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How clean do we need to leave apartment when moving out?

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  • 22-08-2011 1:47am
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    Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭


    hey guys,

    we're moving out in ten days and just wondering how clean we need to leave the place?
    When we got it it looked superficially clean... but after moving in the oven needed a clean and the floors hadn't been mopped in ages.

    So when we leave we were going to do the usual, hoover, mop, bathrooms, bedrooms etc and surfaces. wipe down of cupboards, microwave and fridge but the oven is filthy.

    do you think they'd even notice - or worse case scenario could they deduct much off the deposit? its a letting agent.

    thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    Leave it as clean as when you moved in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭odds_on


    Was there an entry inventory (possibly with pictures) stating the condition of the property and furniture etc when you moved in? It should have been signed by you.
    If there wasn't then the landlord cannot prove that the property is not in the condition (less normal wear and tear) as at the start of the tenancy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭not even wrong


    There is no legal obligation on you to clean the property before moving out. The landlord cannot withold your deposit if the property is not clean (only if there is actual damage beyond normal wear and tear or unpaid rent). In particular there is no obligation on you to pay for a professional cleaning service, which is one that many landlords try on.

    Regardless of the legal obligations above, the expected behaviour for a tenant is to leave the place in the same state as you would expect to move into it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭Penguino


    Ask yourself "How clean would you like someone to leave your property after letting?"

    It's not a case of getting one over your landlord its about common decency


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    blahblah06 wrote: »
    Leave it as clean as when you moved in

    Have only once moved into a place that was clean to a respectable level. If I left places the way they were when I moved in, I'd probably lose even more of deposits.

    Also, all the landlords were full of **** regarding how clean the place was.
    Example: Oven filthy when you move in, you move out and get told that it was sparkling when you moved in.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭irlirishkev


    jillyb wrote: »
    ... but after moving in the oven needed a clean..

    So when we leave we were going to do the usual, <snip> but the oven is filthy.

    do you think they'd even notice - or worse case scenario could they deduct much off the deposit? its a letting agent.

    thanks

    Ah give the oven a clean. The last tenants obviously either didn't give a crap, in which case don't stoop to their level; or they couldn't get it clean, in which case at least give it a try! Think of the next tenants to move in :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 470 ✭✭JoePie


    We left the place in better nick than when we moved in. Only moved out last Thursday. Took about 2 hours to defrost the fridge, give everything a clean and scrub down the bathroom. Didn't bother hoovering or mopping though. Or cleaning windows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    Leave it clean and take dated pictures before you go


  • Registered Users Posts: 719 ✭✭✭jsd1004


    There is no legal obligation on you to clean the property before moving out. The landlord cannot withold your deposit if the property is not clean (only if there is actual damage beyond normal wear and tear or unpaid rent). In particular there is no obligation on you to pay for a professional cleaning service, which is one that many landlords try on.

    Regardless of the legal obligations above, the expected behaviour for a tenant is to leave the place in the same state as you would expect to move into it.

    What **** advice. Legalities or not you hand back your apartment without cleaning it and you will pay. Filth is not included as normal wear and tear.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    jsd1004 wrote: »
    What **** advice. Legalities or not you hand back your apartment without cleaning it and you will pay. Filth is not included as normal wear and tear.

    on the other hand, anyone other than a slum-landlord will be giving the place a deep clean, and probably doing some decoration, before seeking to re-let the property. as a landlord, while i would be a bit pee'd off to discover a filthy oven, i know that its something i would be planning to clean (properly) anyway before i thought about releasing the property to new tenants.

    if tenants left the place genuinely unclean i would mention it if they sought a reference from me, but its not the departing tenants responsibility to get the property to a marketable standard - thats the landlords job.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭jillyb


    hey thanks for replies,

    We got no inventory etc. We plan to clean the place & wip down fridge & oven door. Hopefully they wont scrutinise it. The place will end up looking cleaner than the way we go it.

    I'll take pics of the place before we go and fingers crossed we'll get deposit back. Im not pushed if they end up deducting a bit for the oven- just not going to tackle it!!


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