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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭tryfix


    So Ruler Of the World is off on his travels again. This time he leaves France to stand in Italy where his fee will be the same €5,000 as it was in France. While I feel that he never got a fair shake at Coolmore I think that this is a great move for him.

    Coolmore's dud stallion Magician has been in Italy where he managed to cover 140 mares this year, a far cry from the crop of 19 2yos that Ruler Of the World has to represent him this year.

    If a dud like Magician can cover 140 mares then a G1 producing stallion like Ruler Of The World will have a successful career in Italy.

    Another potential Coolmore stallion Battleground ( War Front x Found ) who never quite realised his full racing potential is now off to a stallion career in Turkey.


    Of the first crop Stallions the Galileo quartet of Churchill, Ulysses, Highland Reel and to a lesser extent Decorated Knight have been racking up some promising late season maiden winners. Those winners should be running in higher quality races as 3yos with every prospect of a few G1 performances to come.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What are people's opinions on the new NH stallion in Coolmore....In Swoop

    German derby winner and beaten a neck by Sottsass in the Arc



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,366 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Usually those German bred Stallions are sound of wind and limb. They usually are teak tough as well. I can see him being very popular



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭tryfix


    So where are things at in the European stallion world?

    For the time being Frankel has stepped into Galileo shoes. His first few crops were full of very good but very often flakey types. Consistency was the last thing that I had come to expect from most of the Frankels. However in the last two seasons he has been producing much more consistent classic types. The sheer volume of his Gp1 winners has ended any debate about his worthiness. If he is blessed with longevity he may eventually overhaul Galileo's individual G1 winners haul. I'd prefer to have a Dubawi over a Frankel anyday.


    If not Dubawi then the biggest threat to Frankel's domination of the Classics is surely going to come from Coolmore. The Churchill's have kept improving with age. His current stamina limitations as a top stallion would be easily overcome by an increase in the quality of mares he covers. Will Coolmore give him the backing to launch him to the top of the stallion tables? Not likely with St Mark's getting the bulk of their best mares.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭tryfix


    [quote]Darley stud fees

    Dalham Hall 

    Stallion2023 fee2022 fee% changeDubawi£350,000£250,000+40Palace Pier£50,0000£55,000-9Too Darn Hot£40,000£45,000-11Pinatubo£35,000£35,000n/aFarhhPrivatePrivaten/aCracksman£17,500£17,500n/aIffraaj£15,000£17,500-14Perfect Power£15,000NEWn/aMasar£14,000£14,000n/aHarry Angel£10,000£12,500-20Territories£10,000£10,000n/aPostponed£5,000£6,000-16

    Kildangan

    Night Of Thunder€100,000€75,000+33Blue Point€35,000€40,000-12.5Teofilo€30,000€30,000n/aGhaiyyath€25,000€25,000n/aSpace Blues€16,000€17,500-8Earthlight€15,000€18,000-16Naval Crown€15,000NEWn/aProfitable€9,000€12,500-28Raven's Pass€7,500€7,500n/a

    Haras du Logis

    Victor Ludorum€15,000€15,000n/aRibchester€7,500€12,500-40Cloth Of Stars€7,000€7,000n/aMore fees news[/quote]


    https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/fees-2023/theres-no-bigger-name-in-the-business-dubawi-goes-to-career-high-350000/587548


    Fee madness?


    Dubawi gone from £250k to £350k. Have a feeling that since he's no spring chicken they are not too anxious to let others use him and if they want to then they can pay through the nose for the privilege of doing so.

    Frankel gone from £200k to £250k. I'm not overfond of his stock's but there's certainly no denying that you're very likely to get one with an engine out of him. At £200k he's a very fair price for the likelihood of getting a decent horse out of him.

    Flightline introduced at $200k and likely to be oversubscribed. They'll sell well at least until we have seen them on the racetrack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭tryfix


    In my last post it sould have read "Frankel gone from £200k to £275k" and seeing as he's actually at £275k you can forget about "At £200k he's a very fair price for the likelihood of getting a decent horse out of him" He's a great stallion but that extra £75k is a big whack of change" ☺️



    [Quote]nother fine season for Frankel has led to the brilliant sire's fee being raised to £275,000 after Juddmonte released its star-packed roster for 2023.

    The son of Galileo, who stood for £200,000 this year, was a dual world champion on the track and has transferred his brilliance to stud, being crowned British and Irish champion sire and European champion sire last term.[/quote]


    Kingman looks fair value as his most expensive crops have just hit the tracks and they look good.

    [Quote]The Juddmonte roster also features Kingman, responsible this year for the unbeaten Fillies' Mile winner Commissioning and Prix de la Foret and British Champions Sprint Stakes winner Kinross, as well as as the unbeaten Gimcrack Stakes winner Noble Style and Group 1-placed juveniles Nostrum and Epictetus.

    His fee has been clipped to £125,000 from £150,000 in 2022. 

    Oasis Dream will continue to stand for £20,000 after another excellent season that saw his European champion two-year-old of 2021 Native Trail land the Irish 2,000 Guineas after a close second in the English equivalent. 

    As Europe’s leading sire of Group 1 speed, he has sired more than 220 stakes horses, including the winners of 30 Group 1 races.[/quote]



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