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opinion guy

Why are you all obsessing over whether its a 4S or a 5 ?

What difference does it make its just branding/marketing. Surely the important thing is the technology that lies beneath ?

Tipsy McSwagger

Nobody really has a clue what is happening do they?

Dades

opinion guy wrote: »

Why are you all obsessing over whether its a 4S or a 5 ?

What difference does it make its just branding/marketing. Surely the important thing is the technology that lies beneath ?

It's not just about the look.

A "5" might have a bigger screen, be thinner or lighter, or maybe even have a multifunctional home button.

opinion guy

Dades wrote: »

It's not just about the look.

A "5" might have a bigger screen, be thinner or lighter, or maybe even have a multifunctional home button.

Did I mention look ? I'm talking about the number. It could be a 4s and look totally different. Everybody is obsessed about the number. If it was a brick with 5 on it seems like people would go into a mad buying frenzy

omb0wyn5ehpij9

opinion guy wrote: »

Did I mention look ? I'm talking about the number. It could be a 4s and look totally different. Everybody is obsessed about the number. If it was a brick with 5 on it seems like people would go into a mad buying frenzy

A 4s will not look totally different to a 4

seamus

OK, let's everyone cast their votes in the speculation categories;

Launch Date
1. Mid October (US), Late Oct/Early Nov (everywhere else)
2. Late Oct/Early Nov everywhere
3. Mid-October (US), Early November (UK, France, etc), Late Nov/Early Dec (everywhere else)

Form Factors
1. iPhone 4S - improved internals, nothing else significant
2. iPhone 5 - completely changed, new design, significant new features
3. Budget iPhone 4 & iPhone 5 (i.e. both of the above)

Capacity
1. 32 & 64GB
2. 16, 32 & 64GB
3. 8 or 16GB (iP4), 32 & 64GB (iP5)
4. 8, 16, & 32GB

Pricing
1. Largely unchanged - new top spec iP5 at ~€699
2. Increased - At least €50 more for the top spec
3. Dropped - At least €50 less for the top spec
4. Unchanged w/ budget iPhone <= €300 from Apple Store.

Seperate

opinion guy wrote: »

Did I mention look ? I'm talking about the number. It could be a 4s and look totally different. Everybody is obsessed about the number. If it was a brick with 5 on it seems like people would go into a mad buying frenzy

I think the main reason is because if they bring out a 4S, that confirms it will only be minor changes. If the changes are major, they will not just stick an 'S' after the 4, they will increment the model number to 5. Everyone wants major changes, not just a few tweaks.

PCros

Somebody took a screen shot from Vodafone.de and appears that the 4S will be on sale....no sign of 5.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2044801/iPhone-5-release-date-Leaks-shots-details-iPhone-4S.html

The Rook

I'd say it'll be a 4S and not a 5 but it doesn't really matter.

The software beneath it will be pretty amazing with the VPA (Virtual Personal Assistant) alone (besides all the other tweaks and upgrades I think that everyone and their mothers will want one.

Sad Professor

fox007 wrote: »

iPhone 4gs starting at $100 hope it's not true after spending €600

http://www.cultofmac.com/120310/heres-what-you-can-expect-to-pay-for-your-iphone-4s-when-it-launches-on-oct-14-rumors/

Eh, that would be a 100 on contract. You obviously bought yours SIM-free/PAYG.

Dades

opinion guy wrote: »

Did I mention look ? I'm talking about the number. It could be a 4s and look totally different. Everybody is obsessed about the number.

In the runup to the announcement, people are using "4S" to refer to a phone with the same hardware, and "5" to refer to a potential new piece of hardware that may have none or all of the advances I mentioned.

Did you really think people were just talking about a number?

Dades

seamus wrote: »

OK, let's everyone cast their votes in the speculation categories;

Launch Date
3. Mid-October (US), Early November (UK, France, etc), Late Nov/Early Dec (everywhere else)

Upgrade
1. iPhone 4S - improved internals, nothing else significant

Form Factors
2. 16, 32 & 64GB

Pricing
1. Largely unchanged

* There is an element of dampening some potential disappointment by at least being right with predictions.

opinion guy

Dades wrote: »

In the runup to the announcement, people are using "4S" to refer to a phone with the same hardware, and "5" to refer to a potential new piece of hardware that may have none or all of the advances I mentioned.

Did you really think people were just talking about a number?

Frankly yes.

Whatever number they stick on it it WILL be a different phone regardless of look. It WILL do extra stuff. It WILL be faster and quicker.

Guarantee you even if it has the functionality of a Star Trek Tricorder, but looks the same and is called a 4S, people will bitch and moan that its not a 5.

Elessar

In an attempt to get something different I sold my iPhone 4 this summer and bought a Samsung Galaxy S2. Now after about 4 months with it, I want to get back to the iPhone.

It's just not as polished as the iPhone and the Market is a joke. Text input is worse than the iPhone aswell. Everything like backups are disjointed. I will be watching this event closely for the iPhone 5!

Doylers

Dades wrote: »

Launch Date
3. Mid-October (US), Early November (UK, France, etc), Late Nov/Early Dec (everywhere else)

Upgrade
1. iPhone 4S - improved internals, nothing else significant

Form Factors
2. 16, 32 & 64GB

Pricing
1. Largely unchanged - new top spec iP5 at ~€699

* There is an element of dampening some potential disappointment by at least being right with predictions.

By top spec ip5 are you going for a 64Gb model? Im thinking if we see an iph5 the pricepoint will be same as the iphone 4 and the 4 will drop. Like every other launch. 700 for say a 16GB model iph5 would suck

Bigcheeze

seamus wrote: »

Form Factors
1. 32 & 64GB
2. 16, 32 & 64GB
3. 8 or 16GB (iP4), 32 & 64GB (iP5)
4. 8, 16, & 32GB

Form Factor ? Form Factor is the exterior design. i.e. if it looks the same as the 4, there's no change in Form Factor.

seamus

Ah I know, but capacity is generally the headline item rather than how it looks. Ignore your internal pedant

Edit: Ok, I've updated it

Blazer

Definitely a form factor change..Either the front of back of the device will be curved glass.
How do I know? Apple purchased approx 6 glass cutting machines for their suppliers to use earlier in the year.
Also looking at the pictures of the cases coming out they have a curved front/back.

Another thing is while we might only be seeing these now select accessory companies get a look well before...they have to so that cases etc are available at launch
I remember purchasing a screen protector for my ipad last Feb (couldn't wait the 6 weeks for ipad2 as I was going abroad).
The protector was obviously designed for the ipad 2 as it has the hole in the frame for the front facing camera and it actually fitted perfectly onto the ipad 2 as well. So here was a product designed for an ipad v2 that has not yet been released yet managed to get it perfect. So it's pretty obvious that accessory companies get at least 2 months preview of upcoming apple products in order for their accessories to be available at launch.

I manged to get the new kindle spot on last week and I didn't even know they were launching one so I'm going for 2 out of 2 here.
I reckon both phones will be called an iphone 5 and 5s.
Depending on which numbering one of them will be a lower end iphone on a par with the iphone 4 and the other one the high end one with retina display /8meg camera /1gb ram/dual core etc.
Lower end? I'm going with single core/512mb ram/non-retina display/5meg camera/only available in 8/16gb variations.

eeloe

PCros wrote: »

Somebody took a screen shot from Vodafone.de and appears that the 4S will be on sale....no sign of 5.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2044801/iPhone-5-release-date-Leaks-shots-details-iPhone-4S.html

I can't believe that no one has picked up on this, haven't seen a mention of it anywhere online

that picture also has an 8gb iPhone 4 listed for sale aswell....

bye bye 3gs!

Sad Professor

I don't think there's going to be an iPhone 5 today. There's too much evidence of an iPhone 4S in three configurations - 16Gb, 32GB, 64GB. I find it very unlikely that Apple would release a redesigned iPhone 5 alongside this. But that doesn't mean this won't be an impressive update.

Bigcheeze

eeloe wrote: »

I can't believe that no one has picked up on this, haven't seen a mention of it anywhere online

that picture also has an 8gb iPhone 4 listed for sale aswell....

bye bye 3gs!

Plenty have. Conclusion is that it's a mischievous developer at work.

kaizersoze

eeloe wrote: »

I can't believe that no one has picked up on this, haven't seen a mention of it anywhere online

that picture also has an 8gb iPhone 4 listed for sale aswell....

bye bye 3gs!

It's been posted and discussed here and plenty of other sites already.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=74726671&postcount=480

Oafley Jones

eeloe wrote: »

I can't believe that no one has picked up on this, haven't seen a mention of it anywhere online

that picture also has an 8gb iPhone 4 listed for sale aswell....

bye bye 3gs!

It was all over the place yesterday.

Bigcheeze

Sad Professor wrote: »

I don't think there's going to be an iPhone 5 today. There's too much evidence of an iPhone 4S in three configurations - 16Gb, 32GB, 64GB. I find it very unlikely that Apple would release a redesigned iPhone 5 alongside this. But that doesn't mean this won't be an impressive update.

I think there will be a 5 simply because they've taken 15 months to bring it out. Why break their release cycle for a face-lift model.

Also Apple events tend to over-deliver so they would probably be managing expectation of a 5 if there wasn't going to be one.

Finally, it's Cooke's first product launch as CEO and he's launching the most important product in Apple's portfolio. The last thing they want is a damp squib, delivered 3 months late as inevitably people will start talking about Apple losing its magic touch without Jobs.

I'm probably way off

d93c2inhxfok4y

What time Irish time are we expecting an announcement, lads?

Dades

opinion guy wrote: »

Guarantee you even if it has the functionality of a Star Trek Tricorder, but looks the same and is called a 4S, people will bitch and moan that its not a 5.

Are you missing the part where I pointed out some stuff that won't be possible without a form change? I would love a slightly bigger screen - ain't gonna happen without a hardware update. So yeah, I'll be disappointed if it is an "S" - i.e. the same size phone.

Doylers wrote: »

By top spec ip5 are you going for a 64Gb model? Im thinking if we see an iph5 the pricepoint will be same as the iphone 4 and the 4 will drop. Like every other launch. 700 for say a 16GB model iph5 would suck

I guess I phrased it wrong. Don't really expect anything other than a 4S as the new top phone, with the 4 replacing the 3GS.

Oafley Jones

Bigcheeze wrote: »

Also Apple events tend to over-deliver so they would probably be managing expectation of a 5 if there wasn't going to be one)

I'd have to disagree with that. With the odd notable exceptions i've been disappointed far more often.

Gumbo

Ivanna Quick Sociology wrote: »

What time Irish time are we expecting an announcement, lads?

starts at 6pm

opinion guy

Dades wrote: »

Are you missing the part where I pointed out some stuff that won't be possible without a form change? I would love a slightly bigger screen - ain't gonna happen without a hardware update. So yeah, I'll be disappointed if it is an "S" - i.e. the same size phone.

Wasn't there a leaked photo of a bigger screen in a smaller form factor ?

Anyhow if they can do that bigger screen would be good but if they make the whole phone bigger bad idea. Imho the current 4.3" Android phones are far too big for most people.

pfurey101

If its not a 5 then there are going to be an awful lot of people feeling very silly and even more will be heartbroken and Apple will have probably done a little bit of damage to themselves. I blame Jobs.

Boooooooooo Jobs out!

Yawn.