Egret 3 Candy Cab

Steve X2 · 28-08-2011 8:36pm

Andrew76 wrote: »

Make sure you replace those speakers with proper shielded ones, although I think you said you had that in hand. Good luck with the monitor and welcome to the other "fun" side of cab ownership.

I'm still enjoying that cab, even with its issues. The Xbox 360 looks great on the monitor(once I expand it out a bit to hide the geometry prob).

As for the speakers I've got some official Egret 2 speakers headed my way(couple of weeks as the guy is on hols in Japanland) as well as some decent PC speakers coming from amazon for the PC/Xbox 360 that will eventually live inside the cab.

Andrew76 · 28-08-2011 9:04pm

Cool stuff. I've decided to stick with the cab speakers for pc and 360, will just swap out the 2 phono connections on the amp.

purplec · 28-08-2011 9:38pm

Hey,

I have experience in this but there is no way I would swap it out. from what i remember there is no cage around the neck of the monitor which makes it very easy to neck.

Once necked its game over baby, make sure the monitor he is sending you is a pure flat screen and not one with a curve otherwise you'll need to get the dremmel out and start grinding.

Ask him to have the connections for the power and rgb ready for installation to an egret 3.

just be very careful lifting out the monitor as its very heavy ~50 Kgs.

glad you got a resolution.

Steve X2 · 29-08-2011 12:31am

purplec wrote: »

Hey,

I have experience in this but there is no way I would swap it out. from what i remember there is no cage around the neck of the monitor which makes it very easy to neck.

Once necked its game over baby, make sure the monitor he is sending you is a pure flat screen and not one with a curve otherwise you'll need to get the dremmel out and start grinding.

Ask him to have the connections for the power and rgb ready for installation to an egret 3.

just be very careful lifting out the monitor as its very heavy ~50 Kgs.

glad you got a resolution.

I reckon I could handle installing the monitor with some help but its the setting up of the chassis and all that stuff i have no clue about.

Anyway, been playing this game all even so thought I'd stick up a quick video of a game running on the cab.

The quality is a bit dodgy as I just pointed the camera at the screen and pressed record so the exposure and sound is a bit, ehh, amateur

Marvel Vs Capcom 3 on the Xbox 360:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhkMB3PttEg

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purplec · 29-08-2011 10:31pm

This doesnt look that bad you cant see the stretching in the video?

In terms of setting up the monitor this differs to person to person. On a number of occasions I have had a friend over who said contrast is too high sharpness is too low blah blah blah.

In the end it comes down to the end user. So once its in and you have a picture up just fiddle around with the pots until you are happy.

What are you doing with the current chassis?

Steve X2 · 29-08-2011 11:43pm

purplec wrote: »

This doesnt look that bad you cant see the stretching in the video?

In terms of setting up the monitor this differs to person to person. On a number of occasions I have had a friend over who said contrast is too high sharpness is too low blah blah blah.

In the end it comes down to the end user. So once its in and you have a picture up just fiddle around with the pots until you are happy.

What are you doing with the current chassis?

Ronnie wants the current chassis sent back but I'll be keeping the actual monitor as It would just cost to much to ship it back.

The screen looks ok because I have it expanded way out so you are missing a big part of game screen to hide the really bad geometric distortions on both sides of the screen.

On another note, does anyone know anywhere I can get a couple of xbox 360 pad hacks to use on the cab?

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Andrew76 · 30-08-2011 12:13am

Steve SI wrote: »

On another note, does anyone know anywhere I can get a couple of xbox 360 pad hacks to use on the cab?
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I'm interested in this also. ondafly mentioned he's using Dual Strike PCBs in his cab and they work fine, but it required him to do some soldering. I'm guessing you're looking for that to be already done.

Trying to remember if K.O.Kiki's name was mentioned as doing it? Could be totally wrong there.

ondafly · 30-08-2011 9:46am

Steve SI wrote: »

Marvel Vs Capcom 3 on the Xbox 360:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhkMB3PttEg

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Did you manage to get MVC3 working on Xbox360 ? without black bars top and bottom? I can't play it with bars top and bottom, really ruins the experience. Whereas the SFIV and Super work perfect in 4:3

Andrew76 wrote: »

I'm interested in this also. ondafly mentioned he's using Dual Strike PCBs in his cab and they work fine, but it required him to do some soldering. I'm guessing you're looking for that to be already done.
Trying to remember if K.O.Kiki's name was mentioned as doing it? Could be totally wrong there.

dual strikes are the job alright, really not that hard to do either !

Steve X2 · 30-08-2011 12:41pm

ondafly wrote: »

Did you manage to get MVC3 working on Xbox360 ? without black bars top and bottom? I can't play it with bars top and bottom, really ruins the experience. Whereas the SFIV and Super work perfect in 4:3

dual strikes are the job alright, really not that hard to do either !

No it still has the 16:9 borders on it.
It's a pity but still playable.

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Steve X2 · 31-08-2011 1:37pm

Anyone know if one of these switching power supplies would work in my cab without issue?

http://www.arcadebits.com.au/power/14-power-supply-arcade-15a-wei-ya-110-240v.html

Would be nice not to need the power step down/up/whatever thing.

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ondafly · 31-08-2011 1:40pm

Steve SI wrote: »

Anyone know if one of these switching power supplies would work in my cab without issue?

http://www.arcadebits.com.au/power/14-power-supply-arcade-15a-wei-ya-110-240v.html

Would be nice not to need the power step down/up/whatever thing.

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not sure to be honest? could be the case, like a PC PSU with the switch on the back for changing your voltage. I'd say it might work, but my concern would be the cables are all able to plug into it ? and also if all the pins line up, i.e. 5v goes to the same place on the new PSU

Steve X2 · 31-08-2011 1:42pm

ondafly wrote: »

not sure to be honest? could be just a case, like a PC PSU with the switch on the back for changing your voltage. I'd say it might work, but my concern would be the cables are all able to plug into it ? and also if all the pins line up, i.e. 5v goes to the same place on the new PSU

Yeah, more research needed me thinks.
Would be great if it did the job though.

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ondafly · 31-08-2011 1:46pm

my main concern would be the lighting in the cabinet - wouldn't want to have to go find a replacement bulb in case one was blown.

Andrew76 · 31-08-2011 2:52pm

Steve SI wrote: »

Yeah, more research needed me thinks.
Would be great if it did the job though.

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It would mean snipping off some molex connections from your existing wiring which I think means you lose some JVS ability? Remember reading it somewhere. I have one of those units (actually this one) as a backup incase the stock one blew. They're supposedly robust little fellas, more stable than the stock wei-ya ones apparently.

ondafly · 31-08-2011 3:13pm

@Andrew - does that PSU run a -5V ? and are the connections very different ?

o1s1n · 31-08-2011 3:54pm

They do -5v alright. I remember installing one in my old cab when my crappy atx style one went kablamo.

Andrew76 · 31-08-2011 3:56pm

ondafly wrote: »

@Andrew - does that PSU run a -5V ? and are the connections very different ?

Hey, yep looks like it with the -5v, close up pic below. Wires are screwed to it rather than plugged in etc.

o1s1n · 31-08-2011 3:58pm

Steve SI wrote: »

Anyone know if one of these switching power supplies would work in my cab without issue?

http://www.arcadebits.com.au/power/14-power-supply-arcade-15a-wei-ya-110-240v.html

Would be nice not to need the power step down/up/whatever thing.

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There's a switching power supply in my Atomiswave which is pretty much the exact same cab as yours. Mitch swapped out the stock psu for this one instead. Reckoned the one that was in it was junk.

The cab still required a step down though. So I'm not sure if it's just as simple as dropping in a switching power supply and selecting 220v instead. There could be something else going on in there.

ondafly · 31-08-2011 4:01pm

mmm - i think I'll just go with the negatron to get the -5v, then I at least keep the sound amp that my PSU also has.

Steve X2 · 31-08-2011 4:07pm

ondafly wrote: »

mmm - i think I'll just go with the negatron to get the -5v, then I at least keep the sound amp that my PSU also has.

I can never remember the name of that thing when I need to.

But I always have Transformers in my mind when I try to think of it

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Andrew76 · 31-08-2011 4:11pm

o1s1n wrote: »

There's a switching power supply in my Atomiswave which is pretty much the exact same cab as yours. Mitch swapped out the stock psu for this one instead. Reckoned the one that was in it was junk.

The cab still required a step down though. So I'm not sure if it's just as simple as dropping in a switching power supply and selecting 220v instead. There could be something else going on in there.

That's was I was just going to ask you - was the step-down still needed? I thought the jamma harness powers everything in the cab? Monitor, coin, controls, speakers, marquee light the lot?

ondafly wrote: »

mmm - i think I'll just go with the negatron to get the -5v, then I at least keep the sound amp that my PSU also has.

Yeah I think that solution looks way neater.

ondafly · 31-08-2011 4:12pm

Steve SI wrote: »

I can never remember the name of that thing when I need to.

But I always have Transformers in my mind when I try to think of it

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me too - easy way to remember it

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o1s1n · 31-08-2011 4:27pm

Andrew76 wrote: »

That's was I was just going to ask you - was the step-down still needed? I thought the jamma harness powers everything in the cab? Monitor, coin, controls, speakers, marquee light the lot?

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Yeah there is still a step down needed in my machine even with a switching supply.

I'm not sure where the monitor pulls power from in a candy cab. I know it's different to our old western JAMMA cabs. Haven't really had much of a poke about inside my (broken!) one.

In my old JAMMA machine the monitor completely bypassed the switching PSU..the only thing that was taking power from that was the Jamma board and the speakers. Candies are different altogether.

I would say purplec or one of the other candy masters should know the answer to that one

Andrew76 · 31-08-2011 4:40pm

Yeah I can see the monitor has it's own power cable that goes into an AC 100v socket - I wonder does that have to come from the main psu then. It's confusing trying to follow where all the wires go.

Myrddin · 31-08-2011 5:29pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Yeah there is still a step down needed in my machine even with a switching supply.

I'm not sure where the monitor pulls power from in a candy cab. I know it's different to our old western JAMMA cabs. Haven't really had much of a poke about inside my (broken!) one.

In my old JAMMA machine the monitor completely bypassed the switching PSU..the only thing that was taking power from that was the Jamma board and the speakers. Candies are different altogether.

I would say purplec or one of the other candy masters should know the answer to that one

When will you have it a year, November or thereabouts? On the day, we all need to plug our cabs out & have a moments silence for o1s1ns cab

o1s1n · 31-08-2011 6:43pm

Haha! Yeah, got really unlucky with that cab unfortunately.

It's an odd one, Mitch has tried two new chassis in the thing but neither worked. It's a shame as the one vertical line going across the screen looks really bright and crisp! I'd say it would have been a lovely monitor if it worked properly.

We've progressed from fixing it to just replacing the machine. Said he has some Atomiswaves due in.

I'll see if I can host a beers and have a grand unveiling once its sorted

Steve X2 · 02-09-2011 4:21pm

So Ronnie got back to me on the monitor he wants to send me.

Here's the picture he sent of it. It still seems to have some geomtry issue, what do you's think?

I've attached the full size image he sent me and also embeded a smaller pic.

I've asked him to send me on the full model number of the monitor so I can check it out.

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Steve X2 · 05-09-2011 12:53am

Another update.

Ronnie says I need a new monitor if I want to have the geometry perfect on it.

Is it really this hard to get a monitor/chassis that can draw straight lines :mad:

I wonder how much this is gonna cost me now?

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Mr.Saturn · 05-09-2011 1:04am

My bank account cringes just thinking on how much money you've sunk recently.

Steve X2 · 05-09-2011 1:11am

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

My bank account cringes just thinking on how much money you've sunk recently.

Tell me about it

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Egret 3 Candy Cab

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