Maths and Theoretical Physics Course Thread TR031 TR035

larkin1993

Evan93 wrote: »

Yeah I'd hate to be Hilary.

I can't remember if you used to be funny or I've just started listening to you :-\
But yeah I think they got rid of the standard model course and the double pdes is now a single, bad time to be a 4th year tp I'd imagine.

Has anyone ever heard of people being allowed to split their semester credits 35-25? Theres loads I want to do in Michaelmas.

wantacookie

larkin1993 wrote: »

But yeah I think they got rid of the standard model course and the double pdes is now a single, bad time to be a 4th year tp I'd imagine.

The pdes course is there specifically for the tps so that they get a chance to do it. They used to do a learn long course every year but I think they decided against it. That was the case two years ago as well. It's not a bad course.

Has anyone ever heard of people being allowed to split their semester credits 35-25? Theres loads I want to do in Michaelmas.

I did that this year but I was fourth year maths so I just made sure to put my project credits after christmas and take more before christmas. I would go ahead and they will stop you if they aren't happy with it. They won't process the choices for a while yet.

Bottleopener

Just saw the SF pure maths results. More fails than passes, wow.

Evan93

Bottleopener wrote: »

Just saw the SF pure maths results. More fails than passes, wow.

I'd imagine there was a bogey exam or something. Anyone care to hazard a guess?

It's also irritating that the breakdown is in the hands of the mytcd website. The idea of the website is good but I'd also like to be able to have my breakdown sometime this year and not nearly have a heart attack everytime i want to check my timetable.

Aoibheann

Evan93 wrote: »

I'd imagine there was a bogey exam or something. Anyone care to hazard a guess?

It's also irritating that the breakdown is in the hands of the mytcd website. The idea of the website is good but I'd also like to be able to have my breakdown sometime this year and not nearly have a heart attack everytime i want to check my timetable.

If it's anything like how it was for JS/SS Maths/TP students, you should have your breakdown via an automated email from the maths department within the next few days.

wantacookie

Aoibheann wrote: »

If it's anything like how it was for JS/SS Maths/TP students, you should have your breakdown via an automated email from the maths department within the next few days.

Yes but it is very likely you will just start having a heart attack everytime you check your email instead - that's exactly what we were like :P The most stressful few days ever waiting for SS breakdown. My poor phone couldn't cope with all the refreshing.

wantacookie

I think the breakdown might be available on my.tcd.ie for the third years - including your CA if Aoibheann is to be believed

It can be found under my student record -> my academic record. The website appears to have been updated to accommodate for results so I would expect to see the rest of the years soon. The fourth year ones don't appear to be up yet.

my.tcd.ie takes soooo long to do anything, and its terribly incompatible with most browers :mad:

larkin1993

Anyone know why pdes is a choice for 4th years but not 3rd years?

EuropeanSon

larkin1993 wrote: »

Anyone know why pdes is a choice for 4th years but not 3rd years?

I'd guess that's an error. Can't see any reason for that to be the case.

KarlD93

Bottleopener wrote: »

Just saw the SF pure maths results. More fails than passes, wow.

Yeah, that was pretty surprising. I had one of my exams checked though and there was an actually an error in the marking. Just shows they also make mistakes :rolleyes:

wantacookie

larkin1993 wrote: »

Anyone know why pdes is a choice for 4th years but not 3rd years?

It's normally an option for 3rd and 4th year maths but only 4th year TPs can do it, not third year!

It should be available for 3rd and 4th year - I would email Helen in the office about it, or Karen!

Tweej

I've been taking a look around, anyone know which maths modules TPs take for 2nd year?

Tears in Rain

Tweej wrote: »

I've been taking a look around, anyone know which maths modules TPs take for 2nd year?

http://www.maths.tcd.ie/undergraduate/mod-theoretical-physics/sf.php

countbezukov

Any maths students here do erasmus, specifically to France? I know its rare enough so if anyone has any info that would be great!

sponsoredwalk

Samson + second year mechanics =

"Andre Geim, a graduate and Nobel prize winner stated "The pressure to work and to study was so intense that it was not a rare thing for people to break and leave, and some of them ended up with everything from schizophrenia to depression to suicide.""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Institute_of_Physics_and_Technology

EuropeanSon

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

Samson + second year mechanics =

Schols is going to be murder this year if Samson sets a new exam.

2nd year maths guys: do stats if you fancy getting schols this year, I'd say.

Tweej

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Schols is going to be murder this year if Samson sets a new exam.

2nd year maths guys: do stats if you fancy getting schols this year, I'd say.

And the TPs should just cry

larkin1993

I'm going into JS maths. I'm really interested in trying to do CS3061 Artificial Intelligence I in the C.S. department and/or 3B2 Fluid Mechanics in the mechanical engineering department as modules outside the maths department. The issue is I can't see any of the notes to see whats involved and if I'd be able for it. I was kind of hoping someone on here might have taken one of them or know someone who might have access to the notes?

Fringe

Samson is great! I preferred him over Frolov for QFT. I'm not sure how he'll handle mechanics but it should be good.

steve2929

Hi lad's

I'm a sixth year student and hope to study maths in TCD next year if I can get a good leaving cert this year. I just have a couple of questions and this looks like a good place to ask, hoping someone can help.

Looking at the maths syllabus for the course the first 2 years look very good. But in third/fourth year there seems to be a lack of pure maths courses to keep you going for 2 full years. So if you were entering third year now say, would there be different pure maths courses on offer next year when you get to your final year. It's just that I'm studying physics for my leaving cert and I find the subject a bit of a bore. I'd really rather avoid doing physics orientated courses in the last 2 years like quantum mechanics and relativity if they can be avoided.

Also after having read a few popular maths books in the last couple of years I've become very fond of the idea of studying number theory. The maths course has a course in number theory in second year but that seems to be it. Would it be fair to say the school is a bit light in this area. That would be a disappointment but I could live with it.

Finally what are peoples opinions on the computing courses offered to maths students. My vague plans would be to study maths in college but when it comes to the world of work afterwards I wouldn't mind working in the area of computing. That said I'd probably need to go on to do a masters or something after the degree to qualify to do that. Also although I'd like to work in computing after college I don't think I want to spend too much of third and fourth year studying computer courses if there are interesting maths courses on offer. I'd rather leave that until later. So I guess what I'm asking is will the computer courses in the first two years give me a good foundation for the serious study of computing later on.

Thanks for reading and I hope someone can help answer.

Steve.

sganyfx

Could someone please give me a general overview of the mathematics course and its difficulty? I just received an offer to study it this morning and I am unsure if I want to leave BESS to switch. Going for a career in Investment Banking/Funds/Trading.

rjt

sganyfx wrote: »

Could someone please give me a general overview of the mathematics course and its difficulty? I just received an offer to study it this morning and I am unsure if I want to leave BESS to switch. Going for a career in Investment Banking/Funds/Trading.

So I did maths and not BESS, and amn't working in the financial sector, so take this with a piece of salt. But for trading or quant type work, I'd say that although maths would probably be the more difficult route, if you work hard it will stand to you better in the long run.

Pros:

1) Trading companies really like maths/TP graduates. I've a friend who was in BESS and he has said in the past that he felt doors to trading companies like SIG are closed to him.

2) Maths is hard, and doing hard things will equip you better analytically than an easier, less technical route.

3) You have a lot of options, and can learn programming and stats, both of which are very employable.

Cons:

1) Most of what you do will seem irrelevant. This frustrates a lot of people.

2) It can be hard.

3) Because of the amount of choice offered, a lot of the courses aren't really quality checked. Some of the options are very poorly structured or taught (maybe this is a university wide problem, I'm not sure).

sganyfx

rjt wrote: »

So I did maths and not BESS, and amn't working in the financial sector, so take this with a piece of salt. But for trading or quant type work, I'd say that although maths would probably be the more difficult route, if you work hard it will stand to you better in the long run.

Pros:

1) Trading companies really like maths/TP graduates. I've a friend who was in BESS and he has said in the past that he felt doors to trading companies like SIG are closed to him.

2) Maths is hard, and doing hard things will equip you better analytically than an easier, less technical route.

3) You have a lot of options, and can learn programming and stats, both of which are very employable.

Cons:

1) Most of what you do will seem irrelevant. This frustrates a lot of people.

2) It can be hard.

3) Because of the amount of choice offered, a lot of the courses aren't really quality checked. Some of the options are very poorly structured or taught (maybe this is a university wide problem, I'm not sure).

Thank you very much. The irrelevancy does not bother me that much BESS has a lot more of it than mathematics for my tastes. The only thing I would be scared of is the the 3rd con you mentioned. I have no problems killing myself over work to get it solved. That is my main fear of BESS is having doors closed.

rjt

sganyfx wrote: »

Thank you very much. The irrelevancy does not bother me that much BESS has a lot more of it than mathematics for my tastes. The only thing I would be scared of is the the 3rd con you mentioned. I have no problems killing myself over work to get it solved. That is my main fear of BESS is having doors closed.

If you pick carefully, there are enough interesting and rewarding courses. Especially if you keep up with stats and programming, then in third and fourth year you'll have a ton of cool options.

Anyway, keep asking around to get a variety of opinions. I'm fairly biased!

sganyfx

rjt wrote: »

If you pick carefully, there are enough interesting and rewarding courses. Especially if you keep up with stats and programming, then in third and fourth year you'll have a ton of cool options.

Anyway, keep asking around to get a variety of opinions. I'm fairly biased!

I'm pretty sure I have made up my mind now The changing is going to be awkward and I have no idea when I would get the timetable and lectures start on Monday

BeanbagBallbag

The timetable for JF is here http://www.maths.tcd.ie/undergraduate/timetable/Michaelmas_ttjf.php if you want to just go to the lectures, the lecturers won't be taking names or counting people.

sganyfx

BeanbagBallbag wrote: »

The timetable for JF is here http://www.maths.tcd.ie/undergraduate/timetable/Michaelmas_ttjf.php if you want to just go to the lectures, the lecturers won't be taking names or counting people.

Thank you Just need to contact the university and get the course changed.

EuropeanSon

rjt wrote: »

So I did maths and not BESS, and amn't working in the financial sector, so take this with a piece of salt. But for trading or quant type work, I'd say that although maths would probably be the more difficult route, if you work hard it will stand to you better in the long run.

Pros:

1) Trading companies really like maths/TP graduates. I've a friend who was in BESS and he has said in the past that he felt doors to trading companies like SIG are closed to him.

2) Maths is hard, and doing hard things will equip you better analytically than an easier, less technical route.

3) You have a lot of options, and can learn programming and stats, both of which are very employable.

Cons:

1) Most of what you do will seem irrelevant. This frustrates a lot of people.

2) It can be hard.

3) Because of the amount of choice offered, a lot of the courses aren't really quality checked. Some of the options are very poorly structured or taught (maybe this is a university wide problem, I'm not sure).

Worked at SIG last summer, and study Mathematics. All of the above is pretty much dead on.

countbezukov

If you don't want to or can't do all the maths physics modules, sophister choices are really poor this year....

Bottleopener

countbezukov wrote: »

If you don't want to or can't do all the maths physics modules, sophister choices are really poor this year....

Yup. Slowly becoming a TP department apparently >_>