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Get rid of the angelus?

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    #122
    Alter-Ego
    Registered Users Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    CardBordWindow wrote: »
    But then the six-one news would have to change it's name!!
    They could just replace it with a minute of Nyan Cat.


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    #123
    Badly Drunk Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I don't understand the major animosity against the Angelus, especially these days, now that the religious imagery is fairly much gone.

    Where are all the threads condemning Songs Of Praise on BBC1 or Sunday Service (or whatever it's called) on RTE every Sunday? The Angelus lasts for a minute. Is that so hard to deal with?


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    #124
    hatrickpatrick
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    Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »
    I don't understand the major animosity against the Angelus, especially these days, now that the religious imagery is fairly much gone.

    Where are all the threads condemning Songs Of Praise on BBC1 or Sunday Service (or whatever it's called) on RTE every Sunday? The Angelus lasts for a minute. Is that so hard to deal with?

    It's the principle behind it. In a secular state, the national broadcaster should not favour or endorse any particular religion.


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    #125
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Leave it. It's another excuse I can use for not paying for a tv licence


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    #126
    Jimoslimos
    Registered Users Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Meh, couldn't care less, its probably the only piece of original programming on Irish tv.

    Any chance we could sell the rights off to Endemol or the like and see what they can do with it. Celebrity Angelus anyone??


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    #127
    robindch
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    optogirl wrote: »
    It is not a religious programme, it's a call to prayer.
    Prayers aren't religious any more?

    Must have missed the note from god on that one.


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    #128
    foxyboxer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    better than 60 seconds of

    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?

    :rolleyes:


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    #129
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    better than 60 seconds of

    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?
    S'up John?
    S'up Edward?

    :rolleyes:
    I actually prefer that


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    #130
    starlit
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    Bong be gone!


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    #131
    Pace2008
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    robindch wrote: »
    Prayers aren't religious any more?

    Must have missed the note from god on that one.
    I think her point is that it's not just half an hour of Church music for the aurally retarded, it's a message that Catholic Ireland should stop what it's doing and spare a few moments in reverence of their Lord, and as such is a step above a simple program with religious content.


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    #132
    Paarse Krokodil
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    Ohh we've so totally moved on

    We're so past that old stuff we used to do.

    In fact we do everything we can the opposite way now just to spite the past.

    When we build a house now we start with the roof, windows, then walls, last we insert a foundation under the completed walls. Simply because thats *NOT* how we used to do things and technology has made this possible

    During the tiger it was all about buying big slap up houses and cars and consumer goods to help us forget about the past but now in recessionary times we must look for cheaper ways to banish any relic of the past so we turn to bashing religion


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    #133
    Aldebaran
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    Paarse Krokodil wrote: »
    When we build a house now we start with the roof, windows, then walls, last we insert a foundation under the completed walls. Simply because thats *NOT* how we used to do things and technology has made this possible

    I'm interested in learning more about this reverse house-building technology...


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    #134
    Paarse Krokodil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭Paarse Krokodil


    Aldebaran wrote: »
    I'm interested in learning more about this reverse house-building technology...

    Well ya see robots stand on top of each other and hold up the roof tiles, and so on while another crew of robots puts stuff under it. Foundations are done section by section a robot digs under the completed wall like a dog and then pours some concrete in after


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    #135
    ScumLord
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    Hannah2011 wrote: »
    I would like to keep the angelus, I like the tradition of it, it reminds me of home. It's one minute of the day that I realize...okay it's 6pm.
    So you like it because it's always been there and you don't own a watch or have any other way of telling what time of day it is?

    If it was up to me it would be gone, it's pointless cap tipping to the catholic church, overall I don't really care I got rid of my TV years ago.


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    #136
    KeithAFC
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    robindch wrote: »
    Prayers aren't religious any more?

    Must have missed the note from god on that one.
    Is prayer the same thing as religion?


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    #137
    Paparazzo
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Is prayer the same thing as religion?

    No. Is it religious? Yes


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    #138
    KeithAFC
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    Paparazzo wrote: »
    No. Is it religious? Yes
    Even if non religious people pray?


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    #139
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Even if non religious people pray?
    How does that work?


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    #140
    Badly Drunk Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    It's the principle behind it. In a secular state, the national broadcaster should not favour or endorse any particular religion.


    So we're living in a secular state now, are we? When did that happen? ;)

    What about the other religious programmes on television that actually show religious ceremonies? Why aren't they offensive?

    (By the way, I'm not a believer in God so is not as if I'm trying to defend a religion that brain-washed me from a young age.)


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    #141
    jacksprat
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    I used to think it was called the six-one news because it was broadcast at one o' clock and six clock..........well i'm an idiot


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    #142
    Sarah?
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    It should be removed, the poll shows that the large majority of us want it gone, and we live in a democracy.

    It's not right to have one religious tune/prayer on national television and no other. Completely unfair to every other belief in the country, and there are many people with differing religions and(/or) beliefs here.


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    #143
    KeithAFC
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    How does that work?
    Is religious all belief systems? I don't know a great deal about this.:D


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    #144
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »
    What about the other religious programmes on television that actually show religious ceremonies? Why aren't they offensive?
    Bit of a difference between a program and the angelus. One is a program about a topic and the other is a big bell ringing to remind Catholics to pray.
    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Is religious all belief systems? I don't know a great deal about this.:D
    Religious, spiritual it's all the same to me. Just like Christians and Muslims are pretty much the same thing to me.


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    #145
    Freddie59
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    Sarah? wrote: »
    It should be removed, the poll shows that the large majority of us want it gone, and we live in a democracy.

    Emmm, a few people posting on a message board does not represent 'the majority'.:rolleyes:


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    #146
    Freddie59
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    Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »
    So we're living in a secular state now

    In a country where the majority are Catholic - as pointed out earlier in this thread.:)


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    #147
    ScumLord
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    Freddie59 wrote: »
    In a country where the majority are Catholic - as pointed out earlier in this thread.:)
    Lapse Catholics that barely go to church and are probably going to hell if held to the exact standards of the church.

    Let the government enact a strict Catholic regime and see how many people actually want to live a Catholic life.


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    #148
    Sarah?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭Sarah?


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Emmm, a few people posting on a message board does not represent 'the majority'.:rolleyes:

    Of course not, but the majority of us don't pause, and look thoughtfully upwards at 6.00pm every day, yet RTE feel the need to show people doing exactly that, even though a lot of us don't want to watch it.


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    #149
    Ghost Buster
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    Lapse Catholics that barely go to church and are probably going to hell if held to the exact standards of the church.

    Let the government enact a strict Catholic regime and see how many people actually want to live a Catholic life.

    Now thats a poll waiting to happen... tempted....hmmmmmm:)


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    #150
    RichieC
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Even if non religious people pray?

    you mean hope, not pray. :rolleyes:


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    #151
    Ghost Buster
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    Freddie59 wrote: »
    In a country where the majority are Catholic - as pointed out earlier in this thread.:)

    A country where a bare and dwindling majority call them selves catholic (even though they dont observe much of catholicism) because of a ritual their parents carried out upon them when a few months old... yeah..:rolleyes:


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