marty McFly wrote: »

:pac: well yeh it already comes down to just above my waistline he can hardly make the next one that small .

Ha I know I will narrow it down still have a few days :pac:, but I know I would love all of them its just trying to decide which one most.

So basically, when I demand you show me your new tattoo, instead of just yanking your top up, you'll have to pull your jocks down? That's not gonna be awkward at all. :pac:

Ah sure just get all of them.

Please Kill Me

Esoteric_ wrote: »

...instead of just yanking your top up, you'll have to pull your jocks down? That's not gonna be awkward at all. :pac:

Pfft, as if you'd mind!! :pac:

Watching Green Mile on Sky ScFi/Hor. Seen it a dozen times but it's a classic!

Esoteric_

Please Kill Me wrote: »

Pfft, as if you'd mind!! :pac:

Watching Green Mile on Sky ScFi/Hor. Seen it a dozen times but it's a classic!

I'm a virgin! :eek:


Fecking LOVE the Green Mile. One of my top 5 favourite films.

Marty McFly

Please Kill Me wrote: »

Jaysus, what a choice!!! If I had to pick two, it'd be between Pesci and Pile. But that's just me.

Trust you to pick the two psychos :pac:

But I do like the idea of them two a lot



I do also love Joe Pesci and his character in Goodfellas hardest part of that though is finding a truly iconic image of him or even a good psychotic one



Then there is Forest Gump



Looking at them three the Pvt Pyle one is so cool and creepy and so iconic hmmm.

Marty McFly

Please Kill Me wrote: »

Pfft, as if you'd mind!! :pac:

Watching Green Mile on Sky ScFi/Hor. Seen it a dozen times but it's a classic!

Green Mile what a film one them films you just never tire of watching .

@eso for that comment either your nose just grew a few mile or your going to burn in hell :P.

Esoteric_

Marty McFly wrote: »

Green Mile what a film one them films you just never tire of watching .

@eso for that comment either your nose just grew a few mile or your going to burn in hell :P.

I'm going to murder you...

Please Kill Me

Esoteric_ wrote: »

I'm a virgin! :eek:

BAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :pac:

Esoteric_ wrote: »

Fecking LOVE the Green Mile. One of my top 5 favourite films.

Yeah, it's class!

Marty McFly wrote: »

@eso for that comment either your nose just grew a few mile or your going to burn in hell :P.

Aye!

Esoteric_

Please Kill Me wrote: »

BAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :pac:



Yeah, it's class!



Aye!

I AM. I'm just recycled. Fcuk sake.

Please Kill Me

Esoteric_ wrote: »

I AM. I'm just recycled. Fcuk sake.

Yeah, WELL recycled!!! :eek:

*runs like fook*

:pac:

Esoteric_

Please Kill Me wrote: »

Yeah, WELL recycled!!! :eek:

*runs like fook*

:pac:

Scuse you! Only recycled like, 3 times ffs! I'm a lot more innocent than you lot seem to believe!

Orim

Marty something from Casino might work better for pesci. Same type of character but there's more psycho style shots.

Gun to the head I'd probably pick pile especially since he'll be so close to your gun.

Please Kill Me

Esoteric_ wrote: »

Scuse you! Only recycled like, 3 times ffs! I'm a lot more innocent than you lot seem to believe!

I believe ya.

Feck this. I'm wrecked. Gonna bed. Talk to ye, be safe out there tomorrow.

Esoteric_

Please Kill Me wrote: »

I believe ya.

Feck this. I'm wrecked. Gonna bed. Talk to ye, be safe out there tomorrow.

Sweet dreams, ya cnut. :pac:

Please Kill Me

Esoteric_ wrote: »

Sweet dreams, ya cnut. :pac:

Marty McFly

Orim wrote: »

Marty something from Casino might work better for pesci. Same type of character but there's more psycho style shots.

Gun to the head I'd probably pick pile especially since he'll be so close to your gun.

Yeh I tired casino its still hard to get a god clean image of him looking psychotic.

:pac::pac: do like your reasoning on PVT Pyle though.