Underrated Cars

BostonB

si_guru wrote: »

Another year or so and buyers of 3-4 year old cars will be hunting out Kia's.. a 2nd or 3rd hand car with years of warranty remaining! IMHO I think resale will be stronger.

I've heard to keep the warranty you have use main dealer servicing and its very expensive. Maybe its reduced lately though.

Pique

BostonB wrote: »

I've heard to keep the warranty you have use main dealer servicing and its very expensive. Maybe its reduced lately though.

If that's true, then I think they are breaking an EU law whereby Manufacturers have to honour warranties so long as it was maintained by a qualified mechanic using approved parts.

I suppose there may be some argument over what exactly 'qualified mechanic' and 'approved parts' are defined as.

WestWing

R.O.R wrote: »

New Volvo S/V60 - why anyone would buy an A4/3 Series over one of them is beyond me.

The new S60 is a great car.

cadaliac

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Fiat Sedici


I'm not sure how they are rated by other folk but I think they are a grand car. They are a Suzuki SX4 with the 1.9 multijet diesel (same engine as the Vectra and Saab 9-3), powerful, handle well and have a nice quality interior. They give a bit of trouble if the DPF filter doesn't regenerate right(due to blocked EGR valves and boost pressure sensors) but apart from that they are reliable.

Hold on there Frankie, What are you comparing this bold statement against?
It might be a powerful car that handles well to you, but I would beg to differ.
I duno, are we loosing sight of the meaning of the thread? Everyone has cars that they like/love but does that make them "underrated".
Just my 2c.

MetzgerMeister

spottyelephant wrote: »

You can add all new citroens to that. Completely re-invented themselves. I'm already eyeing up a DS4 for my next car!

Bye bye RX8???

EPM

einheisserschre wrote: »

Bye bye RX8???

Since I saw you post - what about a Mazda 6 MPS?

4WD, 2.3T, high spec and can be bought pretty reasonably? Also looks like a normal 1.8 with a set of alloys to most people.

Or even the 3 MPS?

si_guru

Jimny... plus you can drift in the rain.

MAZDA MPS... I think the emissions are the issue. The performace speaks for itself.

MetzgerMeister

Not to be kissing anyone's ass here (EPM) but the Octavia vRS is a very underrated car. It's filled with options as standard and looks well especially with the painted calipers.

OT - What does vRS actually stand for?

BostonB

cadaliac wrote: »

...Everyone has cars that they like/love but does that make them "underrated".
...

I think its a car thats not "rated" by a lot of people.

The problem with that is, not everyone values the same things, the same.

MetzgerMeister

si_guru wrote: »

Jimny... plus you can drift in the rain.

MAZDA MPS... I think the emissions are the issue. The performace speaks for itself.

How would emissions be an issue since all 3/6MPS's were registered in Ireland before July 1st 2008?

EDIT: Another underrated car for me is the Renault 5.

si_guru

einheisserschre wrote: »

OT - What does vRS actually stand for?

IIRC

RS = Rally Sport... but FORD apparently have a copyright on that so Skoda added the "v"... for Vrchlabí - the Octavia factory.

si_guru

einheisserschre wrote: »

How would emissions be an issue since all 3/6MPS's were registered in Ireland before July 1st 2008?.

Well spotted I was thinking of my previous life in the UK.. where we would buy a car with £150 road tax and poo poo a car with £180 road tax! Happy times.

EPM

si_guru wrote: »

IIRC

RS = Rally Sport... but FORD apparently have a copyright on that so Skoda added the "v"... for Vrchlabí - the Octavia factory.

There are a few other ideas on that one too. One is Victory Rally Sport, the other is 2 fingers being stuck up at Ford...I'd go with your one or the Victory tag tbh;)

Paarse Krokodil

The 405 is a daycent car

the OP's pic is exactly the last car i'd have expected to see in this thread. I first thought it was a 405, looks exactly like my one

cjmcork

shocked that no one has mentioned the Dacia Sandero

goodstuff!

Corsa 1.3 turbo diesel. Great little car.

si_guru

Paarse Krokodil wrote: »

The 405 is a daycent car

http://youtu.be/RS73N7vHRHQ

VolvoMan

EPM wrote: »

Since I saw you post - what about a Mazda 6 MPS?

4WD, 2.3T, high spec and can be bought pretty reasonably? Also looks like a normal 1.8 with a set of alloys to most people.

Absolutely.

I never really gave them any attention until recently but now love them.

Tea 1000

VolvoMan wrote: »

Absolutely.

I never really gave them any attention until recently but now love them.

I don't think the MPS is under-rated though. Just more kind of forgotten. People don't think of buying one. Maybe it is under rated a bit alright. I think it's as good a saloon as you can get for around 10 grand, but I know Matt Sims would completely disagree. He's the only one though!

savagecabbages

I'm yet to find one 'joe public' who doesn't hate the Fiat Coupe:rolleyes:

MetzgerMeister

Tea 1000 wrote: »

I don't think the MPS is under-rated though. Just more kind of forgotten. People don't think of buying one. Maybe it is under rated a bit alright. I think it's as good a saloon as you can get for around 10 grand, but I know Matt Sims would completely disagree. He's the only one though!

I did

166man

Very surprised to hear no mention of the Ford Mondeo ST220 petrol and diesel. Also the Alfa 156 2.4 jtd is quite underrated too...

Monty.

The Mark 3 Cavalier / Vectra

I owned one of these and loved it.

Fantastic driver, great road holding, easy to work on, reliable.

An off duty traffic cop once told me they hated chasing them because they held the road so well they could loose most cop cars on the back roads.

Minister Boyce

When I saw Volvoman's original post of the Peaugot i made me search for the hero inside myself for some reason..

The 306 was also a savage car, perhaps its more to do with the diesel engines that were in them.

The 306 Van was a popular choice for Vets in my neck of the woods from memory

VolvoMan

Minister Boyce wrote: »

When I saw Volvoman's original post of the Peaugot i made me search for the hero inside myself for some reason..

That was the 406 my friend;):

Stainless_Steel

A lot of sh1t boxes are now being over-rated by this thread...

pajo1981

+1 406

Matt Simis

166man wrote: »

Very surprised to hear no mention of the Ford Mondeo ST220 petrol and diesel. Also the Alfa 156 2.4 jtd is quite underrated too...

I dunno, the STxxx moniker is a manufacturer "plus" rating, I think they are rated where they should be.
And really who underrates a 5pot turbo-charged 2.4litre Alfa? The thing is like under 1400kg too!

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

A lot of sh1t boxes are now being over-rated by this thread...

Well it does seem like a list of cars people like for little or no reason..

fryup

Absurdum wrote: »

Mitsubishi Colt - bulletproof reliability, handled well, cheap to run, not bad looking, doesn't quite have the boy racer stigma that Civics had

the newer shape colt is a cracking little car as well, often overlooked in the small car market

volvoman480

BostonB wrote: »

I've heard to keep the warranty you have use main dealer servicing and its very expensive. Maybe its reduced lately though.

Not true, as long as original parts are used, the correct service intervals maintained and the book stamped then any garage can do the servicing and you keep your warranty.. As for the price, the last service on my Carens came in at 100 euros, good for main dealer work. I go there because it's as close to me as the nearest indy guy who charges roughly the same rates. The only thing I'm gutted about is the 7 year warranty came in the year after I bought mine so I'm stuck with the paltry 5 year one insted!!;) She was tested yesterday and sailed through with a year left on the warranty, how many other makes can make the same claim???

pcardin

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

A lot of sh1t boxes are now being over-rated by this thread...

If you are looking for VW they are mostly mentioned in Overrated Cars thread and Dreamer of the Year.

L-M

pcardin wrote: »

If you are looking for VW they are mostly mentioned in Overrated Cars thread and Dreamer of the Year.

What's wrong with Vw's? I've 240,000 k on mine and I know plenty of people with the same if not more mileage on them without a bit of bother.

Brian?

Limerick man wrote: »

What's wrong with Vw's? I've 240,000 k on mine and I know plenty of people with the same if not more mileage on them without a bit of bother.

People like to slag of VW's because they're popular I think .

Mr Benevolent

savagecabbages wrote: »

I'm yet to find one 'joe public' who doesn't hate the Fiat Coupe:rolleyes:

I love them. Great looks, good engines and good handling. Apparently.

L-M

briankeating wrote: »

People like to slag of VW's because they're popular I think .

That's exactly the way it's gone, and there's no other way about it. Sad really :rolleyes: People call them dreamers asking for mad money for them, but they make it, because they're popular (I'm not saying they're not dreamers).

pcardin

Sadly but its all the way round. People who drive VW really like to slag anyone driving anything bar VW. :pac:

L-M

pcardin wrote: »

Sadly but its all the way round. People who drive VW really like to slag anyone driving anything bar VW. :pac:

I know alot of Toyota and Ford fans that are ten times worse than any Vw fan to be fair.

EPM

pcardin wrote: »

Sadly but its all the way round. People who drive VW really like to slag anyone driving anything bar VW. :pac:

There's a condition that affects people on both sides. It's quite contagious too. I hope they find a cure for fanboyism before it's too late:D

L-M

LIGHTNING wrote: »

And let us not mention those crazy Rover fans :pac:

I dare not! For fear of being attacked :P

Matt Simis

Limerick man wrote: »

I dare not! For fear of being attacked :P

With a pipe and and thrown slippers?

pcardin

Matt Simis wrote: »

With a pipe and and thrown slippers?

with a failed head gaskets. :pac:

Dazza Mc kenna

Renault Vel Satis, Citroen C6 C5, Lancia Thema and Alfa Mito

L-M

Those Renaults are crap!

si_guru

Limerick man wrote: »

Those Renaults are crap!

+1.

endless EGR problems.

SV

Limerick man wrote: »

Those Renaults are crap!

Whatever about performance or reliability, next to the fiat multipla they are one of the ugliest looking things I've ever seen.

VolvoMan

Limerick man wrote: »

People call them dreamers asking for mad money for them, but they make it, because they're popular (I'm not saying they're not dreamers).

Have you ever heard of the tale of the king's clothes?

There is no doubt that most VW's are overrated though, and overpriced. Their marketing in the 80's and 90's was excellent and that's why people still fall head over heels for them today. There are countless cars that deserve as much respect as the likes of the Mk2 but don't get it.

vectra

VolvoMan wrote: »

Have you ever heard of the tale of the king's clothes?

There is no doubt that most VW's are overrated though,

Hence the Skoda brand,
Underrated
realistically priced..:D



(Must get the coke and crisps ready)

L-M

I haven't, some of the skangered Audi's are overpriced, but most Vw seem to hold value alot better then other marques.

Ie. I saw a 05 Passat sell for 5.5k and a 05 Mg ZT for 2.5k. It's not the fact the Passat is overpriced, the Zt in my eyes is underpriced.

EPM

vectra wrote: »

Hence the Skoda brand,
Underrated
realistically priced..:D



(Must get the coke and crisps ready)

I'm cringing here.

cadaliac

vectra wrote: »

Hence the Skoda brand,
Underrated
realistically priced..:D



(Must get the coke and crisps ready)

Are you ok there Vectra? Do you need to go outside and hug your car? Or do you have it in bed with you?:D